'Boy fatally shot while re-enacting video game'

[Tominator]

By far more kids are killed falling into buckets with liquid in them than by firearm accidents. Riding a bicycle, riding in a car, drowning in bathtubs. All cost more lives.

Firearm accidents are at all time lows. Education not legislation.

 

[Nemesis77]

My father introduced me to guns at a young age (altrough I haven't really been involved with 'em since my childhood). One thing he said over and over again was "Never ever point a gun to another person, no matter if it's loaded or not!".

If the parents sue Nintendo or something because of this, it just proves one thing: it's easier to blame someone else than to accept the blame yourself. And in this case, it's the parents fault (it usually is).

 

[j@cko]

OMG.. wha an idiot.

 

[llc00ljoel]

two words: natural selection

 

[StageLeft]

What's the real problem here - that the kid was acting out a game (btw kids play with guns other times as well, not just after playing games), or the fact that this kid's idiot of a father had a loaded pistol within reach of a 12 year old and quite possibly an 8 year old as well.

 

[Yeeny]

<< It was not a 'test.' It was a setup! Kids that had never been shown or trained about firearms were used. They had no idea if it was a toy because no one ever told them what real was.

With anything you could name, training with an emphasis on safety would have prevented these type of sad stories. It starts with parents that raise their kinds themselves and not depending on Government and Society to do it for them. >>



I saw that episode, and the main mother was a pro gun activist, who had trained her children NOT to touch the guns in their home. I remember the look of horror on her face when her son picked it up. Three year olds are going to touch guns, of coure they are. They touch stoves when told no, and will still try to run into the road if you do not watch them. To say a three year old can be trained not to do something wrong for them is just silly, thats part of being a kid.

 

[jthsmak]

Thank god it wasn't counter-strike, we don't need that kind of heat.

 

[Tominator]

GirlFriday

There is some truth in what you say, but there were other factors involved that I read about. If the link can be found, I'll sure provide it.

 

[Buzzman151]

Another hit for the gaming community :|

 

[BD2003]

Open your eyes people, geez. Violent video games are going to make kids more violent. So is violent TV. Its a proven psychological fact. There is no possible way for a parent to monitor each and every single thing they watch or play. If theyre not allowed to play certain video games, or watch certain shows, theyre going to wonder why, and specifically seek those shows out when noone is watching. Its just like porn.

Think about army training. The major goal of basic training is not to make you stronger, its to make you a KILLER. To desensitize you. Having violent TV and games around 24/7 has nearly the same effect. The realer games get, the more pronounced those effects will be.

The problem absolutely lies with our culture. We are a very violent people, we like to be excited etc....and the media is just catering to that because it bring in ratings. Can't blame the media for giving us what we want.

And noone wants to take responsibility. Noone wants to give up violent TV and games, so they blame other parents for not doing a good enough job. TV needs ratings, and games need sales, so they're going to scapegoat parents. They put it these ridiculous ratings schemes that noone pays any attention to, and then shrug off all responsibility. A major network that stood up and said no more violent shows, would be dead in a year. There is no solution to the problem short of just plain banning violent shows. Its everybody's fault and noone's fault at the same time.

Whats the best thing any of you can do realisitically? If you have to have one, dont leave your fvcking guns lying around.

In this case, its absolutely that idiotic parents fault for leaving a round in the chamber.

 

[woodly6]

<< dont any parents teach their kids anything? btw.. when i was 12 and was around a real gun (which was locked up btw), i was freaked out.. and had no desire to touch it, let alone pretend with it >>



I agree with you totally, I have been around guns my whole life, they are always locked up in a gun safe with the triger locks on, plus I was educated about safety with firearms and whatnot. What parents have firearm and dont teach their kids about them and the danger of "playing" around with them.

 

[GoldenTiger]

It isn't the parents fault, nor is it video games' fault... god I hate morons who automatically place blame on them *cough*bob970, woodly6*cough*. What, you think kids aren't people and can't think at all? You honestly think that they don't know what a gun does? They're not idiots, they read and watch movies just like you do, morons. I guess you never bothered learning when ignorance was instantaneous!

 

[Thegonagle]

Parents need to lock up the gun and lock up the bullets somewhere else. Video games have next to nothing to do with this tragedy.

 

[GoldenTiger]

LOL then they couldn't get to the gun in an emergency if they locked em up seperately, let alone locked at all. Everyone, including kids, knows perfectly well what a gun does by the time they are four or so even if their parents don't sit down with them and talk about it. They know that pulling the trigger will cause it to go bang and make the person it was aimed at be hurt... stop blaming anything else but the kids. Accidents happen... they aren't caused by the parents, Mr. Media-Zombie!

 

[gopunk]

parents fault.

what the hell good is a gun for protection if your own family is going to kill itself with it? a gun lock takes a few seconds to release anyways...

 

[TheOmegaCode]

GOD BLESS AMERICA! We breed em smart, AND STUPID!!!

 

[Rage187]

That sux..

But its one less 12 year old playing CS..


Thats what he was reanacting wasn't it?



Parents need to put the lock on the damn guns...

 

[MeanMeosh]

BigDee2003, and whose fault is it that PARENTS do not pay attention to the ratings system before they get the game for their kid? please... there are plenty of games that are non-violent and rated G, its the parents' fault for getting them an R rated game.

There are plenty of options to lock kids from violence, the v-chip, ratings on games, tv, music, etc... and the parents dont pay attention to this stuff and then you still blame the media?

 

[LethalWolfe]

<< That sux..

But its one less 12 year old playing CS..


Thats what he was reanacting wasn't it?



Parents need to put the lock on the damn guns... >>




No, it wasn't CS. Trying reading the article.



<< Open your eyes people, geez. Violent video games are going to make kids more violent. So is violent TV. Its a proven psychological fact >>



No, it is not a proven psychological fact. It is one of hottest debated psych topics, but it's far from a fact. And, IMO, it's a load of crap. People have been trying to censor/ban books, paintings, magazines, music, etc for centuries on the basis that exposure to said words/images will warp peoples' minds. Recently (w/in the past year) a teenage boy (13ish I think) was convicted of beating a little girl (7 or 8) to death. The boy's attorney tried to blame the WWF/WCW saying that the boy was just mimicking what he saw on TV. The jury called BS and convicted the kid.

Can parents monitor their kids viewing habbits 24/7? Of course not. Can parents teach their kid right from wrong, and the difference between reality and fantasy? Yes. It is the parents' responsibility to raise their kid.

If you choose to have guns in yer house you have to teach your kids gun safety. Yes, kids will be kids, but that's why you put the fear of God in them that guns are never to be touched unless mommy or daddy is with you.

Lethal

 

[Deleted member 54998]

Is this the cost of having guns in society?

 

[gopunk]

to quote chris rock:

what the fvck was hitler listening to?

 

[BD2003]

<< BigDee2003, and whose fault is it that PARENTS do not pay attention to the ratings system before they get the game for their kid? please... there are plenty of games that are non-violent and rated G, its the parents' fault for getting them an R rated game.

There are plenty of options to lock kids from violence, the v-chip, ratings on games, tv, music, etc... and the parents dont pay attention to this stuff and then you still blame the media? >>



Parents dont buy kids porn, but they get it anyway. Regardless of what you'd like to believe, kids are going to get it if they want it. Theyll just go to their friends house and play it, and itll be better than any game theyve ever played, because its the forbidden fruit. Besides, I dont know of a damn store, movie theater or rental, that stops anyone looking over 15 from seeing the more ridiculously R rated material.




<< No, it is not a proven psychological fact. It is one of hottest debated psych topics, but it's far from a fact. And, IMO, it's a load of crap. People have been trying to censor/ban books, paintings, magazines, music, etc for centuries on the basis that exposure to said words/images will warp peoples' minds. Recently (w/in the past year) a teenage boy (13ish I think) was convicted of beating a little girl (7 or 8) to death. The boy's attorney tried to blame the WWF/WCW saying that the boy was just mimicking what he saw on TV. The jury called BS and convicted the kid. >>



Neither is evolution, but its damn close. A 13 year old can take responsibility for his actions. An 8 year old has no idea. The blame always has to lie primarily with the parents because those very parents wont go without violent TV. The 2nd amendment isnt going anywhere as well.

Yes, this is the cost of having guns in a already too violent society.

 

[gopunk]

i don't think this problem is best solved with gun control or less violent tv. i think it's best solved with better parents.

 

[JeremyJoe]

thats kinda messed up....sac bee newspaper too i read that when i have the time

 

[lepper boy]

was gonna post thisin a new thread but i'll just put it here instead.. don't know if it's true.... but it is intereesting.
dave

Number of physicians in the US: 700,000 Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year:
120,000. Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171 (U.S. Dept.
of Health & Human Services)

Number of gun owners in the US: > 80,000,000. Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age
groups): 1,500. Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188 Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than
gun owners.

"FACT: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at
least one Doctor."

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat.
We must ban
doctors
before this gets out of hand. As a Public Health
Measure, I have
withheld
the statistics on Lawyers for fear that the shock
could cause people
to
seek medical aid.