Brand new build! Now cant install windows

[bde]

Hi,

I just finished putting together a pc
It consists of: asus z370e, samsung 960 evo and thats my only drive!
I get through bios screen no problem but when i insert the purchased windows 10 usb key it goes through the choice of 32bit or 64 bit then it gives me an error 0xc0000225 winload.efi or sometimes winload.exe but always a same error code! Could it be the usb drive is defectice? I did drop it from knee high on hard floor.

 

[XavierMace]

Check if Secure Boot is disabled in the BIOS.

 

[daveybrat]

Like Xavier said, make sure Secure Boot is disabled and also plug the USB stick into the USB 2.0 port on the back.

 

[bde]

Like Xavier said, make sure Secure Boot is disabled and also plug the USB stick into the USB 2.0 port on the back.

I cant disable it, its grayed out! Im trying to find out
I called the store the clerk asked me a few questions then said he is 99.99% sure that its the usb key thats defective as this is a common problem with microsoft’s flimsy usb keys!

 

[bde]

Check if Secure Boot is disabled in the BIOS.

How do you disable secure boot! Its blocked

 

[UsandThem]

Why not download Windows 10 installer from Microsoft, and make your own USB or DVD installation disk?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

 

[pcgeek11]

https://www.technorms.com/45538/disable-enable-secure-boot-asus-motherboard-uefi-bios-utility

 

[bde]

Why not download Windows 10 installer from Microsoft, and make your own USB or DVD installation disk?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

Thats what i did but i had to goto someone else’s house and wanted to avoid that! It worked like a charm, i cant believe how trashy these two brand new microsoft usb keys were!!! Way to go microsoft!!!

 

[UsandThem]

Thats what i did but i had to goto someone else’s house and wanted to avoid that! It worked like a charm, i cant believe how trashy these two brand new microsoft usb keys were!!! Way to go microsoft!!!

They probably just go with the cheapest Chinese manufacturer they found. They aren't quality units for sure.

 

[bde]

https://www.technorms.com/45538/disable-enable-secure-boot-asus-motherboard-uefi-bios-utility

Thanks bud afterall the issue was the 2 brand new garbage microsoft usb keys
I created my own fresh bootable usb on a GOOD usb drive and worked like a charm

 

[bde]

They probably just go with the cheapest Chinese manufacturer they found. They aren't quality units for sure.

Lol like seriously i cant believe it!!! That held me back for hours its freakin microsoft i expct more!!! But that being said!!
Im happy to tell you that with your advice i was able to put together the computer!!! So thank you for everything you suggested i listen to everything!! I did everything as we dicussed got the kraken x62 as well and i love it!!!! It took me 5 hours though to out everything together lol but when i was finally acomplished for a first timer like me, im very proud! Even if it took 5 hours! (I knew nothing about putting together a pc)
Now i got a couple of questions:
Overclocking since its, The i7-8700k can i just overclock it? Without having to worry about stability issues?
Here is what i already did! I returned my other new screen and got the Pg279q instead! Before it was too late! And i immediately put the refresh rate at 144hz before oc! Than following the instructions i oc’ed the monitor to 165hz, overwatch worked flawlessly!, cod modern warefare remastered worked flawlessly (Interesting enough with overwatch i managed to put my 1080ti to works at 97% with maxed graphics settings) but PUBG crashed for a very unknow reason after 20 minutes into the game, and starcraft 2 would go black screen if i ever pressed the windows botton... sc2 also failed at 144hz but i never changed the refresh rate in sc2 i left at default only monitor and nvidia settings! Should i just use default refresh rate for the monitor?

My take is that pubg was just a random maybe irrelevant reason! And sc2 is because when i presss the windows key and come to the desktop and given that the desktop is at 144 or 165 it gets all messed up and confused and doesnt know how to react!

Bottom line should i just leave my monitor at default 144? Cause i dont want to have disability issues! And everytime i wanna play sc2 i put down to 60hz?

Also by Overclocking the cpu that should not cause instability that im sure given that its expected for you to oc it!

Thanks

 

[UsandThem]

Bottom line should i just leave my monitor at default 144? Cause i dont want to have disability issues! And everytime i wanna play sc2 i put down to 60hz?

Also by Overclocking the cpu that should not cause instability that im sure given that its expected for you to oc it!

Thanks

I would just leave your monitor set a 144hz, it won't hurt anything, and you should be able to set SC2 to run a 60hz in the game's graphic options, I would think.

You can overclock your CPU without much worry as long as you don't try to push it too high, and as long as you have good cooling and temps. I'd just check out the CPU forum and see what other 8700k owners are saying about voltages and temperatures, and decide if you want to give it a go.

You can also not overclock it right now because it should handle everything with ease, and maybe overclock it a few years down the line when it isn't the "latest and greatest". That's what I am doing with my 6700k at the moment. I don't need the extra juice, so I'm just saving heat and energy leaving it be for the time being.

 

[bde]

I would just leave your monitor set a 144hz, it won't hurt anything, and you should be able to set SC2 to run a 60hz in the game's graphic options, I would think.

You can overclock your CPU without much worry as long as you don't try to push it too high, and as long as you have good cooling and temps. I'd just check out the CPU forum and see what other 8700k owners are saying about voltages and temperatures, and decide if you want to give it a go.

You can also not overclock it right now because it should handle everything with ease, and maybe overclock it a few years down the line when it isn't the "latest and greatest". That's what I am doing with my 6700k at the moment. I don't need the extra juice, so I'm just saving heat and energy leaving it be for the time being.

Thanks for the advice i will try that!
But what about my ram i got a 16gb g.skill rgb 16c 3200mhz but it runs at 2133 or something should i bring it to 3200? Also why is it over than advertised by default?

 

[UsandThem]

Thanks for the advice i will try that!
But what about my ram i got a 16gb g.skill rgb 16c 3200mhz but it runs at 2133 or something should i bring it to 3200? Also why is it over than advertised by default?

Because for Coffee Lake, the stock speed should be DDR4-2666, which is up from 2133 (Sky Lake) and 2400 (Kaby Lake). So yes, running your memory over that speed is technically overclocking it. However, Intel created the XMP profiles that should automatically set your RAM at 3200 when you enable the XMP profile in your BIOS, and some motherboards like mine have a little switch on the board itself that enables XMP.

So the official memory speed for my CPU is DDR4-2133, but I bought RAM that was listed as compatible with my board, and after flipping the switch, it automatically runs at DDR4-3200 without issue.

So in short, heck yeah run that RAM at 3200Mhz!

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html

 

[bde]

Because for Coffee Lake, the stock speed should be DDR4-2666, which is up from 2133 (Sky Lake) and 2400 (Kaby Lake). So yes, running your memory over that speed is technically overclocking it. However, Intel created the XMP profiles that should automatically set your RAM at 3200 when you enable the XMP profile in your BIOS, and some motherboards like mine have a little switch on the board itself that enables XMP.

So the official memory speed for my CPU is DDR4-2133, but I bought RAM that was listed as compatible with my board, and after flipping the switch, it automatically runs at DDR4-3200 without issue.

So in short, heck yeah run that RAM at 3200Mhz!

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html

My default is also at 2133 like yours but you also just said coffee lake should be 2666?
Also i just manually changed my ram speed to 3200 from 2133, and it stayed intact.... however my xmp is still disabled because i am not sure what “profile#1” consists of... sorry not so familiar...

 

[UsandThem]

My default is also at 2133 like yours but you also just said coffee lake should be 2666?
Also i just manually changed my ram speed to 3200 from 2133, and it stayed intact.... however my xmp is still disabled because i am not sure what “profile#1” consists of... sorry not so familiar...

You can create different profiles if you for some odd reason wanted to run it a different speeds, at different times.

Most people only have one profile, and use it. So for Asus, on the EZ mode screen you should be able to click XMP, and set it to enable. Then the UEFI should automatically determine the speed of your memory, and set it at that every time you reboot or shut down your PC.

Otherwise, you can manually set the speed and timings in the Ai Tweaker menu. XMP is short for "Extreme Memory Profile", so that's why it sets a profile.

 

[bde]

I see, so the profile # 1 was a result of what i had done through EZ mode once before, but through EZ mode its really a wizard that walks me through overclocking, asks me questions like what do i need it for gaming or reading, what kinda fan and etc... was interesting that the result of that was an overclock of my cpu only but not bringing my ram to 3200...so i disabled xmp and i manually increased my ram to 3200...what are your thoughts on this?

Also i decreased my refresh rate to 144 monitors default, i disabled v-sync although i dont know why i should but i did anyways to test, and sc2 still freezes with black screen when i click on start button... solution would be not to press on start but lol i mean whats up with that...
Thanks for all your comments bud i appreciate it very much!!! Youve been super helpful!!!

 

[UsandThem]

I see, so the profile # 1 was a result of what i had done through EZ mode once before, but through EZ mode its really a wizard that walks me through overclocking, asks me questions like what do i need it for gaming or reading, what kinda fan and etc... was interesting that the result of that was an overclock of my cpu only but not bringing my ram to 3200...so i disabled xmp and i manually increased my ram to 3200...what are your thoughts on this?

Also i decreased my refresh rate to 144 monitors default, i disabled v-sync although i dont know why i should but i did anyways to test, and sc2 still freezes with black screen when i click on start button... solution would be not to press on start but lol i mean whats up with that...
Thanks for all your comments bud i appreciate it very much!!! Youve been super helpful!!!

Manually setting your RAM speed and timings is fine. Many people still do it that way out of habit. It's what we did to push our systems before Intel created the whole one-click XMP "overclocking"/marketing thing.

As far as SC2 doing that, I'm not sure why it's doing that (since I don't have the game). Maybe if you created a help thread in PC gaming, maybe someone who plays that game can give you advice on that part.

 

[bde]

Manually setting your RAM speed and timings is fine. Many people still do it that way out of habit. It's what we did to push our systems before Intel created the whole one-click XMP "overclocking"/marketing thing.

As far as SC2 doing that, I'm not sure why it's doing that (since I don't have the game). Maybe if you created a help thread in PC gaming, maybe someone who plays that game can give you advice on that part.

Perfect for sc2 ill start a thread there...about xmp i was hoping to just use its simplicity... just as a personal interest im interested to know..In the final ez mode screen it says estimated tuning result would be 39% up for cpu and 28% up for dram:
which is 3811 mhz for cpu from 3700 and only 2747 for ram from 2133....not even bringing it up to 3200..
And yet my xmp profile consists of: XMP DDR4-3200 16-18-18-38-1.35v........ what do you think about all this?

 

[UsandThem]

It's probably doing that for stability reasons. The memory controller is on the CPU, so you sometimes have to balance out overclocked RAM and an overclocked CPU. I'd personally skip overclocking the CPU right now (or just do a small one), and run the RAM at 3200Mhz.

Otherwise you can set your RAM at 3200Mhz, and slowly increase your CPU overclock until you run into stability problems (like testing with Prime95, Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, etc.) and then backing back down a little bit.

You can read through this (long) thread to see how the process goes:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1639998/i7-8700k-overclock-results-and-settings

 

[bde]

It's probably doing that for stability reasons. The memory controller is on the CPU, so you sometimes have to balance out overclocked RAM and an overclocked CPU. I'd personally skip overclocking the CPU right now (or just do a small one), and run the RAM at 3200Mhz.

Otherwise you can set your RAM at 3200Mhz, and slowly increase your CPU overclock until you run into stability problems (like testing with Prime95, Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, etc.) and then backing back down a little bit.

You can read through this (long) thread to see how the process goes:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1639998/i7-8700k-overclock-results-and-settings

Alright ill do that!
I would like your opinion about something i realized throughout this coming back to pc world journey!... you know i left the pc world for 10 years and i remember back in those days people were trying to get a certain batch of cpu! assuing those batches would clock better after an OC! And furthermore overclocking was your discretion and at your own risk! Today i see it advertized on the box, you are actually kinda encouraged to OC it! Now i realize that all these companies said “okay if this is what people want.. is to OC... than we will enable our consumers” advertize and produce guides and manuals and etc.. ofcourse was a success! But lets be honest with each other here if my monitor is advertizing to go up to 165hz from 144hz by “enabling turbo mode or OCing it” its because it can really do that!!! You are not over exhasuting it, or pushing it above its limits... i find that its because it can really deliver 165hz comfortably!! Meaning the company has given enough room to play with..But to make you feel Happy and give you the satiafaction that you have actually OC’ed your machine! They called it OC, it is techincally an OC but i mean they have built the product in such way for you to have enough room..
I dont see why i shouldnt run my monitor at 165hz already all the time.. regarding sc2 i know that the issue with that game has nothing to do with resolution or refreash rate! I personally tested all settings. Its something else still unknown!
On another note If my cpu is i7-8700k than i should be super comfertable in pushing my cpu just because intel has produced enough room for me to do so..same for my gpu, same for my ram.. not that i need to but you know what i mean.. what do you think? and please correct me if im wrong!

Thanks

 

[UsandThem]

On another note If my cpu is i7-8700k than i should be super comfertable in pushing my cpu just because intel has produced enough room for me to do so..same for my gpu, same for my ram.. not that i need to but you know what i mean.. what do you think? and please correct me if im wrong!

Thanks

I agree. When people buy something that claims to overclock, or is already overclocked, it creates a premium sound for the product.

From CPUs, XMP, video card, monitors, and RAM, it can all be "overclocked". But they build them to run at those speeds for the most part without problem. The CPU is the one you have to watch out for as there is definitely a "silicon lottery" with those. Some are great overclockers, and require little extra voltage. Some require a ton of extra voltage for very little gains.

The same thing goes for the RAM and GPU. You can keep bumping them up until heat and voltage become your enemy, and then you will deal with stability issues. Some people overclock just because they can or for bragging rights, some do it to keep their components relevant. You gotta decide which kind you are, and decide if the extra heat and power needed is worth it.

 

[bde]

I agree. When people buy something that claims to overclock, or is already overclocked, it creates a premium sound for the product.

From CPUs, XMP, video card, monitors, and RAM, it can all be "overclocked". But they build them to run at those speeds for the most part without problem. The CPU is the one you have to watch out for as there is definitely a "silicon lottery" with those. Some are great overclockers, and require little extra voltage. Some require a ton of extra voltage for very little gains.

The same thing goes for the RAM and GPU. You can keep bumping them up until heat and voltage become your enemy, and then you will deal with stability issues. Some people overclock just because they can or for bragging rights, some do it to keep their components relevant. You gotta decide which kind you are, and decide if the extra heat and power needed is worth it.

Lol im like you, none of those types! I mean i dont need the extra power! At the moment! Like you said doing this in a year or 2 to keep components relevant! Only reason to overclock right now it would be overclocking my gpu to run PUBG at (3840x2160) flawlessly!! But even with OCing the gtx 1080ti it still will drop fps... and tbh i tried it at (3840x2160) already and the game looks ... blehh wierdish! So its a no go!!! Besides all that being said how much real diffrence are we talking about when it comes to gpu OCing.. not much to my opinion! Not like the CPUs anyways...I looked at the link you sent me i saw some people clocked at 5400mhz? On a 8700k? Thats freakin insane!!!