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Arkaign

Lifer
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Originally posted by: DefDC
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Is the purpose of gift giving to please the giver or the receiver?

When I give something, what I hope to get back is the knowledge
that I've pleased the gift receiver, gotten them exactly what they wanted.
I'd be pissed if somebody acted all grateful and happy about a gift they
weren't thrilled with and I missed out on the chance to return/exchange the item
for something that will really thrill them.

On the flip side when you recieve a gift, take it for what it is, A GIFT. It is not something you custom ordered, not something you picked out and not something you paid for. It is an expresion of good will and/or love.

It's not the gift itself that counts, but the thought. To shit all over a gift, or worse; refuse it, is about as rude as one can be. This is you telling the gift giver that they suck. Period.

She wanted a laptop. He got what HE thought would be best. It is HIS thought and care that counts, not her demands. If she demands something else, then it is no longer a gift, but payment.

Trust me, he's fucked.

And for some people, a gift isn't really a gift, it's a chance to showboat,to play the little bigman or big woman, to add the gift to the litany of things that the receiver should be grateful to the giver for. "All the things I've done for you"

She's saying the OP doesn't know her, not as well as he should know her by now, I'm thinking there's another piece to the story,one we haven't heard.

oh and I'm no spoiled princess, I am the giver of gifts,seldom the receiver and never the receiver of anything anywhere close to a laptop costing over $800.


I understand what you're saying. But I think that'd be more applicable to stopping to buy a quick surprise dinner at the drive through, and constantly forgetting to ask them to hold the pickles on the burger, knowing how she HATES pickles.

A laptop is not something anyone should poo-poo due to it's aesthetics. This is a major gift. Saying that she'd let her brother pick either laptop is turning her nose up at his generosity and couldn't be more disrespectful. Seeing that these decals are available, she can customize her own laptop, and accept his gift and be grateful.

If you needed a car, and really loved RED cars, and someone bought you GREEN are you REALLY going to throw the keys in their face?

She was out of line. And trying to attack HIM with a "Why don't you know me?" line was the worst thing she could have done. Because now he DOES know more about her, and it has nothing to do with the color pink.

I've never seen you post before, but that was spot-on
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Farang
lol @ buying a laptop for her brother. double fail

I bet you wouldn't be saying that if you were the brother in question here

correct.. wish I had a sister. I didn't know that was a perk.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: DefDC

I understand what you're saying. But I think that'd be more applicable to stopping to buy a quick surprise dinner at the drive through, and constantly forgetting to ask them to hold the pickles on the burger, knowing how she HATES pickles.

A laptop is not something anyone should poo-poo due to it's aesthetics. This is a major gift. Saying that she'd let her brother pick either laptop is turning her nose up at his generosity and couldn't be more disrespectful. Seeing that these decals are available, she can customize her own laptop, and accept his gift and be grateful.

If you needed a car, and really loved RED cars, and someone bought you GREEN are you REALLY going to throw the keys in their face?

She was out of line. And trying to attack HIM with a "Why don't you know me?" line was the worst thing she could have done. Because now he DOES know more about her, and it has nothing to do with the color pink.


The OP says that this gal has been a standup, good person. I suspect that there might be other stuff going on here that we haven't been made privy to.

There's also another issue here.. OP says this gal doesn't have a lot of money, she might well be uncomfortable with the fact that OP had already spent a few hundred on the smaller...shudder... Acer laptop for her brother and might very well be refusing the bigger
system to save the OP some money.

Also.. as to a car, if I was going to BUY somebody a car, I'd make darn sure I knew what their favorite colors were in auto's.

To me, a gift is about pleasing the receiver, occasionally I will chose wrongly, I'd rather hear about it so that we can exchange the gift than to have somebody keep it though it doesn't really suit them.

I want what I give you to be thoughtful,useful and something you will love.. if it doesn't quite cut it, I'm not going to be offended or think you ungrateful if you exchange it or I take it back for a refund.I'd be more upset to hear that you kept it pretty much to avoid offending me.
 

ruu

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Oct 24, 2008
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OP hasn't stated anything about what his girl said in response to non-pink laptop. Did she really cross her arms and huff, "Ew, I only want pink. Omg, you totally don't know me." Her conduct and mannerisms have everything to do with the reasonableness of her response.

It's very easy to get defensive when you get someone a gift and they don't take it as well as you think/hope they will.

Also, just because it's a girl and it's the color pink doesn't mean anything about her validity or vapidity as a person. It's an expensive, meaningful present that she's going to have for a while. She better be pleased about it, she better be happy about being seen with it, and if she's not pleased about it, I think she has every right to let the OP know that she's not. Pretending to be happy about gifts you aren't happy about is unfair to both of them---if/when he finds out that she's been lying about liking things so as to not hurt his feelings, they're gonna have a hell of a lot more to talk/argue about.

If she was bitchy about it, then she needs to learn some manners. But if she wasn't, then OP needs to back off and just go with her to find one that she likes.
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: DefDC

I understand what you're saying. But I think that'd be more applicable to stopping to buy a quick surprise dinner at the drive through, and constantly forgetting to ask them to hold the pickles on the burger, knowing how she HATES pickles.

A laptop is not something anyone should poo-poo due to it's aesthetics. This is a major gift. Saying that she'd let her brother pick either laptop is turning her nose up at his generosity and couldn't be more disrespectful. Seeing that these decals are available, she can customize her own laptop, and accept his gift and be grateful.

If you needed a car, and really loved RED cars, and someone bought you GREEN are you REALLY going to throw the keys in their face?

She was out of line. And trying to attack HIM with a "Why don't you know me?" line was the worst thing she could have done. Because now he DOES know more about her, and it has nothing to do with the color pink.


The OP says that this gal has been a standup, good person. I suspect that there might be other stuff going on here that we haven't been made privy to.

There's also another issue here.. OP says this gal doesn't have a lot of money, she might well be uncomfortable with the fact that OP had already spent a few hundred on the smaller...shudder... Acer laptop for her brother and might very well be refusing the bigger
system to save the OP some money.

Also.. as to a car, if I was going to BUY somebody a car, I'd make darn sure I knew what their favorite colors were in auto's.

To me, a gift is about pleasing the receiver, occasionally I will chose wrongly, I'd rather hear about it so that we can exchange the gift than to have somebody keep it though it doesn't really suit them.

I want what I give you to be thoughtful,useful and something you will love.. if it doesn't quite cut it, I'm not going to be offended or think you ungrateful if you exchange it or I take it back for a refund.I'd be more upset to hear that you kept it pretty much to avoid offending me.

I could not agree with GB more. She is ABSOLUTELY spot on correct.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: G Wizard
that's a giant red flag.
:thumbsup:
What she said is just code for "You need to read my mind, bitch."
Someone has a lot of growing up to do, and you're going to pay for it if you marry her like she is now.
Any wonder why divorce exceeds 50%?


 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Is the purpose of gift giving to please the giver or the receiver?

When I give something, what I hope to get back is the knowledge
that I've pleased the gift receiver, gotten them exactly what they wanted.
I'd be pissed if somebody acted all grateful and happy about a gift they
weren't thrilled with and I missed out on the chance to return/exchange the item
for something that will really thrill them.
What the fuck ever happened to the intent of the gift giver? That"tis better to GIVE than to RECEIVE"? Apparently, the OP's financee is still immature and has an unreaslistic idea of what it takes for a relationship to succeed, if she thinks it's his responsibility to read her mind.
Women are fundamentally different than men when it comes to gifting. Twas ever thus.
It has been universally discussed that men are dense when it comes to "hints", especially when it's coming from someone who has a different mental construct of what it is that men respond to, like a woman.
Women are forever saying what the OP's financee said to each other, when it all could be avoided by saying directly what it is she wants.
Here's a hint..... SAY it directly! Now you know that was a concrete suggestion and not some more extraneous talking that we tune out to maintain our sanity

 

dennilfloss

Past Lifer 1957-2014 In Memoriam
Oct 21, 1999
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Originally posted by: Wheezer
wow...what an ungrateful brat...you should pull her pants down and spank her.

"Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot! She is a bad person and must pay the penalty! You must spank her well, and after you have spanked her, you may deal with her as you like."

 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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females are rarely happy, even if he had gotten it in Pink it probably still would have been missing an add-on she wanted.

the moral to this story, and many like it... men can't win.

 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: DefDC

I understand what you're saying. But I think that'd be more applicable to stopping to buy a quick surprise dinner at the drive through, and constantly forgetting to ask them to hold the pickles on the burger, knowing how she HATES pickles.

A laptop is not something anyone should poo-poo due to it's aesthetics. This is a major gift. Saying that she'd let her brother pick either laptop is turning her nose up at his generosity and couldn't be more disrespectful. Seeing that these decals are available, she can customize her own laptop, and accept his gift and be grateful.

If you needed a car, and really loved RED cars, and someone bought you GREEN are you REALLY going to throw the keys in their face?

She was out of line. And trying to attack HIM with a "Why don't you know me?" line was the worst thing she could have done. Because now he DOES know more about her, and it has nothing to do with the color pink.


The OP says that this gal has been a standup, good person. I suspect that there might be other stuff going on here that we haven't been made privy to.

There's also another issue here.. OP says this gal doesn't have a lot of money, she might well be uncomfortable with the fact that OP had already spent a few hundred on the smaller...shudder... Acer laptop for her brother and might very well be refusing the bigger
system to save the OP some money.

Also.. as to a car, if I was going to BUY somebody a car, I'd make darn sure I knew what their favorite colors were in auto's.

To me, a gift is about pleasing the receiver, occasionally I will chose wrongly, I'd rather hear about it so that we can exchange the gift than to have somebody keep it though it doesn't really suit them.

I want what I give you to be thoughtful,useful and something you will love.. if it doesn't quite cut it, I'm not going to be offended or think you ungrateful if you exchange it or I take it back for a refund.I'd be more upset to hear that you kept it pretty much to avoid offending me.

I could not agree with GB more. She is ABSOLUTELY spot on correct.

Leave it to the females to defend the necessity of a pink laptop. Oh yeah, I went there.

While this scenario is possible, the more likely scenario is that the "emotional" thinkers need to find a reason that this makes sense. Logically, there isn't a way.
 

2Xtreme21

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Jun 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: amicold
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Zee
"i can't believe you still dont know me"

You should think about this. You bought something you thought was cool, don't be mad at her. Next you'll be buying her power tools.

Idk I'd have to say that unless she explicitly asked for a pink fucking laptop that one would have no idea. I know plenty of women who would be mad in the reverse situation.

BUT HE'S JUST SUPPOSED TO GET THE HINT THAT SHE LEFT!!!!!!

Ya know, the one 8 months ago about how one of her favorite 18 colors is pink.
 

ric1287

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Nov 29, 2005
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unless it was explained somewhere i missed...how is she not an ungrateful snob for bitching over the (100% meaningless) color of an expensive gift?
 

rubix

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drink a gallon of pink lemonade kool-aid and then shit on the laptop. problem solved.
 

2Xtreme21

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Jun 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: ric1287
unless it was explained somewhere i missed...how is she not an ungrateful snob for bitching over the (100% meaningless) color of an expensive gift?

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
The OP says that this gal has been a standup, good person. I suspect that there might be other stuff going on here that we haven't been made privy to.

There's also another issue here.. OP says this gal doesn't have a lot of money, she might well be uncomfortable with the fact that OP had already spent a few hundred on the smaller...shudder... Acer laptop for her brother and might very well be refusing the bigger
system to save the OP some money.

Also.. as to a car, if I was going to BUY somebody a car, I'd make darn sure I knew what their favorite colors were in auto's.

To me, a gift is about pleasing the receiver, occasionally I will chose wrongly, I'd rather hear about it so that we can exchange the gift than to have somebody keep it though it doesn't really suit them.

I want what I give you to be thoughtful,useful and something you will love.. if it doesn't quite cut it, I'm not going to be offended or think you ungrateful if you exchange it or I take it back for a refund.I'd be more upset to hear that you kept it pretty much to avoid offending me.

 
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Lola

Originally posted by: Tweak155
Originally posted by: Lola
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: DefDC

I understand what you're saying. But I think that'd be more applicable to stopping to buy a quick surprise dinner at the drive through, and constantly forgetting to ask them to hold the pickles on the burger, knowing how she HATES pickles.

A laptop is not something anyone should poo-poo due to it's aesthetics. This is a major gift. Saying that she'd let her brother pick either laptop is turning her nose up at his generosity and couldn't be more disrespectful. Seeing that these decals are available, she can customize her own laptop, and accept his gift and be grateful.

If you needed a car, and really loved RED cars, and someone bought you GREEN are you REALLY going to throw the keys in their face?

She was out of line. And trying to attack HIM with a "Why don't you know me?" line was the worst thing she could have done. Because now he DOES know more about her, and it has nothing to do with the color pink.


The OP says that this gal has been a standup, good person. I suspect that there might be other stuff going on here that we haven't been made privy to.

There's also another issue here.. OP says this gal doesn't have a lot of money, she might well be uncomfortable with the fact that OP had already spent a few hundred on the smaller...shudder... Acer laptop for her brother and might very well be refusing the bigger
system to save the OP some money.

Also.. as to a car, if I was going to BUY somebody a car, I'd make darn sure I knew what their favorite colors were in auto's.

To me, a gift is about pleasing the receiver, occasionally I will chose wrongly, I'd rather hear about it so that we can exchange the gift than to have somebody keep it though it doesn't really suit them.

I want what I give you to be thoughtful,useful and something you will love.. if it doesn't quite cut it, I'm not going to be offended or think you ungrateful if you exchange it or I take it back for a refund.I'd be more upset to hear that you kept it pretty much to avoid offending me.

I could not agree with GB more. She is ABSOLUTELY spot on correct.

Leave it to the females to defend the necessity of a pink laptop. Oh yeah, I went there.

While this scenario is possible, the more likely scenario is that the "emotional" thinkers need to find a reason that this makes sense. Logically, there isn't a way.

Hold it there bucko... i am NOT defending. I am simply saying that I give gifts that I know the giftee will love. I also feel strongly about people being appericative for anything they are given.
Cripes.:roll:
 

Muadib

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This is why I no longer buy crap for my gf. If she doesn't tell me exactly what she wants, I get nothing.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: Lola
Hold it there bucko... i am NOT defending. I am simply saying that I give gifts that I know the giftee will love. I also feel strongly about people being appericative for anything they are given.
Cripes.:roll:

Absolutely spot on means you agree with the "excuse" (quoted below) portion of her post. Not just how you expect a gift to be given / received.

There's also another issue here.. OP says this gal doesn't have a lot of money, she might well be uncomfortable with the fact that OP had already spent a few hundred on the smaller...shudder... Acer laptop for her brother and might very well be refusing the bigger
system to save the OP some money.
 
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