WelshBloke
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- Jan 12, 2005
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Well he is an idiot. Would I say it to his face? What do you think? ()
I was just mocking Incorruptibles new favourite argument.
Well he is an idiot. Would I say it to his face? What do you think? ()
I will give some personal experiences about my dealings with Muslims. This is just from past experiences and observations.
No matter what country I have met Muslims they ALWAYS seem to put Islam before the Western Society they live in. You cannot imagine the negative things they say about Western people although they themselves are enjoying the Western "dream" and freedom.
For example, I have cousins who are Roman Catholic but born and raised in England. One of them in the past joined the British army while they were fighting the IRA. He eventually ended up doing a stint in Northern Ireland. He never once questioned his duty and the fact that he could kill a fellow Roman Catholic. Religion did not come first over duty to Country.
Now a Muslim has a high probability in my opinion to put Islam before any Country or army. One never knows when they can go Jihad on their own troops.
They love the Western freedom and choices but yet criticize the crap out the Western society they live in at the same time because it is not halal.
If laughed a lot at this. Is that wrong?Do we really know that it was terrorism? It could be another case of work place violence by an angry Muslim like the Ft. Hood shootings.
I was just mocking Incorruptibles new favourite argument.
And he makes it look soooo easy!You are taking stupidity to a whole new level.
More name-calling. Of course it was a terroristic event. I'm simply saying that based on the facts that I see, Islamic terrorism seems unlikely, and a right-winger motivated by impending gun legislation seems likely.
Some tea party loons is my bet.
It was freakin aliens, no doubt about it!!!
This is a bigoted post. The Muslims I've known enjoyed the American way of life, would never attack this country.
Plus, the facts of the case IMO point away from a Muslim extremist--
1. 2nd tier city
2. no claiming of responsibility
3. relatively simple bomb
4. target that does not fit in the M.O. of previous Islamist attacks.
4a. for example, Ft. Hood was against US Army soldiers who would likely deploy to Iraq. WTC was against the US economy, which is related to the US involvment in MidEast. Muslim converts who have attacked their fellow soldiers have done so because they don't want the soldiers to kill Muslims.
4b. marathon not really related at all to anything middle east.
--and--
5. marathon related to gun control. Newtown was the theme of the final mile of the race. Newtown families were present at the finish line VIP area.
Some tea party loons is my bet.
And this is why you are wrong. You only believe that right wingers could do this and not the left. Apparently you don't remember bill ayers? No you don't because you're a pathetic hack and a piece of shit.
You want it to be right wingers which makes you even more pathetic. Using the deaths of innocent people to push your political agenda.
Rats.
It was freakin aliens, no doubt about it!!!
This is a bigoted post. The Muslims I've known enjoyed the American way of life, would never attack this country.
Plus, the facts of the case IMO point away from a Muslim extremist--
1. 2nd tier city
2. no claiming of responsibility
3. relatively simple bomb
4. target that does not fit in the M.O. of previous Islamist attacks.
4a. for example, Ft. Hood was against US Army soldiers who would likely deploy to Iraq. WTC was against the US economy, which is related to the US involvment in MidEast. Muslim converts who have attacked their fellow soldiers have done so because they don't want the soldiers to kill Muslims.
4b. marathon not really related at all to anything middle east.
--and--
5. marathon related to gun control. Newtown was the theme of the final mile of the race. Newtown families were present at the finish line VIP area.
Inspire magazine has serialised the writings of Abu Musab Al-Suri, calling on American Muslims to launch lone wolf attacks against places where large numbers of civilians gather, such as sporting events.
In an issue last year, he wrote: The type of attack, which repels states and topples governments, is mass slaughter of the population. This is done by targeting human crowds in order to inflict maximum human losses.
This is very easy since there are numerous such targets such as crowded sports arenas, annual social events, large international exhibitions, crowded marketplaces, sky-scrapers, crowded buildings etc."
Unfortunately there are RADICALS who do believe in this nonsense. And be prepared to get attacked for what you just posted.
You ignored this:
Bill Ayers isn't active anymore.
I can't really remember the last time a leftist group bombed/committed murder in the USA. The cause for the Weather Underground was the Vietnam war. When the war ended, the leftists lost their cause and dispersed.
Meanwhile, I know in 1996 Eric Rudolph bombed the Olympics, then a lesbian bar, because he was angry about abortion. I know that Tim McVeigh bombed the federal building in OKC in 1994, with right wing motivations.
To state the obvious: right wing violence is more prevalent, destructive, and recent than left-wing violence.
Left wing violence had its heyday in the 1970's, but it ended long ago.
I'm totally willing to blame left-wing violence if the facts line up. but the facts don't line up.
I read it, but so far it hasn't happened.
Oh ya, because the Tea Party had had so many instances of violence in the past.
This is a bigoted post. The Muslims I've known enjoyed the American way of life, would never attack this country.
Plus, the facts of the case IMO point away from a Muslim extremist--
1. 2nd tier city
2. no claiming of responsibility
3. relatively simple bomb
4. target that does not fit in the M.O. of previous Islamist attacks.
4a. for example, Ft. Hood was against US Army soldiers who would likely deploy to Iraq. WTC was against the US economy, which is related to the US involvment in MidEast. Muslim converts who have attacked their fellow soldiers have done so because they don't want the soldiers to kill Muslims.
4b. marathon not really related at all to anything middle east.
--and--
5. marathon related to gun control. Newtown was the theme of the final mile of the race. Newtown families were present at the finish line VIP area.
Just my opinion. I don't care if you like it or not.
These whack jobs have a history of spewing anti-government and anti-tax rhetoric so the whole tax day/Boston/tea party angle makes some sense.
Doesn't seem to be any particular Islamic group stepping up and claiming responsibility... and they usually do.
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Just my opinion. I don't care if you like it or not.
These whack jobs have a history of spewing anti-government and anti-tax rhetoric so the whole tax day/Boston/tea party angle makes some sense.
Doesn't seem to be any particular Islamic group stepping up and claiming responsibility... and they usually do.
No, my bet is on a Timothy McVeigh type with ties to right wing organizations like the tea party nutters.
Ft. Hood wasn't terrorism by a Muslim extremist...it was "workplace violence". Apparently you didn't get the memo.This is a bigoted post. The Muslims I've known enjoyed the American way of life, would never attack this country.
Plus, the facts of the case IMO point away from a Muslim extremist--
1. 2nd tier city
2. no claiming of responsibility
3. relatively simple bomb
4. target that does not fit in the M.O. of previous Islamist attacks.
4a. for example, Ft. Hood was against US Army soldiers who would likely deploy to Iraq. WTC was against the US economy, which is related to the US involvment in MidEast. Muslim converts who have attacked their fellow soldiers have done so because they don't want the soldiers to kill Muslims.
4b. marathon not really related at all to anything middle east.
--and--
5. marathon related to gun control. Newtown was the theme of the final mile of the race. Newtown families were present at the finish line VIP area.
Despite extensive evidence that Hasan was in communication with al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki prior to the attack, the military has denied the victims a Purple Heart and is treating the incident as "workplace violence" instead of "combat related" or terrorism.
You ignored this:
Inspire is an English language online magazine reported to be published by the organization SITE Institute. The use of the magazine is to increase the availability of their message without challenges to their value system. The magazine is one of the many ways AQAP uses the Internet to reach its audience. The magazine is also a political warfare tool targeting the American and other Western governments, with the intent of inspiring homegrown terrorism.
The Search for International Terrorist Entities (SITE) Intelligence Group is an organization that tracks the online activity of terrorist organizations.[1] The SITE Institute was founded in 2002 by Rita Katz and Josh Devon, who had left the Investigative Project (a private Islamist-terrorist tracking group).[2]