Yes, I still think Jesse was the main moral character of the show. Hank, well, his role wasn't that major
Yes, I still think Jesse was the main moral character of the show. Hank, well, his role wasn't that major
I still couldn't believe they shot him in the desert. I was hoping he was wearing a bulletproof vest & would crawl out later, but the more I thought about the overall plotline of the story, I knew there was no way he could know what he knew, be the kind of person he was, and still make it out alive. Same with Walt...he had to die (re: the airplane deaths, the kid in the desert, etc.).
not really sure you can blame the airplane on walt
Connected events. Walt purposely let Jane die and Jane's death caused the mistake by her father. If Walt had acted morally rather than in his own self-interest Jane lives and Donald doesn't have a meltdown. Perhaps Walt's hands were not as bloody on the airline crash as they were on Krazy-8, Gus, Mike and Tyrus, but he bears some of the responsibility.
Has anybody watched the whole show more than once? Thoughts on any subsequent views?
Yeah, it's indirect but connected. Walt changed Jesse's circumstances, which led him to live next to Jane. Then he made a decision to let Jane die when he was given the opportunity to save her. That makes him one of the dominos that knocked the whole thing over.
I blame Walt for the death of the kid in the desert. He was the project manager, thus he takes responsibility for what happened. What makes you realize he turned a corner in his life (to the darker side) is when they're cooking in the fumigated house and Jesse is watching it on TV, and Walt is whistling while he works in the background. Horrible.
This show was so great! Amazing writing. It depresses me to watch other shows because I'm like "this isn't as good as Breaking Bad" haha. I'm getting into The Black List right now.
Has anybody watched the whole show more than once? Thoughts on any subsequent views?
Certain parts and episodes are too slow to re-watch the entire show, for example the episode with the fly in the lab... If I re-watch I would fast forward a lot and skip many episodes.
Yeah, it's indirect but connected. Walt changed Jesse's circumstances, which led him to live next to Jane. Then he made a decision to let Jane die when he was given the opportunity to save her. That makes him one of the dominos that knocked the whole thing over.
I blame Walt for the death of the kid in the desert. He was the project manager, thus he takes responsibility for what happened. What makes you realize he turned a corner in his life (to the darker side) is when they're cooking in the fumigated house and Jesse is watching it on TV, and Walt is whistling while he works in the background. Horrible.
This show was so great! Amazing writing. It depresses me to watch other shows because I'm like "this isn't as good as Breaking Bad" haha. I'm getting into The Black List right now.
Yes, I went back and re-watched Season One through Season Five(a) before the final run of episodes in Five(b). It *mostly* holds up. The writing and performances are so good that you're not going to be bored. Of course a big factor was the skin of the teeth escapes for Walt/Jesse and the brilliant chess game between Walt and Gus. On the repeat viewings those lose some of their impact, but the rest is good enough that you'll enjoy yourself.
One things that improves on repeat viewings are the little clues and inside references that foreshadow what's going to happen. On the first run through a set is just a set, but on the 2nd time through you'll pick out dozens of instances where props, locations and seemingly innocuous lines and acts are placed into the story as hints of what is going to happen later on. There are at least 3 different things that foreshadow Jane's death, they're utterly inconsequential the first time through, but on replay they jump out at you.
The song Walt is whistling in that scene is "Lily of the Valley," in yet another example of how Gilligan loves interlocking details across seasons.
What were the 3 things you saw? I recently rewatched the series and I remember seeing a couple things, but I don't remember if it was 3 or not. I'm just curious what you picked up on.
When Jane is teaching Jesse to do heroin she warns him sleeping on his side so he doesn't choke if he vomits.
Right before Jane dies Walt does a scene with Holly where he puts down a cloth and turns her on her side in case she spits up.
Shortly before Jane's death she and Jesse have a scene where he says something like "I thought you were never going to wake up" and she says "Ever?"
I don't understand the Lily of the Valley reference.
The song Walt is whistling in that scene is "Lily of the Valley," in yet another example of how Gilligan loves interlocking details across seasons.
Anther foreshadowing scene for Jane's death is the art museum. The doors are symbols for change, death and rebirth.
yeah, because its awesomethis show is the source of power for a perpetual circle jerk machine.
Haha.. Even though I love this show, this made me laugh..this show is the source of power for a perpetual circle jerk machine.
this show is the source of power for a perpetual circle jerk machine.
Certain parts and episodes are too slow to re-watch the entire show, for example the episode with the fly in the lab... If I re-watch I would fast forward a lot and skip many episodes.