'Boy fatally shot while re-enacting video game'

Ferocious

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<< A 12-year-old boy who fatally shot his younger brother said they were acting out an anti-terrorist video game when he accidentally pulled the trigger, according to police. >>


What a shame.
 

TallBill

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dont any parents teach their kids anything? btw.. when i was 12 and was around a real gun (which was locked up btw), i was freaked out.. and had no desire to touch it, let alone pretend with it
 

LiQiCE

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This is really tragic and I can imagine the parents and especially 12 year old must feel horrible about this.

But I hope it doesn't lead to laying more blame on the video game industry as it will inevitably do. If anything the parents should have properly secured the gun so the children could not get ahold of it, but I hope the public can just realize that this is a tragic accident and not because video games are so harmful to children.

 

Aelus

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<< The older boy said he took the gun from his brother because it was dangerous. He said he accidentally pulled the trigger. >>



ack, i bet he's going to be a good client for a psychologist at 40.

Aelus
 

kami

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Now they're going to blame violent video games for the sheer stupidity of a few boys. Oh wait, they already do this!

Blame the parents, not the freakin games.
 

MustangSVT

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<< Now they're going to blame violent video games for the sheer stupidity of a few boys. Oh wait, they already do this!

Blame the parents, not the freakin games.
>>




agree..

btw your a lifer too? i thought only yakko was a lifer hehe
 

kami

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Adul's a lifer too....Skoorb's almost there. A lot of the Elite's would be lifers if they weren't elite...damn lot of post-a-holics here
 

ShadowHunter

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<< What the hell is WinBack? >>



It's a Nintendo 64 game about fighting terrorism, ala Counter Strike. Pretty lame shooter IMHO.
 

Nefrodite

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i think 20/20 or one of those shows did a study on kids and guns. leave a gun in a room with one way glass to observe bring some kids in, leave em alone. they almost always start pointing em at each other and pulling the trigger even if taught about guns, the younger ones will do this. the older ones played with the gun and tried to take it i think

better not blame the video games
 

Elledan

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Okay, here we go again:

If there would not have been a loaded gun in the house....

Ah well, it doesn't matter, if there's no gun, children will use a metal pipe, or a baseball bat, or their bare hands.
The real issue here is not the videogame, not the gun, only the children themselves are important. Apparently, one of these children lacked common sense and let violence guide his hand.
He should be punished.
 

Scuttle

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Sad and distessing. But i feel the parents are the ones to be blamed. They left a loaded gun out within their children's reach without teaching them the full precautions of what would happen. I feel immensly bad for the kid, but think that the game had nothing to do with it (Everything has guns, if they hadn't been enacting a game, it could've been a film. Is there going to be a court case about whether films have the same effect? Nope. But when i was younger me and my bro used to act out films with "finger guns".)
 

Nefrodite

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Ah well, it doesn't matter, if there's no gun, children will use a metal pipe, or a baseball bat, or their bare hands.
The real issue here is not the videogame, not the gun, only the children themselves are important. Apparently, one of these children lacked common sense and let violence guide his hand.
He should be punished.


not true. the kids in the test didn't go crazy and want to kill their friends. they were just play acting.. with lethal consequences. Theres a ease of pulling a trigger, a disconnect. little children are well.. not all that bright. Theres a world of difference between playing the bang bang your dead game and taking a heavy pipe to your friends noggin.
 

LiQiCE

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Elledan,

If we are to take the news story as fact, the story claims that the 12 year old took the gun from the 8 year old because he knew it was dangerous, and as he was taking it from the child he accidently pulled the trigger and shot his brother. So it was an accident in terms of the 12 year old shooting the 8 year old, no violent act here... according to the news report at least.
 

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<< not true. the kids in the test didn't go crazy and want to kill their friends. they were just play acting.. with lethal consequences. Theres a ease of pulling a trigger, a disconnect. little children are well.. not all that bright. Theres a world of difference between playing the bang bang your dead game and taking a heavy pipe to your friends noggin. >>



It was not a 'test.' It was a setup! Kids that had never been shown or trained about firearms were used. They had no idea if it was a toy because no one ever told them what real was.

With anything you could name, training with an emphasis on safety would have prevented these type of sad stories. It starts with parents that raise their kinds themselves and not depending on Government and Society to do it for them.
 

RSI

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Hearing things like this literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. Not because I feel sorry for them, but at the thought that such immensely stupid people exist in the world today. I'm sorry, it must sound very crude to you regarding their situation, but think about it. Who the hell plays with their dads gun, to "make it more real"? And then on top of that, pulls the trigger by accident while trying to confiscate the gun because it's DANGEROUS?

"She phoned for help, "yelling and screaming desperately that someone had been shot," Stone said. She and her older son tried to perform CPR, though they didn't know the technique."

Another thing you might add that's quite sad. Not knowing CPR? Please, people. You are taught that in early years of education. At least, you should have been, I remember it being taught several years ago here.

"The older boy said he took the gun from his brother because it was dangerous. He said he accidentally pulled the trigger."

W-T-F! Jeez. Read the whole thing over. You can't tell me it doesn't boggle your mind that things like this happen? A mother to this must feel infinitely awful, but she and her husband are not without blame for it. Such a thing would have NEVER happened in my house, or even anyone's I know. There are no guns in the house... and I don't feel the urge to find a destructive tool of any sort to play with. When I was little I played nintendo, I went outside, climbed trees, etc. Guns were never a part of my life, and neither was violence, still isn't, regardless of me boxing (it's a sport, recreational activity to me).

Just a comment on the video games... You certainly can not blame it on them. It's just ludicrous how people blame it on them, cause they "can". Cause it's the easy thing to do. Think about it. There are hundreds of millions of people in the states and Canada who have either seen or do play violent videogames. If video games caused violent actions, the whole continent would be in chaos! Everyone would be hitting, stabbing and shooting each other wherever you look. i don't know about YOUR city, but this certainly does not describe the situation at hand.

Another thing would be to say they had a bad childhood, growing up with bad group of friends and such. But it doesn't SEEM like that. The parents appear to not be capable of keeping extremely dangerous things away from their children. As sad and hurtful as it is, the parents are at fault.

-RSI
 

Scuttle

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I was only taught CPR because i took a life-guard training course. Never once have we been told about it in school. I am in England, so i don't know if it's just a US thing.
 

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<< Adul's a lifer too....Skoorb's almost there. A lot of the Elite's would be lifers if they weren't elite...damn lot of post-a-holics here >>


prodigy69 is gonna be the next one... he has *9992* posts!
 

PlatinumGold

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nef so i can become a lifer.

this issue of guns in the house is serious. why put the gun in the reach of kids. this makes no sense to me. everything else is moot.

 

fragarific

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<< If there would not have been a loaded gun in the house....

Ah well, it doesn't matter, if there's no gun, children will use a metal pipe, or a baseball bat, or their bare hands.
The real issue here is not the videogame, not the gun, only the children themselves are important. Apparently, one of these children lacked common sense and let violence guide his hand.
He should be punished.
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I don't know about you I didn't have any metal pipes when I grew up.

How many times did you commit manslaughter by accidentally hitting someone with your hands?
If someone accidentally hits someone with a bat it doesn't KILL them?!? right??

Wow... Your thoughts are too much.
 

jjones

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sad and undoubtedly the parents fault. the children shouldn't have had access to the gun.
 

techweenie

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This is sad. I grew up around guns. Whenever we would go fishing, or out in the woods, we would always bring one. (In Alabama, you really want to have one incase you run into a snake, or wild hog, etc.) The FIRST thing I was taught, was "do NOT point any gun at ANY person. I knew if I did, my father would make sure that I couldn't sit down for a week. I think the blame here lies on the parents. I can't beleive they didn't have a trigger lock, or a safe for the gun.
 

Elledan

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<< Elledan,

If we are to take the news story as fact, the story claims that the 12 year old took the gun from the 8 year old because he knew it was dangerous, and as he was taking it from the child he accidently pulled the trigger and shot his brother. So it was an accident in terms of the 12 year old shooting the 8 year old, no violent act here... according to the news report at least.
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No direct violence was involved, true, but that was not what I was referring to.

It was the temptation of violence which lead to this unfortunate incident. According to the newsreport, the children got their hands on their father's gun to 'make things more real'. In other words, to make their game of violence more realistic. Their judgement was clearly influenced by their curiosity towards violence, which was fatal to one of the children.
 
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