Boston Bombing -- Who Did It?

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Lithium381

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ban trash cans
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FACT - pressure cooker bombs have been used all over the world including the US by muslim terrorists.

FACT - these two bombs were pressure cooker bombs.

It doesn't take a genius to see the most likely suspects given the facts.

I have a simpler way of reaching the same theory: Islamic terrorists have been responsible for the overwhelming majority of bombings of this nature over the past 20 years, all over the world. I am open to facts proving me wrong - I could also easily imagine this being a domestic terrorist or lone wacko - but when we're talking about using an IED to kill civilians, it seems entirely rational to think first of Islamic terrorists.

I don't think the pressure cooker being used is particularly probative, since I'm sure the James Holmeses of the world are quite capable of researching how to make an effective IED, and the pressure cooker is a proven formula. Also, the use of a pressure cooker has not, from what I've seen, been officially confirmed - it has only been attributed to an unnamed source.
 
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HomerJS

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ban trash cans
ban ball bearings
ban black powder
ban marathons
etc... if only we let the government take care of us, such things are avoidable!!!

"The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a bomb is a good guy with a bomb"

If only more people on the streets had a bomb this bombing would have been stopped!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I have a simpler way of reaching the same theory: Islamic terrorists have been responsible for the overwhelming majority of bombings of this nature over the past 20 years, all over the world. I am open to facts proving me wrong - I could also easily imagine this being a domestic terrorist or lone wacko - but when we're talking about using an IED to kill civilians, it seems entirely rational to think first of Islamic terrorists.

I don't think the pressure cooker being used is particularly probative, since I'm sure the James Holmeses of the world are quite capable of researching how to make an effective IED, and the pressure cooker is a proven formula. Also, the use of a pressure cooker has not, from what I've seen, been officially confirmed - it has only been attributed to an unnamed source.

Making a bomb is Google 101, so profiling by device isn't a good idea. What's the alternative? Gas? That's much harder to get right. Shooting? Sure, if you want to get caught. It could be a Muslim extremist. Could be a domestic anarchist group. Might be the Lone Nut. Might be anything.

What I would hate to see is what I saw in Boston after 9/11. I worked with a Pakistani in his mid thirties and came over with his family when he was 10. One day this guy came up to him and said that Bush was right and that his kind needed to die. I tossed his ass out, and never was I so embarrassed to be an American. Bush never said that, but it didn't matter. He was obviously "one of them" and he needed to die for what "his kind" did. I don't want to see a witch hunt no matter who is responsible, and yes I know you aren't advocating anything of the sort.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Going with lone nut, leaning towards anarchist conspiracy theorist if there's any political motivation, in the same ballpark as the Unabomber.
 

Mani

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I will give some personal experiences about my dealings with Muslims. This is just from past experiences and observations.


No matter what country I have met Muslims they ALWAYS seem to put Islam before the Western Society they live in. You cannot imagine the negative things they say about Western people although they themselves are enjoying the Western "dream" and freedom.

For example, I have cousins who are Roman Catholic but born and raised in England. One of them in the past joined the British army while they were fighting the IRA. He eventually ended up doing a stint in Northern Ireland. He never once questioned his duty and the fact that he could kill a fellow Roman Catholic. Religion did not come first over duty to Country.

Now a Muslim has a high probability in my opinion to put Islam before any Country or army. One never knows when they can go Jihad on their own troops.

They love the Western freedom and choices but yet criticize the crap out the Western society they live in at the same time because it is not halal.

Really? So of the thousands of Muslims serving in the US military, how many have decided to put their religion ahead of their country and plunge a knife in the back of one of their fellow soldiers? How are they any different than your Roman Catholic cousin? I'm not even muslim, but what complete and total bullshit.
 

airdata

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It was a large gathering of people where everybody had a bag of some sort. It would be the perfect opportunity for a muslim terrorist as they typically target large public groups of innocents.

Probability of it being a muslim is low.

You're simply airing out your racism in another thread as you do anywhere you post.
 

spidey07

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Probability of it being a muslim is low.

You're simply airing out your racism in another thread as you do anywhere you post.

Why would you say that when all signs point to muslim terrorist?

Probability of muslim terrorist is VERY, VERY high given the facts as we know them.
 

airdata

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Going with lone nut, leaning towards anarchist conspiracy theorist if there's any political motivation, in the same ballpark as the Unabomber.

My bet is on a right wing conspiracy theorist who thinks obama was taking too much taxes.
 

airdata

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And then as many of us know the '93 wtc bombing was done w\ an FBI informant tightly in the mix and they either allowed it to happen or outright let it happen.

This similar behavior can also be seen if you look up any terror arrests over the last 10 years. Most of which are FBI stings where they find some dope on the internet and give the unsuspecting guy a fake bomb they can arrest him for planting somewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2vpcABWJiY "'93 WTC was FBI Job" "informant agreed to supply fake explosives but was over-ruled by fbi handlers"
 
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bshole

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I am worried that we don't have a suspect yet. We may not ever know. I may never get a chance to say I told you so!

At this point in time we usually have names...
 

airdata

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I am worried that we don't have a suspect yet. We may not ever know. I may never get a chance to say I told you so!

At this point in time we usually have names...

It's all good. I heard they found a saudi passport laying on the road.
 

cubby1223

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I can just picture people in Boston reading this thread shocked and saddened that this bomb has turned into a spectator sport.
 
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Anyone who has been here for any length of time knows full well that WhipperSnapper believes with all his heart that this was done by right-wing extremists. He masked his true thoughts with a bullshit poll because he knew he'd be called out on the carpet if he just created a thread blaming the people who in his eyes are responsible for everything bad in the universe.

That's only partially correct. My first knee-jerk response when I heard about the bombing on the radio was "Muslim terrorists" (either foreign or domestic), but in retrospect I think it might also be some sort of right-wing militia group trying to make a statement about taxes. FYI, I voted for "Domestic-born Islamicists".
 

raildogg

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What is the point of this meaningless speculation? Just wasting time and coming up with wild scenarios that have no reality.
 
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I see you put two right wing groups in there but no left wing. Typical. Maybe Bill Ayers back in business?

It wasn't intentional. If I could rewrite the poll I would add an option for left-wing eco-nuts. Omitting left-wing parties isn't something I did intentionally with thought. It just honestly hadn't occurred to me at all. When was the last time that a left-wing group committed a terrorist attack intended to kill large numbers of people?
 

spidey07

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It wasn't intentional. If I could rewrite the poll I would add an option for left-wing eco-nuts. Omitting left-wing parties isn't something I did intentionally with thought. It just honestly hadn't occurred to me at all. When was the last time that a left-wing group committed a terrorist attack intended to kill large numbers of people?

A little over 24 hours.


Most of the left wing groups' terror plots were stopped recently before they could be carried out. Don't forget Dooley just a few months ago.
 

desura

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A little over 24 hours.


Most of the left wing groups' terror plots were stopped recently before they could be carried out. Don't forget Dooley just a few months ago.

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No, most left-wing violence ends up being entrapment scenarios where the federal informant is the one egging them on.

For some reason, this doesn't happen with right-wing terrorists, who also tend to be more successful in killing people.

which is why people naturally assume that right wing terrorism is a greater threat than left wing terrorism. Because it is, factually.
 

ericlp

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I think it was one of the "GOOD" christains... you know the ones.

Some whacked out religious right that is still pissed Obama won and he's thinking all his guns are getting confiscated soon. Sounds like a few nut jobs here...
 

blankslate

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I'm wondering if it might be someone whose son/daughter or niece/nephew was collateral damage in a drone strike.

It's an out there theory but if the guy was captured and revealed that as his motivation that'd be an awkward moment for the Administration.
 

KlokWyze

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I'm wondering if it might be someone whose son/daughter or niece/nephew was collateral damage in a drone strike.

It's an out there theory but if the guy was captured and revealed that as his motivation that'd be an awkward moment for the Administration.

How so? Your assertion doesn't make much sense. Blowing up random innocent people will never hold any traction w/ any majority anywhere. No awkward found.
 
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