Brand new R9 290x, can't install drivers

[master_shake_]

you know what download 12.8 and try it

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/previous/detail?os=Windows%208%20-%2064&rev=12.8

just for fun

 

[f1sherman]

They don't support Windows XP

Actually 13.9 don't even have R9 290(x) on the product compatibility list.

they don't support Windows XP either, and that's according to release notes of 13.9 Windows XP version :ninja:

check it

http://support.amd.com/en-us/downlo...tail?os=Windows XP Professional/Home&rev=13.9

 

[KaRLiToS]

nope

13.9 or 13.10 is the official driver for that card.

13.9 is not the official driver of the card. 13.9 doesn't have Hawaii support. The card was released October 8th but was made available around October 23rd 2013

October = 10 of year 2013 so 13.10 is Official

 

[master_shake_]

13.9 is not the official driver of the card. The card was released October 8th but was made available around October 23rd 2013

October = 10 of year 2013 so 13.10 is Official

thats why i said or

:biggrin:

 

[KaRLiToS]

thats why i said or

:biggrin:

 

[Bateluer]

Well, others seem to disagree, but with my experience, I guess I have to agree. So one more reason to never buy AMD ever again.

Because AMD dropped support for an 11 year old OS on their modern graphics cards, of which Windows XP supports none of its flagship logic is a reason to never buy AMD again? Hate to break this to you, but Microsoft doesn't support Windows XP any more either.

 

[yh125d]

I can understand being frustrated that your OS is no longer supported. And you're right, AMD's download page was misleading as it made it seem as though it were supported. However, as others have stated, you'd be in the same boat if you had bought a GTX970, as the 900 series isn't supported on 32 bit XP (and their driver page reflects this, it shows no available drivers for that card/os combo).

But to be fair to AMD/NV, I think it's a reasonable expectation for someone who is a moderator on a tech forum, and an avid DC enthusiast to realize that a 32 bit OS that old, for which Microsoft themselves have stopped supporting, to see driver compatibility issues coming and to check before buying new hardware for use on legacy systems.

Also, it's not $150 for an OS, it's $100 and often less. I think springing for a modern OS every dozen years or so isn't a big ask for someone as involved in the tech community as you. Or how long do you think is appropriate for hardware vendors to support OS's that are 3 going on 4 generations old AND 32 bit?

While continued support is nice for the .00001% of users that still need it, in my opinion it is no longer reasonable to expect it on new products.

 

[master_shake_]

Because AMD dropped support for an 11 year old OS on their modern graphics cards, of which Windows XP supports none of its flagship logic is a reason to never buy AMD again? Hate to break this to you, but Microsoft doesn't support Windows XP any more either.

this is actually not true.

microsoft supports it for POS systems till 2019

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2310...-hack-keeps-the-security-updates-rolling.html

it's just that no one else does :biggrin:

 

[AnandThenMan]

this is actually not true.

microsoft supports it for POS systems till 2019

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2310...-hack-keeps-the-security-updates-rolling.html

it's just that no one else does :biggrin:

HAHA that cracks me up. Of course a registry hack would extend XP support very fitting. On the AMD driver page it does actually state the hardware supported after you make the appropriate selections but it could be more prominent. Either way I would by default expect XP NOT to be supported and would check to make sure before buying.

Well I would not bother with XP at all but that's a different subject. BTW using XP on a point of sale system is scary to me, trust XP with sensitive data like that? Nope. From the article I think this is good advice:

Even if you enable this registry hack, you'll still want to take steps to keep your Windows XP PC as safe as possible and upgrade to a more modern—and officially supported—operating system as soon as possible.

 

[iiiankiii]

You made a mistake. Return it and get a card that you know will work. Or, put it in a newer OS. I'm sure you can move one of your Nvidia card into that old WinXP system and swap the r9 290x into a win7/8 system. Unless, of course, all of your systems are on XP.

 

[Markfw]

No. This will be the same with basically any card using a newer GPU XP support is understandably dropped.

My Nvidia GTX 780 works just fine at 200k ppd under XP 32 OS.

 

[Markfw]

I can understand being frustrated that your OS is no longer supported. And you're right, AMD's download page was misleading as it made it seem as though it were supported. However, as others have stated, you'd be in the same boat if you had bought a GTX970, as the 900 series isn't supported on 32 bit XP (and their driver page reflects this, it shows no available drivers for that card/os combo).

But to be fair to AMD/NV, I think it's a reasonable expectation for someone who is a moderator on a tech forum, and an avid DC enthusiast to realize that a 32 bit OS that old, for which Microsoft themselves have stopped supporting, to see driver compatibility issues coming and to check before buying new hardware for use on legacy systems.

Also, it's not $150 for an OS, it's $100 and often less. I think springing for a modern OS every dozen years or so isn't a big ask for someone as involved in the tech community as you. Or how long do you think is appropriate for hardware vendors to support OS's that are 3 going on 4 generations old AND 32 bit?

While continued support is nice for the .00001% of users that still need it, in my opinion it is no longer reasonable to expect it on new products.

Just FYI, at work we have servers running Windows server 2000, and have been running since 2000 and they are some of our most stable servers. I also have windows 2000 as my OS on my primary work computer, and its my most stable box ! Newer is not always better.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Just FYI, at work we have servers running Windows server 2000, and have been running since 2000 and they are some of our most stable servers. I also have windows 2000 as my OS on my primary work computer, and its my most stable box ! Newer is not always better.

These are not typical systems that people have when buying new graphics cards. Your use scenario is a very narrow slice of a slice of the market.

 

[3DVagabond]

Can you run a 4gig card with XP32bit?

Mark, I didn't notice what drivers you were using but Cat 14-4 is the most recent XP driver.

 

[yh125d]

Just FYI, at work we have servers running Windows server 2000, and have been running since 2000 and they are some of our most stable servers. I also have windows 2000 as my OS on my primary work computer, and its my most stable box ! Newer is not always better.

Nor is stable the same as best or ideal. Windows 7/Server 2008 Are extremely stable, proven, tested OS's. If we were talking Vista or 8 you might have a point, but Windows 7 is not known for instability or compatibility issues. That you have some 14 year old hardware that is still running 14 year old software just fine does not necessitate that more modern systems aren't better.

 

[Bateluer]

Just FYI, at work we have servers running Windows server 2000, and have been running since 2000 and they are some of our most stable servers. I also have windows 2000 as my OS on my primary work computer, and its my most stable box ! Newer is not always better.

God I'm glad we've cycled out servers running Win2k out years ago. Working on getting the 2003 servers out now.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Mark just move the 290x to one of your win 7/8 system and put an Nvidia card into that system you trying to run now.

I wouldn't go as far as saying "never buy AMD again" just because of XP lack of support. Sooner or later you were bound to face problems with this and will only get worst.

Hope my idea works for you

 

[Shmee]

Mark, have you considered trying the windows 10 preview? I do not know it's compatibility with F@H, but it is free for now and may be worth a try. Should be easier than linux if that is an issue.

 

[RussianSensation]

Just FYI, at work we have servers running Windows server 2000, and have been running since 2000 and they are some of our most stable servers. I also have windows 2000 as my OS on my primary work computer, and its my most stable box ! Newer is not always better.

That is true but in case of Windows 7/8.1, both of those are better than Windows XP. Put it this way, if your kept your XP for 10 years, the cost of a new OS for you is NOT $100. The true way to calculate cost is to look at the cost of ownership in terms of time/utility. If you spend $30 for a 2 hour movie, that's a very expensive purchase. If you spend $100 on jeans that last you 5 years, that's a very cheap purchase.

If you spend $100 on a Windows 8.1 OS and it lasts you another 8-10 years, the actual cost of ownership is much lower. When you are buying a new Windows OS, you are not investing only into today but into the future of your system. Furthermore, I am pretty sure that Microsoft will provide free Windows 10 upgrades to Windows 8.1 owners -- that's a bonus for you. Blaming AMD for not supporting XP on their 290X reminds me of my friend who kept his 6-year old Asus motherboard and when XP came out, he swore to never buy Asus boards because the most his board would support was Windows 98/2000. I don't know why with age people become reluctant to embrace technology but you didn't stick to Windows 95/98 when Windows XP came out. Sooner or later you will have to get a new OS for NV and AMD. Might as well buy Windows 8.1 now, receive the free Windows 10 upgrade and have a peace of mind that for the next decade you will not have to worry about OS hampering your DC projects. You are also effectively hampering your RAM and VRAM amounts due to 32-bit OS, as well as comprising security since the OS is no longer supported.

 

[Markfw]

Mark, have you considered trying the windows 10 preview? I do not know it's compatibility with F@H, but it is free for now and may be worth a try. Should be easier than linux if that is an issue.

Can you give me a link to that ?

 

[f1sherman]

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso

 

[GLeeM]

You can drop 300+ on a modern 290X but can't spent 100 for a modern x64 OS?

If you have ten computers the cost would be $1,000. j

That $1,000 might be better spent on three GTX 970.

Distributed Computing people like to get the most for their money ... the most use out of their hardware/software.
Perhaps WinXP has reached that point
Linux would be much cheaper.
Mark, there are people on the forums that would help you with the learning curve.

The people you saw as rude ... were not that bad. The experience will make you an even better moderator :thumbsup:

 

[davie jambo]

I just read through this thread and it's quite funny

trying to run a 290x with windows xp lol

 

[KaRLiToS]

I just read through this thread and it's quite funny

trying to run a 290x with windows xp lol

Yeah and he hasn't even apologize for blaming the people. I even PMed him to tell him it is very innapropriate as a moderator and never replied.

I'm really mad at this guy honestly.


Lets quote again him after many people helped him out.

Well, I am done here. you guys are worthless for support. Yes, its an AMD card, but the documentation says it works for XP 32 bit.

Thanks for nothing.

Does not work very well for F@H. 100 pages later on installation, and they say it will work. more than just beta. I will stick to nvidia from now on.

First, this box and many other in my house do nothing but F@H,

So you are telling me that Nvidia works fine, but to use AMD I have to spend another $150 to upgrade the OS.

Please try an argument that holds water, and please try to help. not badger me.

Well. my 560ti card worked fin, and I have a 780ti that works fine. This is my first ATI card in quite a while, and I am not impressed.

Don't accuse people if you are incompetent.

 

[AnandThenMan]

trying to run a 290x with windows xp lol

But Nvidia can apparently do it so fail on AMD's part seems to be his main point. I would personally run Linux if I had several computers doing F&H it's the perfect setup for it IMO.