Bought a boat today!

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The two happiest days of your life:

1) The day you buy a boat.

2) The day you sell it.

Congrats on your first happiest day.

As a former boat owner, I can tell you this is the honest truth.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: Naustica
pics? Prices are crazy low right now and you can steal a deal. My friend bought a bank repo boat at an auction for cheaper than what he paid for the motor on his old boat! He's getting it serviced right now so we can go tuna fishing next month.

Pics! They've started sending us some photos as they fabricate the boat:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3985.JPG
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3981.JPG

No cuddy?
Where are you gonna sleep/make food/ go to the bathroom etc

Living on the boat. Here's another pic so you can get an idea of the size of the boat (welder in picture for scale).

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3977.JPG

Right,
you need things like bathroom and kitchen to live on a boat...
In any case 21" is pretty tiny for 4 people... a used 31ft fiberglass cruiser would've been a much better choice

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The two happiest days of your life:

1) The day you buy a boat.

2) The day you sell it.

Congrats on your first happiest day.

One of my golfing buddies sold his boat last summer. He was SOOOOOOOOOOO happy, I wasn't. Owning a boat sucks, having a friend that owns a boat rules.

lol... so true.

Speaking of which has anyone seen that heat shrink wrap thing they do for boats for storage? So cool...

 

[BoomerD]

Haven't read all the replies, so I don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but...

The technical description of a boat is:

"A hole in the water into which you constantly pour large sums of cash."

Been there, done that, still have the invoices.

 

[dudeman007]

THIS BOAT IS REALLLLLLLLL

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: Naustica
pics? Prices are crazy low right now and you can steal a deal. My friend bought a bank repo boat at an auction for cheaper than what he paid for the motor on his old boat! He's getting it serviced right now so we can go tuna fishing next month.

Pics! They've started sending us some photos as they fabricate the boat:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3985.JPG
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3981.JPG

No cuddy?
Where are you gonna sleep/make food/ go to the bathroom etc

Living on the boat. Here's another pic so you can get an idea of the size of the boat (welder in picture for scale).

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3977.JPG

Right,
you need things like bathroom and kitchen to live on a boat...
In any case 21" is pretty tiny for 4 people... a used 31ft fiberglass cruiser would've been a much better choice

22 feet. Yes, it's small for living on for a summer, but we plan on using this boat for decades, in rivers, lakes, and on the ocean, so we had to make allowances for that. It's small enough to navigate most rivers, but we can also take it twenty miles offshore and go tuna fishing. And we'll have one of those camping toilets and a rail-mount gas grill, so we're set for bath/kitchen. We had them divide the livewell at the back of the boat into two parts so that we can use one half of it for washing dishes.

EDIT:
Oh, and as for the choice of materials, fiberglass just wouldn't hold up, especially when you consider that we will be using the boat a LOT and plan on using it for decades. You wouldn't think of beaching a fiberglass boat, but aluminum will tolerate it just fine. Aluminum won't craze or crack when it flexes, unlike fiberglass, and if you get a hole in it, you can weld a patch that will be invisible when it's done. The Pacific Northwest (Oregon/Washington/Alaska/BC), where we'll be using the boat, has a rocky, harsh coastline.

 

[skyking]

Thanks for the updates That is what i had pictured, it will be fun.

 

[KDOG]

Bryophyte: Don't listen to the naysayers' and trolls. If you like it, and the missus and the kiddies like it, thats' all that matters. I recently purchased a 20' hybrid camper (30' opened up) that I will be using alot and I love it..... besides its not like there isn't aftermarket mods/accessories you can get for it to help with liveability. Have fun dude, you only live once. I, too, have been thinking of getting a boat since I live practically at the beach. Maybe after I get my pilots licence, get/build a plane, and build a teardrop camper as a smaller alternative to the "family camper".

I'm sure you're already smart enought to bring stuff for your kids to do.....

 

[dud]

OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: dud
OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

My sentiment exactly,
I've boated all over the U.S. (Kentucky, Key Largo, Lake Erie etc.) and reading this is just sounds like one of those "oooh this will be so much fun" plans without any research. 22 foot boat is entirely too small to do any offshore travel and living on a boat without a proper cuddy and shelter is simply naive. I mean where are you gonna use your caomping toilet if it's pouring out or if you're out on the water?


20mph gusts were enough to rock the last 40 footer charter boat I was on (I did get a 25lb bass though, now mounted inmy parents' office )... I can imagine what it would do to a 22 footer.

 

[spacelord]

I have a 30 foot cruiser and can't imagine trying to live on something smaller.
Life is short, boats are cool.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: dud
OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

I have to agree looking at the design of that boat -- I don't see how any one person, let alone 4 people, could comfortably live on it. My father's boat is 21', center console, and 4 people fishing for a couple of hours is a chore. I mean, she admitted the boat doesn't even have a head! Crazy.

However, for your second comment about taking it offshore, I think you're exaggerating the risk, at least for day trips with an experienced captain. I've been on several trips on similar boats out off Vancouver Island fishing for salmon and halibut. The seas can be rough, but with an experienced captain, a boat of that size can be as safe as a boat can be (no boat is "safe," really) in typical conditions. That said -- unless Bryophyte's husband is an experienced captain, I share your concern for their particular situation.

 

[oiprocs]

Nobody would buy an oldsmoboat.

Those things are so out of style.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: dud
OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

I have to agree looking at the design of that boat -- I don't see how any one person, let alone 4 people, could comfortably live on it. My father's boat is 21', center console, and 4 people fishing for a couple of hours is a chore. I mean, she admitted the boat doesn't even have a head! Crazy.

However, for your second comment about taking it offshore, I think you're exaggerating the risk, at least for day trips with an experienced captain. I've been on several trips on similar boats out off Vancouver Island fishing for salmon and halibut. The seas can be rough, but with an experienced captain, a boat of that size can be as safe as a boat can be (no boat is "safe," really) in typical conditions. That said -- unless Bryophyte's husband is an experienced captain, I share your concern for their particular situation.

How big was that boat with the missing NFL players?

MotionMan

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: dud
OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

I have to agree looking at the design of that boat -- I don't see how any one person, let alone 4 people, could comfortably live on it. My father's boat is 21', center console, and 4 people fishing for a couple of hours is a chore. I mean, she admitted the boat doesn't even have a head! Crazy.

However, for your second comment about taking it offshore, I think you're exaggerating the risk, at least for day trips with an experienced captain. I've been on several trips on similar boats out off Vancouver Island fishing for salmon and halibut. The seas can be rough, but with an experienced captain, a boat of that size can be as safe as a boat can be (no boat is "safe," really) in typical conditions. That said -- unless Bryophyte's husband is an experienced captain, I share your concern for their particular situation.

How big was that boat with the missing NFL players?

MotionMan

21 foot center console

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: loup garou

However, for your second comment about taking it offshore, I think you're exaggerating the risk, at least for day trips with an experienced captain. I've been on several trips on similar boats out off Vancouver Island fishing for salmon and halibut. The seas can be rough, but with an experienced captain, a boat of that size can be as safe as a boat can be (no boat is "safe," really) in typical conditions. That said -- unless Bryophyte's husband is an experienced captain, I share your concern for their particular situation.

How big was that boat with the missing NFL players?

MotionMan

21 foot center console

So, how is OPs boat comparable to that, generally speaking (other than 1' difference)?

MotionMan (certified landlubber)

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: dud
OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

I have to agree looking at the design of that boat -- I don't see how any one person, let alone 4 people, could comfortably live on it. My father's boat is 21', center console, and 4 people fishing for a couple of hours is a chore. I mean, she admitted the boat doesn't even have a head! Crazy.

However, for your second comment about taking it offshore, I think you're exaggerating the risk, at least for day trips with an experienced captain. I've been on several trips on similar boats out off Vancouver Island fishing for salmon and halibut. The seas can be rough, but with an experienced captain, a boat of that size can be as safe as a boat can be (no boat is "safe," really) in typical conditions. That said -- unless Bryophyte's husband is an experienced captain, I share your concern for their particular situation.

How big was that boat with the missing NFL players?

MotionMan

21 foot center console

...which they took out under a small craft advisory. Not a smart move. The point is, you're never 100% safe on a boat, but there are precautions that experienced folks take to minimize risk. I'm not sure you guys realize just how common a boat that size is for nearshore and "offshore" fishing.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: dud
OP,

Just one question ... do you have any prior boating experience? That's an awfully small boat to be living aboard for such a long time. Additionally, would you feel safe taking suc "off shore"? I ask because I used to work for a boat manufacturer that builds boats up to about $1M (50') and we would never recommend such a thing. You're going to take four people (that you care about?) on a 22' boat off the Northwest and Alaska? Here in Florida we just lost 3 out of 4 boaters (2 were NFL players). Their boat was about the same size and was capsized/swamped in much smaller swells than you will encounter off the Pacific Northwest and Alaska.

I shake my head ...

I have to agree looking at the design of that boat -- I don't see how any one person, let alone 4 people, could comfortably live on it. My father's boat is 21', center console, and 4 people fishing for a couple of hours is a chore. I mean, she admitted the boat doesn't even have a head! Crazy.

However, for your second comment about taking it offshore, I think you're exaggerating the risk, at least for day trips with an experienced captain. I've been on several trips on similar boats out off Vancouver Island fishing for salmon and halibut. The seas can be rough, but with an experienced captain, a boat of that size can be as safe as a boat can be (no boat is "safe," really) in typical conditions. That said -- unless Bryophyte's husband is an experienced captain, I share your concern for their particular situation.

How big was that boat with the missing NFL players?

MotionMan

21 foot center console

...which they took out under a small craft advisory. Not a smart move. The point is, you're never 100% safe on a boat, but there are precautions that experienced folks take to minimize risk. I'm not sure you guys realize just how common a boat that size is for nearshore and "offshore" fishing.

21 foot is fine for day fishing trip, my parents have a 16 foot boat just for that and we take it out to lake erie / lake st. claire without problems. That being said, you shouldn't be on it when the winds gust 30mph.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: halik
21 foot is fine for day fishing trip, my parents have a 16 foot boat just for that and we take it out to lake erie / lake st. claire and such.

I think we're on the same page here -- I don't think anyone (except maybe the OP) intends to make transatlantic voyages on a 21' pleasureboat.

I just wanted to clarify that most sport fishermen fish from boats of this size up to 20-30 miles offshore, on every coast of this continent daily. But, for the most part, the ones who make it back safe and sound pay close attention to the tides and weather, know the areas they fish well and what seasons are safe for offshore travel in their boats, carry proper safety, flotation, and first aid equipment, and have had boat safety training as well as years of experience on the water. And they most likely aren't making any overnight offshore trips.

EDIT: Totally agreed on your edit.

 

[BoomerD]

What's always astounded me, is that you have to have a license to drive a car, truck, motorcycle, airplane, etc...but not a boat.

20+ years ago when we bought our first "boat" (as compared to the little aluminum fishing boats or canoes we've owned in the past) we took some USCGA Boater Safety classes.

http://nws.cgaux.org/visitors/...ls_and_seamanship.html

If you don't have a local Coast Guard Auxiliary where you live, you may have the local US Power Squadron who offers very good classes as well.
http://www.usps.org/e_stuff/public_ed.htm

As with any vehicle, it makes sense and it's far safer when everyone knows (and follows) the "rules of the road."

I've had the opportunity (and some prodding from the company) to get USCG licensed as a Master....up to 100 tons, but while I like playing and working on the water, I never wanted to drive boats for a living.

 

[Fiat1]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The two happiest days of your life:

1) The day you buy a boat.

2) The day you sell it.

Congrats on your first happiest day.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Bryophyte

Originally posted by: Naustica
pics? Prices are crazy low right now and you can steal a deal. My friend bought a bank repo boat at an auction for cheaper than what he paid for the motor on his old boat! He's getting it serviced right now so we can go tuna fishing next month.

Pics! They've started sending us some photos as they fabricate the boat:

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3985.JPG
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3981.JPG

No cuddy?
Where are you gonna sleep/make food/ go to the bathroom etc

Living on the boat. Here's another pic so you can get an idea of the size of the boat (welder in picture for scale).

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Bryophyte/DCP_3977.JPG

Where does the sail go?

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
What's always astounded me, is that you have to have a license to drive a car, truck, motorcycle, airplane, etc...but not a boat.

20+ years ago when we bought our first "boat" (as compared to the little aluminum fishing boats or canoes we've owned in the past) we took some USCGA Boater Safety classes.

http://nws.cgaux.org/visitors/...ls_and_seamanship.html

If you don't have a local Coast Guard Auxiliary where you live, you may have the local US Power Squadron who offers very good classes as well.
http://www.usps.org/e_stuff/public_ed.htm

As with any vehicle, it makes sense and it's far safer when everyone knows (and follows) the "rules of the road."

I've had the opportunity (and some prodding from the company) to get USCG licensed as a Master....up to 100 tons, but while I like playing and working on the water, I never wanted to drive boats for a living.

:thumbsup:

 

[acid45]

Like this boat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU

 

[buck]

How much experience do you (or your husband) have as a boat captain OP?
Does your (or your husbands) lack of experience (if that is the case) concern you regarding the safety of your family on this boat for 2 months?