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fskimospy

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I'm not claiming anything, where do you work fskimospy? Can we see your credentials?

You sure can't! I don't care if you show us your credentials or not but you've pretty clearly implied that you had some medical expertise. If you're saying that you have no medical expertise then that's good information for people reading your posts.
 

Kazukian

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Here's the problem. Fski isn't throwing the FUD right now, you are.

How the hell is that FUD? Point me to a single reference that suggests a Foley catheter makes one iota of difference in her ability to be POTUS or a fully functional member of society for that matter.

You're the one with a problem with it.

It's uneducated attitudes like yours that's the reason we don't have her medical records, ageism BS.
 
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Jaskalas

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Trump has since reversed his position on that and has actually advocated for policies that would remove insurance from millions of people.

It's true, he had to win the nomination. You can say the same for Hillary but let's be clear that the choice of who supports what on Healthcare is not so defined or crystal clear as some would believe. Moreover, the Donald has such a history of leaning left that people openly speculate. If he actually made it in, you cannot be sure he wouldn't bat for your team on the issues he believes in.

Trump told CNN's Larry King: "If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. ... I believe in universal healthcare."

And in his 2000 book "The America We Deserve," Trump made a strong pitch for universal health care. As to how the country might achieve universal coverage, Trump focused on a Canadian-style, single-payer plan.

So, Trump has supported single payer in the past.

I submit that many Republicans hate him because he is not one of them.
 

fskimospy

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It's true, he had to win the nomination. You can say the same for Hillary but let's be clear that the choice of who supports what on Healthcare is not so defined or crystal clear as some would believe. Moreover, the Donald has such a history of leaning left that people openly speculate. If he actually made it in, you cannot be sure he wouldn't bat for your team on the issues he believes in.

Oh it's possible that once in office he would once again throw all his promises overboard and go back to supporting universal health care. The problem is that he's a pathological liar so I don't know how you could trust anything he's said at any time. Was he lying in 2000? Is he lying now? Was he lying at both times? All of them could be true.
 

brycejones

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I'm not going to post jack, nor have I claimed to be a physician.
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Look some one has been taking "Not Me" posting lessons. Until you provide some sort of medical credentials you appear to just be concern trolling.

You actually called out a medical professional here as being "behind the times" and questioned that person's competency. You should be able to back that up with some training of your own. Its time to put up or shut up.
 
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How the hell is that FUD? Point me to a single reference that suggests a Foley catheter makes one iota of difference in her ability to be POTUS or a fully functional member of society for that matter.

You're the one with a problem with it.
Then why speculate about them other than to spread fear, doubt and uncertainty. Why post like you have medical experience when you don't?
It's uneducated attitudes like yours that's the reason we don't have her medical records, ageism BS.
I fail to understand what point you're making
 

Jaskalas

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Oh it's possible that once in office he would once again throw all his promises overboard and go back to supporting universal health care. The problem is that he's a pathological liar so I don't know how you could trust anything he's said at any time. Was he lying in 2000? Is he lying now? Was he lying at both times? All of them could be true.
Pathological Liar is a job requirement to be a politician, especially President.
Or are you ignoring Clinton's qualities? She fits right in.
 

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How the hell is that FUD? Point me to a single reference that suggests a Foley catheter makes one iota of difference in her ability to be POTUS or a fully functional member of society for that matter.

You're the one with a problem with it.

It's uneducated attitudes like yours that's the reason we don't have her medical records, ageism BS.

I'm pretty sure we were the ones pointing out the BS you were pushing on her medical records, which do actually provide a decent amount of information; that she does seem to be fine and her records seem to be fairly unremarkable.

Oh, and if you really want, catheters have a big increased risk for infection, even when done properly. A common source of delerium in older adults is a UTI. However, the whole thing is BS and my guess is she is wearing pants because she wants to and not some crackpot theory about her health.
 

fskimospy

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Pathological Liar is a job requirement to be a politician, especially President.
Or are you ignoring Clinton's qualities? She fits right in.

Actually I don't agree with that at all. Being a liar is a job requirement to be a politician but what separates pathological liars from other people is that they lie as a matter of course even when it confers no advantage.

Think about all the random small but obvious lies Trump has been caught making. The debates, for example. He claimed the NFL sent him a letter complaining about them. It was instantly obvious that someone would ask to see the letter and so he was immediately caught in a lie. Why bother doing something that stupid? The most obvious answer is he can't control himself. He can't stop even if he wanted to.
 

TheGardener

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From the article I posted just above your post.

Interesting article. I agree more with Dr Arthur more than Dr Drew.

Dr. Arthur says: “These new blood thinners like the medication Dr. Drew was talking about aren’t typically used for this type of a clot [a brain clot] — they’re used for the leg clots. And, yes, Coumadin has been around for a long time and it’s an old drug. It was used and it’s still used. There are some newer medications, as he mentioned, that could be used for those types of leg blood clots, but Coumadin is certainly still used. It’s kind of a personal preference as to what people are comfortable with.
 

fskimospy

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It's all they understand. And it is all Clinton understands. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Consider voting Trump.

Wait, you're saying if someone DOESN'T like personal attacks they should vote Trump?

Wut. Have you paid any attention to his campaign at all?
 

TheGardener

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Wait, you're saying if someone DOESN'T like personal attacks they should vote Trump?

Wut. Have you paid any attention to his campaign at all?

Trump has apologized. When will Clinton apologize? After she is sworn in? Like everything else, after...
 

shortylickens

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I dont like the idea that you can say whatever you want then apologize and everything is OK. If Trump believes that, or if Trump supporters believe that, then I really dont want him as a president.
Is he gonna call Putin a little bitch then say "just kidding" after the war has already started?
 

Kazukian

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Since angry Meghan took her toys and went home, I'll share why Hillary is wearing pantsuits aside from the painfully obvious catheter and leg bag, (BTW, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea why she needs a foley and a leg bag, there are about a dozen common reasons, I have no idea why she needs the rig, it could be temporary) the first line defense for DVT prophylaxis is those ugly ass support hose, matter of fact they're so important, you're not supposed to prescribe a blood thinner unless you patient is compliant with support hose, the big ones that go all the way to your crotch, they're not exactly stylish, and you'll never see Hillary even showing ankles, unless she wears long socks over the support hose, and they're not exactly stylish either, they're a bitch to put on and keep on, she probably has help, I don't know any older folks that can put them on without help.

Also, as a PSA, if you're taking a long road trip or a long flight, you should wear some, I've seen 20 year olds with DVT's after a long flight or road trip.

 
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sportage

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I dont like the idea that you can say whatever you want then apologize and everything is OK. If Trump believes that, or if Trump supporters believe that, then I really dont want him as a president.
Is he gonna call Putin a little bitch then say "just kidding" after the war has already started?

I especially loved where Trump said all democrats should be hung by the neck until dead.
Then Donald later changed it saying just hung by the neck is probably good enough.
Oh That Donald... The Eddie Haskell of republican politics.

And I'd still rather have a comatose Hillary Clinton as president than a delusional psychopath like Donald Trump as president. Comatose is far better than psychopath.
When you talk about Donald Trump vs anyone else, you really have to take all things into persecutive.
When it comes to qualifications, Donald sets a pretty low bar.
I'd definitely go with the comatose Clinton, hands down.
 

TheGardener

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Rudy Giuliani comments on Hillary Clinton's health.

Rudy Giuliani: I think Hillary is tired. I do. When I saw Hillary at the press conference sitting down with a Hillary supporting police chief pretending she is pro-police. It is one of the most pathetic press conferences I’ve ever seen. Well first of all she looks sick. Number two she looks completely uncomfortable saying anything pro-police.

An observer at a parade that Clinton "walked" in.

Sick Hillary walked *ONE* block in a parade. This is how she looked. She is not well. #WheresHillary pic.twitter.com/yqVJcQfkh0

— Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich) August 20, 2016
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/rudy-giuliani-think-hillary-looks-tired-looks-sick-video/

and a so-called "journalist" at the NY Times has called for Google to fix search results for Clinton's health. If her health is fine, why resort to the equivalent of electronic book burning?

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...st-calls-google-suppress-hillary-health-info/
 
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