Boston Bombing -- Who Did It?

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Hayabusa Rider

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And all you have is name-calling. Probably because you can't actually refute the facts.

Huh.

It seems you are the equivalent of those who want to go and shoot Muslims because they all hate us and want to take over the world. You make a straw man out of people you don't like, but hell don't let that stand in the way of "facts" that you make up. We have some extreme right who I think are pretty sad cases. Congratulation, you've been promoted to the ranks of spiteful and mean spirited folk. It's entirely possible that some anti government group is responsible and that will be on those who did it, like it's on the Muslims who attacked on 9/11, but you like those who pronounced all Muslims as terrorists will do the same.
 

Matt1970

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Ever read this board whenever guns are brought up? We have people claiming with all sincerity that like, freely allowing machine guns to be bought and sold won't result in massacres because "they're only useful for suppressing fire" And so anything short of machine gun freedom is government tyranny.

They probably feared that the Newtown families might actually push through gun legislation through both houses, so this bombing is to stop it.

And right-wingers definitely feel persecuted. Always.

Furthermore, the demographic which participates in the Boston marathon are the urban elite that the survivalists loathe the most.

Is this you?

 

monovillage

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Do we really know that it was terrorism? It could be another case of work place violence by an angry Muslim like the Ft. Hood shootings.
 

desura

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Let us know when you post some facts.

1. Boston marathon dedicated to Newtown
2. Newtown families near finish line.
3. bomb set off near finish line.
4. Gun bill going through congress.
5. bombing will disrupt focus on gun bill, lessening chance of passage
6. location of event makes it unlikely to be Islamic.
7. history of right wing attacks on sporting events using bombs with shrapnel (96 olympics)
8. no one has claimed responsibility. Typically, Islamic terrorists claim responsibility. Typically, right wing terrorists do not claim responsibility

Just some facts.
 

zsdersw

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Whatever it was, we can count on a deluge of knee-jerk proposals from lawmakers that will do more harm than good.
 

Remobz

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I say its probably sudden domestic born Islamic terrorists.

One can never really trust a domestic born Muslim. It takes very little to piss them off before they go Jihad on your butt.
 

Matt1970

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1. Boston marathon dedicated to Newtown
2. Newtown families near finish line.
3. bomb set off near finish line.
4. Gun bill going through congress.
5. bombing will disrupt focus on gun bill, lessening chance of passage
6. location of event makes it unlikely to be Islamic.
7. history of right wing attacks on sporting events using bombs with shrapnel (96 olympics)
8. no one has claimed responsibility. Typically, Islamic terrorists claim responsibility. Typically, right wing terrorists do not claim responsibility

Just some facts.

You are taking stupidity to a whole new level.
 

desura

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Huh.

It seems you are the equivalent of those who want to go and shoot Muslims because they all hate us and want to take over the world. You make a straw man out of people you don't like, but hell don't let that stand in the way of "facts" that you make up. We have some extreme right who I think are pretty sad cases. Congratulation, you've been promoted to the ranks of spiteful and mean spirited folk. It's entirely possible that some anti government group is responsible and that will be on those who did it, like it's on the Muslims who attacked on 9/11, but you like those who pronounced all Muslims as terrorists will do the same.

I don't know how you came to this conclusion. You seem to be angry, operating on emotion and unable to address any facts set forth.
 

Matt1970

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care to substantively address the arguments set forth? Are you able to?

Sure.

1. Boston marathon dedicated to Newtown SO?
2. Newtown families near finish line. SO?
3. bomb set off near finish line. SO?
4. Gun bill going through congress. SO?
5. bombing will disrupt focus on gun bill, lessening chance of passage Congress is still doing their job
6. location of event makes it unlikely to be Islamic. If so that leaves countless other groups
7. history of right wing attacks on sporting events using bombs with shrapnel (96 olympics)Right Wingers hate sporting events?
8. no one has claimed responsibility. Typically, Islamic terrorists claim responsibility. Typically, right wing terrorists do not claim responsibility Hasn't even been 24 hours.
 

Zodiark1593

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The death toll is quite low, suggesting a bomb that lacked shrapnel. A pipe bomb with nails used would produce a much higher death toll. So if this was a terrorism plot, the suspect in question lacks knowledge, or at least, wanted to reduce the death toll for some unknown reason, or possibly even had other motives such as assassination or experimentation. I do believe this was done by a lone wolf though regardless of motive.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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1. Boston marathon dedicated to Newtown
2. Newtown families near finish line.
3. bomb set off near finish line.
4. Gun bill going through congress.
5. bombing will disrupt focus on gun bill, lessening chance of passage
6. location of event makes it unlikely to be Islamic.
7. history of right wing attacks on sporting events using bombs with shrapnel (96 olympics)
8. no one has claimed responsibility. Typically, Islamic terrorists claim responsibility. Typically, right wing terrorists do not claim responsibility

Just some facts.

I think it's sewer rats.

1) Rats live in Boston.
2) Rats feed off scraps.
3) Rats blow up people at the end of the race.
4) Rats gather food dropped.
5) Rats disrupt social order, making extermination less likely.

Yep, rats.

Stringing together "facts" doesn't make them relevant. Here's a fact. The police have a Saudi national captive. That's the suspect so far and that's more than you have. Is he guilty? I have no frigging clue, but at least I know I don't know.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I don't know how you came to this conclusion. You seem to be angry, operating on emotion and unable to address any facts set forth.

I'm mocking you and your so called analysis of the situation. You are the one who settled on guilt in advance of evidence. Are you a rat perhaps?
 

desura

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The death toll is quite low, suggesting a bomb that lacked shrapnel. A pipe bomb with nails used would produce a much higher death toll. So if this was a terrorism plot, the suspect in question lacks knowledge, or at least, wanted to reduce the death toll for some unknown reason, or possibly even had other motives such as assassination or experimentation. I do believe this was done by a lone wolf though regardless of motive.

I doubt he wanted to minimize casualties.

Probably is a lone-wolf, judging by the simplicity of the bombs. It was a pressure cooker timed in a backpack.

Eh, also, Islamic terrorists tend to be...most complicated in their attacks. Like, Richard Reid's shoe bomb required a lot of ingenuity and an organization behind it. This one sounds more home-brew.
 
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I don't know how you came to this conclusion. You seem to be angry, operating on emotion and unable to address any facts set forth.

We already know that you are an idiot. Do you at least have the courage to say it to their faces that they are terrorists? No you don't because you're a coward lives in his mom's basement.
 

WelshBloke

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We already know that you are an idiot. Do you at least have the courage to say it to their faces that they are terrorists? No you don't because you're a coward lives in his mom's basement.

Do you have the courage to say that to his face?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The death toll is quite low, suggesting a bomb that lacked shrapnel. A pipe bomb with nails used would produce a much higher death toll. So if this was a terrorism plot, the suspect in question lacks knowledge, or at least, wanted to reduce the death toll for some unknown reason, or possibly even had other motives such as assassination or experimentation. I do believe this was done by a lone wolf though regardless of motive.

Report I saw said ball bearings were used. Doesn't seem like a well organized attempt though. Goes back to what I posted in an OT thread about "when will we have warp drive". I stated that we may not be around long enough to create one or the equivalent if possible because a smaller number of people are able to create more havoc as time moves on. Anyway, no matter who did this I hope we catch them.
 

Remobz

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I will give some personal experiences about my dealings with Muslims. This is just from past experiences and observations.


No matter what country I have met Muslims they ALWAYS seem to put Islam before the Western Society they live in. You cannot imagine the negative things they say about Western people although they themselves are enjoying the Western "dream" and freedom.

For example, I have cousins who are Roman Catholic but born and raised in England. One of them in the past joined the British army while they were fighting the IRA. He eventually ended up doing a stint in Northern Ireland. He never once questioned his duty and the fact that he could kill a fellow Roman Catholic. Religion did not come first over duty to Country.

Now a Muslim has a high probability in my opinion to put Islam before any Country or army. One never knows when they can go Jihad on their own troops.

They love the Western freedom and choices but yet criticize the crap out the Western society they live in at the same time because it is not halal.
 

Matt1970

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I doubt he wanted to minimize casualties.

Probably is a lone-wolf, judging by the simplicity of the bombs. It was a pressure cooker timed in a backpack.

Eh, also, Islamic terrorists tend to be...most complicated in their attacks. Like, Richard Reid's shoe bomb required a lot of ingenuity and an organization behind it. This one sounds more home-brew.

Oh ya, it takes a well organzined group to pack explosives in a shoe and board a plane. It was so sophisticated he had to light it with a match.
 
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I will give some personal experiences about my dealings with Muslims. This is just from past experiences and observations.


No matter what country I have met Muslims they ALWAYS seem to put Islam before the Western Society they live in. You cannot imagine the negative things they say about Western people although they themselves are enjoying the Western "dream" and freedom.

For example, I have cousins who are Roman Catholic but born and raised in England. One of them in the past joined the British army while they were fighting the IRA. He eventually ended up doing a stint in Northern Ireland. He never once questioned his duty and the fact that he could kill a fellow Roman Catholic. Religion did not come first over duty to Country.

Now a Muslim has a high probability in my opinion to put Islam before any Country or army. One never knows when they can go Jihad on their own troops.

They love the Western freedom and choices but yet criticize the crap out the Western society they live in at the same time because it is not halal.

Unfortunately there are RADICALS who do believe in this nonsense. And be prepared to get attacked for what you just posted.
 

desura

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We already know that you are an idiot. Do you at least have the courage to say it to their faces that they are terrorists? No you don't because you're a coward lives in his mom's basement.

More name-calling. Of course it was a terroristic event. I'm simply saying that based on the facts that I see, Islamic terrorism seems unlikely, and a right-winger motivated by impending gun legislation seems likely.
 
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