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We found a used 2013 Toyota Sienna XLE (with 16,400 miles) that was used as a loaner vehicle at the dealership. We talked the dealer down to 26. Maybe he was under the impression we were going to finance through the dealership? Tax, title, etc came to $27,200.
I hope to heck this was a good deal. We are buying it for the long haul and not really that much interested in its resale value. (Looking to own it for 10-12 years.)
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So my wife wants a minivan and I want to be castrated... :|
We've narrowed it down to 2014 Kia Sedona EX and Honda 2013 (used) EX. We cannot find any Toyota Sienna 2013s that are not astronomically priced here in NC. 2014s are out of the question for Toyota and Honda because of the package she wants (most important: sliding doors for our twin babies) is like buying a house.
So in my research in Honda in looking for problems, I see three recalls for the Odyssey but do not affect the one we're looking at, VIN is not in the series of recall cars. However, there is a new service bulletin that does affect the vehicle: TSB 13-081: Warranty Extension: MIL Comes On With DTCs P0301 Through P0304. The PDF doesn't say anything at this time except there will be an extension to the powertrain warranty. No cause or repair is mentioned in the bulletin (http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A13-081.PDF)
However, another bulletin sounds the same (http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/a13-078.PDF)
If you cannot view it, the main part says:
So should I stay away from this vehicle and keep searching?
We found a used 2013 Toyota Sienna XLE (with 16,400 miles) that was used as a loaner vehicle at the dealership. We talked the dealer down to 26. Maybe he was under the impression we were going to finance through the dealership? Tax, title, etc came to $27,200.
I hope to heck this was a good deal. We are buying it for the long haul and not really that much interested in its resale value. (Looking to own it for 10-12 years.)
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So my wife wants a minivan and I want to be castrated... :|
We've narrowed it down to 2014 Kia Sedona EX and Honda 2013 (used) EX. We cannot find any Toyota Sienna 2013s that are not astronomically priced here in NC. 2014s are out of the question for Toyota and Honda because of the package she wants (most important: sliding doors for our twin babies) is like buying a house.
So in my research in Honda in looking for problems, I see three recalls for the Odyssey but do not affect the one we're looking at, VIN is not in the series of recall cars. However, there is a new service bulletin that does affect the vehicle: TSB 13-081: Warranty Extension: MIL Comes On With DTCs P0301 Through P0304. The PDF doesn't say anything at this time except there will be an extension to the powertrain warranty. No cause or repair is mentioned in the bulletin (http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A13-081.PDF)
However, another bulletin sounds the same (http://techinfo.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/a13-078.PDF)
If you cannot view it, the main part says:
American Honda is announcing a powertrain warranty extension as a result of a settlement of a class captioned, Soto et al.v..American Honda Motor Co., Inc., Case No. 3:12-cv-1377-SI (N.D. Cal.).
The piston rings on certain cylinders may rotate and align which can lead to spark plug fouling. This can set DTCs P0301 through P0304 and cause the MIL to come on. American Honda is extending the powertrain warranty to cover repairs related to engine misfire (that triggers DTCs P0301 through P0304) to 8 years with unlimited mileage from the original date of purchase and has settled a class action based on this remedial measure. This warranty extension does not apply to any vehicle that has ever been declared a total loss or sold for salvage by a financial institution or insurer, or has a branded or similar title under any states law.
CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION
Owners of affected vehicles will be sent a class action settlement notice regarding this warranty extension starting in October 2013. Before doing work on a vehicle, verify its eligibility by doing an iN VIN status inquiry. Refer customers seeking information about settlement benefits to www.enginemisfiresettlement.com, or instruct them to call 888-888-3082.
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Inspect the vehicle and, if necessary, clean the pistons, and replace the piston rings in the affected cylinders.
So should I stay away from this vehicle and keep searching?
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