Boston Bombing -- Who Did It?

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spidey07

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Yeah, there's not special about a pressure cooker bomb. It's essentially a big pipe bomb.

Look to the government to want to ban black powder now.
 

Zodiark1593

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Report I saw said ball bearings were used. Doesn't seem like a well organized attempt though. Goes back to what I posted in an OT thread about "when will we have warp drive". I stated that we may not be around long enough to create one or the equivalent if possible because a smaller number of people are able to create more havoc as time moves on. Anyway, no matter who did this I hope we catch them.
Hmm, the attempt for a higher death toll is what bothers me now (the ball bearings) as there is a strong possibility the bomber will try again, with a deadlier bomb this time around. The unorganized lot can be rather unpredictable.

I do wonder how the ball bearings were organized in the bomb itself? Can tell us a little bit more about the suspect.
 

cubby1223

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I will admit that this is probably true but I also won't rule out other possibilities like domestic terrorists (Tim McVeigh types) at this point either.

As an investigator, you cannot rule out anything until it can be definitively ruled out - but you also have to start your search in the direction of greatest probability.

If the attack was done with guns I would begin looking for the mentally disturbed anti-social white American male. Blaming Islam or anything middle-east related would not even cross my mind in that situation.
 

JulesMaximus

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Fact - Muslim terrorists routinely use a pressure cooker bombs all over the world and including US

Fact - these bombs were pressure cooker bombs

No speculation there, just facts and common sense that many are ignoring in an attempt to appear "unbiased", but it really shows how much bias you have when you ignore fact.

Those two facts don't mean that it was Muslim terrorists who carried out this act though.

Christ, even the President said, “We still do not know who did this or why, and people shouldn’t jump to conclusions before we have all the facts,” Obama said Monday. “But make no mistake: We will get to the bottom of this,” and whoever is responsible “will feel the full weight of justice.”

You may be right, it may have been Muslim terrorists. But let's face it, you don't know that anymore than I know who did it.

You're the one frothing at the mouth to blame Muslims.
 

surfsatwerk

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Those two facts don't mean that it was Muslim terrorists who carried out this act though.

Christ, even the President said, “We still do not know who did this or why, and people shouldn’t jump to conclusions before we have all the facts,” Obama said Monday. “But make no mistake: We will get to the bottom of this,” and whoever is responsible “will feel the full weight of justice.”

You may be right, it may have been Muslim terrorists. But let's face it, you don't know that anymore than I know who did it.

You're the one frothing at the mouth to blame Muslims.

Rick Perry said no such thing... :sneaky:
 

desura

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I simply have a hard time figuring out the Muslim terrorist's motivation. Like, if an attack happened on 9/11, yeah, it's 99% likely Muslim. Or on the anniversary or some jihadi dude dying in a drone attack, or if the target is somehow connected to state power.

But the Boston marathon has no good reason to be attacked by a Muslim extremist when there are other more "deserving" targets and more relevant dates. I can think of good reasons why the militia types would want to attack, however.
 

spidey07

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Hmm, the attempt for a higher death toll is what bothers me now (the ball bearings) as there is a strong possibility the bomber will try again, with a deadlier bomb this time around. The unorganized lot can be rather unpredictable.

I do wonder how the ball bearings were organized in the bomb itself? Can tell us a little bit more about the suspect.

There's nothing special about ball bearings or other shrapnel. It's how you make a pipe bomb. The blast itself isn't enough to do a ton of concussive damage so shrapnel must be used to inflict a lot of damage.
 

spidey07

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Those two facts don't mean that it was Muslim terrorists who carried out this act though.

Christ, even the President said, “We still do not know who did this or why, and people shouldn’t jump to conclusions before we have all the facts,” Obama said Monday. “But make no mistake: We will get to the bottom of this,” and whoever is responsible “will feel the full weight of justice.”

You may be right, it may have been Muslim terrorists. But let's face it, you don't know that anymore than I know who did it.

You're the one frothing at the mouth to blame Muslims.

I'm not saying it definitively was.

I'm saying all signs point to muslim terrorist as the same kind of bomb has been used extensively by muslim terrorists all over the world and in the US.

Make sense?

You have your hunch it's some tea party or right wing guy, based on zero indicators of such. I'm basing my hunch and most likely scenario based on the facts.
 

Abwx

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This is true, someone could have found this information via an internet search and decided they could potentially confuse investigators/get away with the bombing by using a method that has been used in this past by Muslim terrorists.

False flag.?..

Who would benefit.?.....
 

spidey07

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I simply have a hard time figuring out the Muslim terrorist's motivation. Like, if an attack happened on 9/11, yeah, it's 99% likely Muslim. Or on the anniversary or some jihadi dude dying in a drone attack, or if the target is somehow connected to state power.

But the Boston marathon has no good reason to be attacked by a Muslim extremist when there are other more "deserving" targets and more relevant dates. I can think of good reasons why the militia types would want to attack, however.

It was a large gathering of people where everybody had a bag of some sort. It would be the perfect opportunity for a muslim terrorist as they typically target large public groups of innocents.
 

desura

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Other Islamic attacks have been...bigger. Madrid train bombings killed 191 people. If Reid had detonated the bomb, that's an airliner full of people. If Faisal had succeeded, over a dozen dead. London train bomb killed 52.

They were coordinated with multiple persons.

Death toll could have been much higher with a similar level of coordination.
 
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SheHateMe

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WASHINGTON -- The explosives used in the deadly Boston Marathon bombing were contained in 6-liter pressure cookers and hidden in black duffel bags on the ground, a person briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

One of the explosives contained shards of metal and ball bearings, and another contained nails, the person said.

Source: HuffPo

I'm pretty sure this was one of our own....

But it was also said that

These types of pressure cooker explosives have been used in Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan, according to a July 2010 joint FBI and Homeland Security intelligence report. One of the three devices used in the May 2010 Times Square attempted bombing was a pressure cooker, the intelligence report said.

The Pakistani Taliban, which claimed responsibility for the 2010 attempt in Times Square, has denied any role in the Boston Marathon attack.

So we'll see. I think they are just trying to make a connection to foreign terrorism here but I would not be surprised if more evidence led to domestic terrorism.
 
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Abwx

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I'm basing my hunch and most likely scenario based on the facts.

No , it s based on your racism...

The facts say nothing , it s like saying that if a guy
is killed in the US with a Kalashnikov , then it s either
an afghan....or a russian?..
 

JulesMaximus

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I'm not saying it definitively was.

I'm saying all signs point to muslim terrorist as the same kind of bomb has been used extensively by muslim terrorists all over the world and in the US.

Make sense?

You have your hunch it's some tea party or right wing guy, based on zero indicators of such. I'm basing my hunch and most likely scenario based on the facts.

Well, we'll see in the coming weeks and months I guess.

I'll let you in on a little secret too. It doesn't matter at all who you or I think did it or who is right and who is wrong.
 

spidey07

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No , it s based on your racism...

The facts say nothing , it s like saying that if a guy
is killed in the US with a Kalashnikov , then it s either
an afghan....or a russian?..

FACT - pressure cooker bombs have been used all over the world including the US by muslim terrorists.

FACT - these two bombs were pressure cooker bombs.

It doesn't take a genius to see the most likely suspects given the facts.
 

cubby1223

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Christ, even the President said, “We still do not know who did this or why, and people shouldn’t jump to conclusions before we have all the facts,” Obama said Monday. “But make no mistake: We will get to the bottom of this,” and whoever is responsible “will feel the full weight of justice.”

Not until Kerry states which youtube video enraged the bomber will I feel comfortable that the feds have the situation under control.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Looks like it might of been a thug that went into deep cover.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=9065415

Authorities say they are searching for a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt, possibly foreign national from the accent of the individual. Five minutes before the first explosion, officials said this person attempted to gain entry to a restricted area. When turned away, he broke eye contact and pulled his sweatshirt hood over his head and left, officials said.
 

desura

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I'm not saying it definitively was.

I'm saying all signs point to muslim terrorist as the same kind of bomb has been used extensively by muslim terrorists all over the world and in the US.

Make sense?

You have your hunch it's some tea party or right wing guy, based on zero indicators of such. I'm basing my hunch and most likely scenario based on the facts.

Muslim terrorists tend to manage much larger death tolls, however. They tend to really study the stuff through their network.
 

Abwx

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FACT - pressure cooker bombs have been used all over the world including the US by muslim terrorists.

FACT - these two bombs were pressure cooker bombs.

It doesn't take a genius to see the most likely suspects given the facts.

One would then use such devices if he wanted to make
a false flag op.

Since you are jewish i can as well say that it s a mossad
manipulation , can you find some of your "facts" to prove
the contrary.?...

Not much , quite the opposite.
 

Murloc

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if I had to guess I'd say domestic because at least there can be some reasons to say that (they've already been laid out, plus the fact that Boston is a left-leaning city if I'm not mistaken). Breivik would apply this kind of reasoning anyway.
There is no specific reason why islamists would bomb that, usually they do creative stuff such as underwear bomb etc. and trying to board a plane or something.

Still, it could be any of the two. Maybe home-grown islamists are different, maybe they've changed up the way they do thing since lately they failed.

One of the two anyway, other options sound outlandish to me.
 
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