Bought a Dell U2713HM

[Shagga]

I had to buy a new monitor as the one I use at the moment is about to pop, I can feel it.

Now I bought it on impulse and only after very little investigation. Mind you there isn't a great deal on the web about it right now. It arrives on Monday so if there is anything anyone would like to know, ask away. I'll take a few pics when it arrives and I get it up and running.

I don't know if it's any good or if it will be amazing, all i know is that I needed a monitor and it was sub £600. Would have bought the 30" but couldn't afford it right now.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Wow, I had never heard of this monitor until now. I wonder how low of a price it will go on sale? It could be a great alternative to the Catleap (which many of us ordered because of its incredible price).

A quick Google search brings up this review:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2713hm.htm

 

[Shagga]

I skimmed over the review on that site but guess I will go and read through it all. lol A lot of it won't mean much to me I guess. I originally had a look on AT to see if they had reviewed it and was surprised to note it didn't even get a mention!

 

[Termie]

Somewhat facetiously announced here: http://techreport.com/news/23388/dell-new-27-inch-ips-monitor-doubles-price-of-korean-imports

Truth is, it's probably worth it for many people for the warranty alone. The controls and usb3 are just a bonus. I'm personally going to be very interested in it when a coupon discount is advertised.

 

[blackened23]

The korean monitors are cheap because the quality is substantially worse, you simply won't find tons of dell u**** monitors with backlight bleed and dead pixels. More often than not they are good screens with tons of inputs and a great warranty..... not saying the korean screens are all bad but on a whole dell spends more tim eensuring the quality is as it should be with a warranty to match.

Not sure what the deal is with that techreport editor.

 

[Cookie Monster]

The korean monitors are cheap because the quality is substantially worse, you simply won't find tons of dell u**** monitors with backlight bleed and dead pixels. More often than not they are good screens with tons of inputs and a great warranty..... not saying the korean screens are all bad but on a whole dell spends more tim eensuring the quality is as it should be with a warranty to match.

Not sure what the deal is with that techreport editor.

The build/production quality is horrendous on the korean monitors hence why its so cheap. However the panel that they use is really good (S-IPS grade A - the same panel used in apple cinema displays) and rarely found in monitors sold internationally outside Korea. So for those who did find ones without dead pixels then its a damn good bargain.

Would like to see how AH-IPS stacks up against other panels.

 

[ButtMagician]

No PWM is definitely a plus for me. But I'm interested in what kind of input lag this thing will have. AFAIK bigger monitors usually have more lag?

 

[blackened23]

The build/production quality is horrendous on the korean monitors hence why its so cheap. However the panel that they use is really good (S-IPS grade A - the same panel used in apple cinema displays) and rarely found in monitors sold internationally outside Korea. So for those who did find ones without dead pixels then its a damn good bargain.

Would like to see how AH-IPS stacks up against other panels.

Backlight bleed and color non uniformity will ruin any IPS panel no matter what quality it is. Build quality matters.

 

[Termie]

First professional review I've seen of the U2713: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ltrasharp-u2713-27-ah-ips-monitor-review.html

And they love it...I'm definitely putting this on my wish list for the future. I've gotten tremendous use out of my past Dell monitors. The service/warranty and extra features (ports, adjustability) are worth paying for, in my opinion.

On a sidenote, I can't believe how power efficient this monitor is. It uses 21w once calibrated, while my older 2408 uses about 60w.

 

[Despoiler]

The korean monitors are cheap because the quality is substantially worse, you simply won't find tons of dell u**** monitors with backlight bleed and dead pixels. More often than not they are good screens with tons of inputs and a great warranty..... not saying the korean screens are all bad but on a whole dell spends more tim eensuring the quality is as it should be with a warranty to match.

Not sure what the deal is with that techreport editor.

Dell's IPS offerings have terrible quality. You've somehow never heard of the infamous red/green tint issue?

Either way I have been looking at the 2713HM as my next monitor. Still waiting for them to launch on the US website. The input lag it has might be a non-starter though. TFT central say 22ms, which is a bit over 1 frame. My current 23" e-ips NEC EA231WMi has 8.8ms input lag.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I like Dell alone for the decency to use matte plastic.

 

[blackened23]

Dell's IPS offerings have terrible quality. You've somehow never heard of the infamous red/green tint issue?

Either way I have been looking at the 2713HM as my next monitor. Still waiting for them to launch on the US website. The input lag it has might be a non-starter though. TFT central say 22ms, which is a bit over 1 frame. My current 23" e-ips NEC EA231WMi has 8.8ms input lag.

This is not true. Just because you read an account of Joe Bob somewhere on the internet saying "My u2713 sucks it has a green tint" isn't indicative of the product as a whole. I guarantee that the u2711 has substantially higher satisfaction and quality control than any catleap, guarantee it. On top of that Dell has a fairly no quibbles advanced replacement policy with a solid warranty.

As a preface, i'm not saying catleaps are bad - i'm bringing this up because that it is a direct competetor with the 2713. With a catleap, you're taking a risk. You might get a good one, or you may not. Better pray that the reseller will take care of you, because any warranty will be sketchy if it even exists. With dell, you're guaranteed to get a top quality monitor and if you are in the very small minority that doesn't, no problem advanced replacement warranty. More often than not, you get what you pay for - and even if you're in the extreme minority that gets a bad model, you're taken care of. Hell if your monitor fails 2 years later, you're taken care of. If a catleap fails 6 months after the fact, what do you do then? You're probably screwed, it depends entirely on your reseller. This is why I like dell screens and will gladly pay a premium.

 

[Despoiler]

This is not true. Just because you read an account of Joe Bob somewhere on the internet saying "My u2713 sucks it has a green tint" isn't indicative of the product as a whole. I guarantee that the u2711 has substantially higher satisfaction and quality control than any catleap, guarantee it. On top of that Dell has a fairly no quibbles advanced replacement policy with a solid warranty.

As a preface, i'm not saying catleaps are bad - i'm bringing this up because that it is a direct competetor with the 2713. With a catleap, you're taking a risk. You might get a good one, or you may not. Better pray that the reseller will take care of you, because any warranty will be sketchy if it even exists. With dell, you're guaranteed to get a top quality monitor and if you are in the very small minority that doesn't, no problem advanced replacement warranty. More often than not, you get what you pay for - and even if you're in the extreme minority that gets a bad model, you're taken care of. Hell if your monitor fails 2 years later, you're taken care of. If a catleap fails 6 months after the fact, what do you do then? You're probably screwed, it depends entirely on your reseller. This is why I like dell screens and will gladly pay a premium.

There are several massive threads on Dell's forums with this issue. Just google Dell green pink

 

[blackened23]

I don't care. You can find stuff like that for any product. Overall their QA is excellent and if you in an extreme minority they will fix it.

I can find 17 million reports of dead monitors of any variety. So what. Any product for that matter, any type of component. Try googling dead pixels catleap sometime.

 

[Despoiler]

I don't care. You can find stuff like that for any product. Overall their QA is excellent and if you in an extreme minority they will fix it.

I can find 17 million reports of dead monitors of any variety. So what. Any product for that matter, any type of component. Try googling dead pixels catleap sometime.

Lol, just lol. We aren't talking extreme minority. We aren't talking dead pixels, which is something that happens with the technology. We are talking specific issues with Dell and their quality control on their IPS monitors. Sure they have a great warranty, but a lot of people were sending back 4 or 5 monitors just to get one w/o the issue. Ignore the facts all you want...I've got a bucket of sand for your head.

 

[ShintaiDK]

After reading the Hardwarecanucks review. I am even more tempted to buy it. And its up on danish sites to buy.....!

http://www.pricerunner.dk/pl/25-2837852/Skaerme/Dell-UltraSharp-U2713HM-Sammenlign-Priser

 

[blackened23]

Lol, just lol. We aren't talking extreme minority. We aren't talking dead pixels, which is something that happens with the technology. We are talking specific issues with Dell and their quality control on their IPS monitors. Sure they have a great warranty, but a lot of people were sending back 4 or 5 monitors just to get one w/o the issue. Ignore the facts all you want...I've got a bucket of sand for your head.

My entire point is that you can google stuff like this about any product, any brand, any time. Your supposed "facts" are nothing but - its just a bunch of people complaining on the internet which you can find for any product. If you look at reviews of the U2713 and U3011 (which I use) the great majority of users get good products and if they don't, dell has them covered. You're basing your "facts" on forum whiners which is hardly facts - Do you have accurate statistics as a reseller? No I didn't think so, so much for your facts. You can google whiners on the internet though. So what. I can find people whining about any and every product available and I can get 28,000 hits on any product you can name. I reiterate: SO WHAT. I can get 75,000 google hits on people whining about their broken ipods. So what. Does that mean that ipods have quality control issues? I've got a bucket of sand for your head. The great majority get good products, and you are not taking a risk. Period. Please don't bother us with google'd "facts" again

 

[ShintaiDK]

Problem with forum whines and complains is you only hear about that single person with an issue. Not the 99 others that is happy for the product.

 

[Zxian]

I've been tempted to upgrade my monitors for a while now, although I probably want to shift away from the 3x24" setup I've got now. I figure that I'd probably get far better use out of my setup if I had a larger center monitor and two smaller ones on the sides. U2713HM + 2xU2212HM maybe?

 

[Despoiler]

My entire point is that you can google stuff like this about any product, any brand, any time. Your supposed "facts" are nothing but - its just a bunch of people complaining on the internet which you can find for any product. If you look at reviews of the U2713 and U3011 (which I use) the great majority of users get good products and if they don't, dell has them covered. You're basing your "facts" on forum whiners which is hardly facts - Do you have accurate statistics as a reseller? No I didn't think so, so much for your facts. You can google whiners on the internet though. So what. I can find people whining about any and every product available and I can get 28,000 hits on any product you can name. I reiterate: SO WHAT. I can get 75,000 google hits on people whining about their broken ipods. So what. Does that mean that ipods have quality control issues? I've got a bucket of sand for your head. The great majority get good products, and you are not taking a risk. Period. Please don't bother us with google'd "facts" again

Lol you used Apple Ipods as an example of quality hardware. BWWHAHAHAAH!

 

[Larnz]

I bought 3 U2711's couldn't be happier with the build quality. After almost 2 years they have had zero issues and keep their calibration almost identical.

 

[Despoiler]

Looks like these finally showed up on the US shop. $799. Bring on the coupons.

 

[Termie]

Looks like these finally showed up on the US shop. $799. Bring on the coupons.

Thanks for the heads up. Here's the link: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...noteSearch&baynote_bnrank=15&baynote_irrank=0

Definitely going to be watching the price on this as a potential replacement for my excellent 2408wfp.

 

[Termie]

Looks like this wasn't a fluke: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6308/dell-u2713hm-unbeatable-performance-out-of-the-box

Anandtech loves it.

 

[blackened23]

Someone please tell me why the editor here does response / input lag tests at NON NATIVE resolution?

Anyway, looks like a great monitor. The less aggressive AG alone makes it better (IMO) than the u2711.