Breaking Bad Season 5 - Official Discussion Thread

[UberNeuman]

My speculation: The only one who comes out alive will be Walt.

The man with living with a cancer death sentence over him will be the only one left....

Everything he wanted to protect, to save - he will be the one who destroy it...

 

[MTDEW]

One consolation you have is that I'm rarely right with show predictions and doubt I will be here, lol. :$

But imho, they can't 'disrespect' this conflict either...it's been a main driver in the show to this point.

Walt could kill Hank and think its over then Marie could shoot him in the back. :biggrin:

 

[Miramonti]

Walt could kill Hank and think its over then Marie could shoot him in the back. :biggrin:

That would be cool. Or Skylar, coming out of her submissive fog just in time to do the honors.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

My speculation: The only one who comes out alive will be Walt.

I don't think so. The people involved in the show all agree that it's necessary that Walt dies at the end. Given how dark he has become I think 99% of the fans watching would want to see him die just as it appears that he's going to win. That's been one of the underlying themes of the show, the biggest Kahuna dies. Crazy Eight, Tuco, Don Eladio, Gus, Juan Bolsa, Hector Salamanca, all the guys in leadership positions die violently. Walt has to buy it too.

 

[UberNeuman]

I don't think so. The people involved in the show all agree that it's necessary that Walt dies at the end. Given how dark he has become I think 99% of the fans watching would want to see him die just as it appears that he's going to win. That's been one of the underlying themes of the show, the biggest Kahuna dies. Crazy Eight, Tuco, Don Eladio, Gus, Juan Bolsa, Hector Salamanca, all the guys in leadership positions die violently. Walt has to buy it too.

As I said it was simply speculation: however I tend to think it's already been telegraphed:

Heisenberg wins it all and in the end has nothing....

 

[Balt]

As I said it was simply speculation: however I tend to think it's already been telegraphed:

Heisenberg wins it all and in the end has nothing....

I don't know if I expect Walt to be the last man standing, but I've also had my doubts that Vince Gilligan would telegraph the end of the series so heavily. Previously he's done his best to avoid being predictable (though in the internet age that hasn't kept clever people from figuring out what's going to happen).

 

[davmat787]

I'm thinking the ultimate showdown is Walter vs. Hank. Hank has been the one to keep this investigation going, and the only one who has progressed it, and that taking him out is the only chance Walt has at walking. So he does it right before Hank closes in on him. /Breaking Bad

I would be disappointed if there was not some sort of confrontational between Walt and Hank for the reasons you layout above. Does not have to be the death of Walt, but their relationship at odds has been one of the main storylines and sources of tension from the first few minutes of the S1E1.

Maybe Walt will messup and go full Heisenburg with the hat and goatee in front of Hank. I am pretty sure Hank had seen a sketch of that image before.

 

[Wingznut]

For all those saying that Walt's progression is too quick... Remember, he believes he has nothing to live for, except his "empire."

Also, he knows that his days are numbered due to the cancer, and he's not afraid of death.

As a matter of fact, in Season One, he talked about not wanting to waste away in a hospital bed. I think that there's a big part of him that wouldn't mind dying via another method than cancer eating away at him.

 

[Kev]

I agree with the speedy progression issue, which is similar in nature to a previous reply I made. It doesn't feel realistic to me given Walt's makeup. In addition to his new ring-leader persona, now he simply tells his wife the way it is and that's that, oblivious and/or unconcerned where she's at. For someone that's tiptoed his whole life, that probably sticks out like a sore thumb the most.

I keep seeing this "Walt's progressing too quickly" argument and I just don't buy it. The guy is a narcissistic megalomaniac who keeps having his deluded self image as a powerful leader reinforced. He took out the biggest drug kingpin in the country single-handedly. He "won." He is the man. He does what he wants now. His wife is going to complain? What is she going to do about it? He controls her, he controls everything, at least in his mind.

And all the killings and deaths he has caused are things that he CAN rationalize to himself, as being necessary to protect himself.

 

[Skel]

I would be disappointed if there was not some sort of confrontational between Walt and Hank for the reasons you layout above. Does not have to be the death of Walt, but their relationship at odds has been one of the main storylines and sources of tension from the first few minutes of the S1E1.

Maybe Walt will messup and go full Heisenburg with the hat and goatee in front of Hank. I am pretty sure Hank had seen a sketch of that image before.

That's my guess. They keep obsessing on the hat, and they've shown Hank looking at that sketch a few times. To me it's just a matter of when.

 

[AdamK47]

Mike isn't dead. He's just pretending.

 

[darkxshade]

I forsee a rolling snowball effect. My prediction is that Hank finds out the truth but will confront Walt about it first personally[your typical "turn yourself in" talk]. This gives Walt the [only]oppotunity to off Hank since he knows he won't let him get away it. Skylar will find out her brother is dead and will suspect Walt is involved, this will push her over the edge. Walt knows this and is forced to kill her too, prob with the ricin he has stashed away. Jesse somehow finds out Skylar dies of ricin and since supposedly Walt flushed it will set off alarms regarding the Brock event. He ends up killing Walt.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Mike isn't dead. He's just pretending.

I think Walt is smart enough to know to remove any evidence from Mike's body. That, and he had a gun on him and could have shot Walt if he had any strength left.

 

[HopJokey]

I forsee a rolling snowball effect. My prediction is that Hank finds out the truth but will confront Walt about it first personally[your typical "turn yourself in" talk]. This gives Walt the [only]oppotunity to off Hank since he knows he won't let him get away it. Skylar will find out her brother is dead and will suspect Walt is involved, this will push her over the edge. Walt knows this and is forced to kill her too, prob with the ricin he has stashed away. Jesse somehow finds out Skylar dies of ricin and since supposedly Walt flushed it will set off alarms regarding the Brock event. He ends up killing Walt.

Hank isn't Skylar's brother. Marie is her sister and Hank is married to her (making him Skylar's brother-in-law).

 

[wirednuts]

isnt there one more season after this one though? plenty of time for walt to go international before he gets axed by obama

 

[KLin]

isnt there one more season after this one though? plenty of time for walt to go international before he gets axed by obama

Part 2 of season 5. Next episode is the last episode of part 1.

 

[darkxshade]

Hank isn't Skylar's brother. Marie is her sister and Hank is married to her (making him Skylar's brother-in-law).

Thanks for the correction, I wasn't too clear on who's related to who and not too bothered to check but my theory still stands up since they're related.

 

[wirednuts]

Part 2 of season 5. Next episode is the last episode of part 1.

oh. well thats cool cause the story is getting pretty whack. its getting close to going too far.

 

[Skel]

Hank isn't Skylar's brother. Marie is her sister and Hank is married to her (making him Skylar's brother-in-law).

I thought that was the other way around, that Hank was the brother and Marie was the sister in law

 

[Smoblikat]

oh. well thats cool cause the story is getting pretty whack. its getting close to going too far.

I dont think so, the whole skylar thing neds to end soon though. I think its just walts desperation thats driving the whole thing to insanity........look at what he did to mike for no reason.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I thought that was the other way around, that Hank was the brother and Marie was the sister in law

Negative.

 

[BladeVenom]

Previously he's done his best to avoid being predictable (though in the internet age that hasn't kept clever people from figuring out what's going to happen).

The show has gotten predictable. You know something is always going to go wrong.

 

[davmat787]

I dont think so, the whole skylar thing neds to end soon though. I think its just walts desperation thats driving the whole thing to insanity........look at what he did to mike for no reason.

For no reason? Couldn't "The Nine" who will no longer be paid off, fingered Mike, who is hot anyway, who could then give up Walt? With Mike out of the picture, I don't think "The Nine" could lead to Walt. Could be mistaken of course, but I don't think any of them knew Walt by name.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

For no reason? Couldn't "The Nine" who will no longer be paid off, fingered Mike, who is hot anyway, who could then give up Walt? With Mike out of the picture, I don't think "The Nine" could lead to Walt. Could be mistaken of course, but I don't think any of them knew Walt by name.

It kind of depends what they were doing for Mike, which has never been clearly fleshed out. As far as I know Chow was the only one of them we ever actually saw on duty, running the chemical warehouse. It would not appear he would know who Walt is. I've always wondered about the workers who packaged up the blue meth and put it in the chicken batter containers - we don't know their names but they have definitely seen Walt and Jesse, and could potentially lead the authorities to them.

 

[PottedMeat]

It kind of depends what they were doing for Mike, which has never been clearly fleshed out. As far as I know Chow was the only one of them we ever actually saw on duty, running the chemical warehouse. It would not appear he would know who Walt is. I've always wondered about the workers who packaged up the blue meth and put it in the chicken batter containers - we don't know their names but they have definitely seen Walt and Jesse, and could potentially lead the authorities to them.

I think all we've seen are Chow at the chemical warehouse and the laundry manager ( who gomez talked to ). I'd bet the manager has at least seen walt & jesse.