Boy, we're really screwing up Darwin

[spidey07]

WTF!

Kids aren't supposed to have allergys. Our species isn't supposed to preserve those that cannot breath. We're screwing with natural selection big time.

This is how it works. Kids that are weak, continue to be weak. Therefore they do not mate.

I know I'll get super flamed for this but c'mon. Stop screwing with mother nature and the natural selection process. If you'd quit using super-duper-anti-bacterial everything to the point that your child has almost no anti-bodies then don't be suprised if they can't handle a little pollen. Histamine is good. Let it do it's job.

 

[JM Aggie08]

totally agreed.



SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST FTW

 

[Jassi]

Originally posted by: spidey07
WTF!

Kids aren't supposed to have allergys. Our species isn't supposed to preserve those that cannot breath. We're screwing with natural selection big time.

This is how it works. Kids that are weak, continue to be weak. Therefore they do not mate.

I know I'll get super flamed for this but c'mon. Stop screwing with mother nature and the natural selection process. If you'd quit using super-duper-anti-bacterial everything to the point that your child has almost no anti-bodies then don't be suprised if they can't handle a little pollen. Histamine is good. Let it do it's job.

Wow, which online university did you buy your MD degree from?

 

[Eli]

You can't be serious....

The ability to defy natural selection is exactly what makes us different from other animals.

 

[confused1234]

how come you never said this about the porn industry?

after all only humans and dolphins have sex for pleasure

 

[imported_vr6]

Originally posted by: Jassi

Originally posted by: spidey07
WTF!

Kids aren't supposed to have allergys. Our species isn't supposed to preserve those that cannot breath. We're screwing with natural selection big time.

This is how it works. Kids that are weak, continue to be weak. Therefore they do not mate.

I know I'll get super flamed for this but c'mon. Stop screwing with mother nature and the natural selection process. If you'd quit using super-duper-anti-bacterial everything to the point that your child has almost no anti-bodies then don't be suprised if they can't handle a little pollen. Histamine is good. Let it do it's job.

Wow, which online university did you buy your MD degree from?

I agree with spidey, people are taking way too many meds and don't flame natural selection, it got us where we are today. lets not ruin it.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

hey i have had allergies since i was a kid, we are superior to most other animals which makes us the dominant species of this planet, it is survival of the fittest, the human race is the most fit of any so technically we arent defying darwin

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: spidey07
WTF!

Kids aren't supposed to have allergys. Our species isn't supposed to preserve those that cannot breath. We're screwing with natural selection big time.

This is how it works. Kids that are weak, continue to be weak. Therefore they do not mate.

I know I'll get super flamed for this but c'mon. Stop screwing with mother nature and the natural selection process. If you'd quit using super-duper-anti-bacterial everything to the point that your child has almost no anti-bodies then don't be suprised if they can't handle a little pollen. Histamine is good. Let it do it's job.

i think my sarcasm meter is broked.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Eli


You can't be serious....

The ability to defy natural selection is exactly what makes us different from other animals.

Our ability to "defy" natural selection is born from natural selection, so cute idea, but not quite.

 

[dawnbug]

I agree that antibacterial stuff is awful, but that's about all I agree with you on here.

Having allergies wouldn't prevent a kid from passing on their genes, unless it was an allergy that killed them at a young age, and those are the things that are untreatable. If a kid just has a runny nose from hayfever all the time and has trouble breathing, it most likely won't kill them, and won't prohibit their genes being passed on and therefore isn't an example of natural selection.

And geez, if your kid's really uncomfortable because of an allergy, wouldn't you want to do what you could to end their discomfort? Not saying that we should baby kids all the time, but I know that I get really annoyed with myself when I have a cold and have trouble breathing-- I can't imagine living with that frequently or constantly.

Learn to see beyond yourself Spidey, and put yourself in someone else's shoes for awhile.

 

[Lonyo]

Soon we will stop evolving naturally anyway, and just fiddle with our genes to make us better.
This isn't going against Darwin, it's completely supporting it.
Survival of the fittest - and we are making it so EVERYONE survives, and everyone is equally fit (no allergies, no disease etc), or at least we are slowly heading in that direction, although we will not necessarily combat all disease/illness.

 

[eits]

wtf??

 

[gamepad]

Natural Selection is still in effect.

The inventor of this medication is very fit (making cash) which helps him get laid and spread his seed.

 

[shuttleboi]

There is no such thing as evolution. My high school teacher here in Kansas told me that yesterday. I'm 24.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Originally posted by: gamepad
Natural Selection is still in effect.

The inventor of this medication is very fit (making cash) which helps him get laid and spread his seed.

nice logic

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
I agree that antibacterial stuff is awful, but that's about all I agree with you on here.

Having allergies wouldn't prevent a kid from passing on their genes, unless it was an allergy that killed them at a young age, and those are the things that are untreatable. If a kid just has a runny nose from hayfever all the time and has trouble breathing, it most likely won't kill them, and won't prohibit their genes being passed on and therefore isn't an example of natural selection.

And geez, if your kid's really uncomfortable because of an allergy, wouldn't you want to do what you could to end their discomfort? Not saying that we should baby kids all the time, but I know that I get really annoyed with myself when I have a cold and have trouble breathing-- I can't imagine living with that frequently or constantly.

Learn to see beyond yourself Spidey, and put yourself in someone else's shoes for awhile.

I am seeing beyond myself (I believe).

And I most definately agree that if my kids were suffering I would do anything in the world to prevent that, darwin be damned.

But I can't help this inkling that we really are screwing with natural selection...this post/point is just another example. To our own detriment.

There have been medical studies and conclusions that support my point somewhat. The "superclean" environment is not good for children. I may have gone overboard in my rant...but IMHO the point is what I believe. Stop fargin' with mother nature. More importantly stop worrying about germs/foreign bodies. Our body is very good at fighting them. But you don't send a soldier that has never seen or fought the enemy into battle against the allergens, nor do you tell the troops to 'stand down and stop what they are doing'.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Allergies don't kill anybody.. They are just annoying.

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: spidey07
There have been medical studies and conclusions that support my point somewhat. The "superclean" environment is not good for children. I may have gone overboard in my rant...but IMHO the point is what I believe. Stop fargin' with mother nature. More importantly stop worrying about germs/foreign bodies. Our body is very good at fighting them. But you don't send a soldier that has never seen or fought the enemy into battle against the allergens, nor do you tell the troops to 'stand down and stop what they are doing'.

I've seen the studies, too. When I have kids, they'll be going outside and getting dirty, and probably having amazing immune systems because of it.

 

[cheesehead]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Allergies don't kill anybody.. They are just annoying.

And there's the #1 point. Most people with untreated allergies have kids anyway.

I might also point out that the big problem we face with natural selection is that too many stupid people are having kids accidentally.

Condoms FTW!

 

[Kobota]

Originally posted by: gamepad
Natural Selection is still in effect.

The inventor of this medication is very fit (making cash) which helps him get laid and spread his seed.

except the inventor will only have a few kids, while the person on welfare will have 10.

 

[cheesehead]

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy


I've seen the studies, too. When I have kids, they'll be going outside and getting dirty, and probably having amazing immune systems because of it.

I suffer from god-awful allergies.

When I was en utero, my mother made a point of gardening, and worked in a research lab. Research labs are usually germ central.

When I was a kid, I played outside CONSTANTLY. My folks were big-time gardners.

And here I am, with horrible allergy problems.

My athsma, however, is most easily linked to man-made pollution.

 

[flyboy84]

Originally posted by: spidey07
WTF!

Kids aren't supposed to have allergys. Our species isn't supposed to preserve those that cannot breath. We're screwing with natural selection big time.

This is how it works. Kids that are weak, continue to be weak. Therefore they do not mate.

I know I'll get super flamed for this but c'mon. Stop screwing with mother nature and the natural selection process. If you'd quit using super-duper-anti-bacterial everything to the point that your child has almost no anti-bodies then don't be suprised if they can't handle a little pollen. Histamine is good. Let it do it's job.

SIEG HEIL

Eugenics for great justice!

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy


I've seen the studies, too. When I have kids, they'll be going outside and getting dirty, and probably having amazing immune systems because of it.

I suffer from god-awful allergies.

When I was en utero, my mother made a point of gardening, and worked in a research lab. Research labs are usually germ central.

When I was a kid, I played outside CONSTANTLY. My folks were big-time gardners.

And here I am, with horrible allergy problems.

My athsma, however, is most easily linked to man-made pollution.

Yeah, I read that pollution is suspected to be a major part of the cause in the increase in the number of people with allergies nowadays.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Eli


You can't be serious....

The ability to defy natural selection is exactly what makes us different from other animals.

We aren't defying it, we're simply changing the selective pressure. Evolution continues, no matter what we do.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Cheesehead

Originally posted by: LadyBuggy


I've seen the studies, too. When I have kids, they'll be going outside and getting dirty, and probably having amazing immune systems because of it.

I suffer from god-awful allergies.

When I was en utero, my mother made a point of gardening, and worked in a research lab. Research labs are usually germ central.

When I was a kid, I played outside CONSTANTLY. My folks were big-time gardners.

And here I am, with horrible allergy problems.

My athsma, however, is most easily linked to man-made pollution.

Unfortunately, allergies are still not that well understood. Certainly, there are both genetic and environmental factors at work.

The thing is, the person who is allergic to lots of things, might be the person who is resistant to a particular parasitic disease. Given a large population, traits which might not so overtly positive at the individual level may be quite positive at the population level.

This is really a pretty interesting subject, imo. Is Gigantopithecus around? I think he'd have something to contribute.