Breaking Bad Season 5 - Official Discussion Thread

[Meractik]

Wasn't impressed (spoilers):

-Slow paced as hell. The first 40 mins were pretty much nothing. The slow 10-minute opening for the sake of being 'artistic' was lame. But I also understand they have 8 episodes to fill.

-Whiny Jess seems forced and out of character just to use him as a plot device.

-Skylar's character makes absolutely ZERO sense. I still don't get wtf she wants. She was mad at him for being the biggest druglord of the Southwest. But she's okay because he pulled out? And they live happily ever after with the blood money? She knows Walter killed Gus Fring, that headline hospital explosion. That means she must also know Walter directly killed no less than 10 people. WTF? Very very inconsistent.

-Why would Walter go out of his way to give a heart-felt 'I didn't kill Mike' talk to Jesse? He could've just shrugged it off. It feels like another forced device where Jesse can explode on him.

Season 1-3 was the best. Everything made perfect sense back then and his slow corruption & his efforts to dodge his family were amazing.

While I agree with some of this... its only the first episode of the last 8, they need to build up to something.. like the opening with his house all decomposing where he sneaks in to get the ricin... then the neighbor freaks out when he says hi, makes one wonder... what happens to get to that point?

 

[Rudee]

We will see an ending where Lydia dies at the hands of Walter. Or at least that's what we are initially led to believe, only to be clued in at a cliffhanger that gives viewers evidence that it was not Walter who killed Lydia, but Skylar! Ricin? There is a reason why Skylar's character has turned cold and unemotional. They are setting up viewers for a Skylar shocker.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

We will see an ending where Lydia dies at the hands of Walter. Or at least that's what we are initially led to believe, only to be clued in at a cliffhanger that gives viewers evidence that it was not Walter who killed Lydia, but Skylar! Ricin? There is a reason why Skylar's character has turned cold and unemotional. They are setting up viewers for a Skylar shocker.

I take it that Lydia, in approaching Walt, feels she is in danger because her customers are unsatisfied with the product (presumably cooked by Todd). The most mortal danger to her and Walt may come from her connections overseas rather than law enforcement.

 

[Anubis]

I take it that Lydia, in approaching Walt, feels she is in danger because her customers are unsatisfied with the product (presumably cooked by Todd). The most mortal danger to her and Walt may come from her connections overseas rather than law enforcement.

this is what i thought when they started shipping over there, Explains the need for the m60 as i really dont see Walt going out in a blaze of glory with the cops/DEA

 

[Zeze]

Sorry guys.

I guess I need to watch some key parts again.

 

[Printer Bandit]

Sorry guys.

I guess I need to watch some key parts again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlK-WXJ-pQ

 

[Rudee]

I take it that Lydia, in approaching Walt, feels she is in danger because her customers are unsatisfied with the product (presumably cooked by Todd). The most mortal danger to her and Walt may come from her connections overseas rather than law enforcement.

The confrontation between Skylar and Lydia on Sunday's episode was too obvious. It's a redirection from the real shocker that will take place during the finale: The death of Hank. And Hanks death won't be Walter's doing this time, if you know what I'm eluding to.

 

[PottedMeat]

Breaking Bad Insider Podcast for Episode 509 "Blood Money"

Kelley Dixon, Vince Gilligan, Bryan Cranston, Peter Gould, Michelle MacLaren, Melissa Bernstein

http://media.amctv.com/breakingbad/podcasts/bb-509-podcast.mp3

 

[MH2007]

TBH this show isnt that bad
i happen to like the 2 main actors introduced so far and the chief is from castle

Low Winter Sun looks like it will a pretty decent show. The acting at least is very strong. Lennie James is a British actor that is not as well known here but some people in this thread might remember him as Morgan from The Walking Dead. (He helped out Rick in the pilot where his wife had been zombified and Rick met him again when they went back to his hometown to scavenge for weapons.)

The Captain (no the Chief) is also a very underrated actor. He was one of the best parts of Castle before he left and the new Captain is kind of just there. The writing so far to me seems pretty meh, I'll at least watch for a bit to see how the show goes.

 

[MH2007]

I take it that Lydia, in approaching Walt, feels she is in danger because her customers are unsatisfied with the product (presumably cooked by Todd). The most mortal danger to her and Walt may come from her connections overseas rather than law enforcement.

I'm guessing the pressure is coming from Declan (the Arizona guy) or his superiors (possibly the new main cartel in Mexico). I think back when Mike and Jesse met Declan in the desert with the gallon of methylamine he mentions he had to pull some strings to work out funding for the 666 gallon methylamine buyout.

Laura Fraser (Lydia) and Jesse Plemons (Todd) have been elevated to main cast status so I think those two (under pressure from Declan and the cartel) are going to be Walt's main immediate danger (with possible aid from Todd's uncle and his henchmen). Obviously the overseas connections are dangerous as well but as Lydia said putting 6000 miles between you and your product has its benefits.

 

[MH2007]

One thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned is that Walt dropped the GPS tracker on the floor when Hank hit him. He has it in his hand and briefly after Hank hits him you can see the GPS tracker on the ground for less than a second. (It's in a beam of sunlight from a high garage window and is quickly shrouded in the shadows when the boxes go tumbling.)

I thought it was very strange because it wasn't bouncing around like you would expect it would after being dropped.

But Hank is obviously going to retrieve it since it's going to be plainly visible when the garage door is open. He'll see that Walt has visited Saul and Jesse. Will Hank be able to turn Jesse against Walt? (Jesse obviously knows that Walt was involved in Mike's death) However, the last time Hank went hard at Jesse it turned out disastrously for Hank so he would have to figure out a different way to flip Jesse if he decides to try.

 

[Anubis]

Low Winter Sun looks like it will a pretty decent show. The acting at least is very strong. Lennie James is a British actor that is not as well known here but some people in this thread might remember him as Morgan from The Walking Dead. (He helped out Rick in the pilot where his wife had been zombified and Rick met him again when they went back to his hometown to scavenge for weapons.)

The Captain (no the Chief) is also a very underrated actor. He was one of the best parts of Castle before he left and the new Captain is kind of just there. The writing so far to me seems pretty meh, I'll at least watch for a bit to see how the show goes.

Lennie James was also in Snatch and Jericho which people may also notice him from as well as a ton of other things Mark Strong is also a great actor who has been in a lot of things as well

 

[MetalMat]

I know its a little off topic but I was talking about the past seasons of Breaking Bad with some buddies today. I love the show but I brought up the fact that it did have some pretty lame parts.

- Airplane collision plot line. Seemed forced & out of place. After taking so much time & effort in season 2 for the buildup it turned out to be pretty forgettable.

- Intro of Tuco's cousins. The whole "artsy" angle was just weird.

- Andrea & Jesse. I never felt that the 2 characters meshed well and the relationship was forced for the sole reason of the son/ricin plot. Jesse & Jane seemed like a much better matchup

- Marie. She was so fucking annoying in the earlier seasons and the whole shoplifiting thing with her was lame as hell. To the shows credit she has become much more tolerable as of late.

 

[SsupernovaE]

Anybody notice Walt folds the towel and puts it under his knees when he throws up? Gus did the same when he threw up the poison in Mexico. And how after he killed Crazy 8, he removes the crust from his sandwiches.

Maybe he picks up behaviors from his victims and the bacon 52 he makes in episode 1 means he killed (or will kill) Skylar.

 

[purbeast0]

Anybody notice Walt folds the towel and puts it under his knees when he throws up? Gus did the same when he threw up the poison in Mexico. And how after he killed Crazy 8, he removes the crust from his sandwiches.

Maybe he picks up behaviors from his victims and the bacon 52 he makes in episode 1 means he killed (or will kill) Skylar.

but he wasn't there when gus put the towel down and puked, so i don't really see how that could be any relevance. whereas he sees skylar do the bacon thing.

i did think about how he did it just like gus did, but i just didn't try to connect any dots like that.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Anybody notice Walt folds the towel and puts it under his knees when he throws up? Gus did the same when he threw up the poison in Mexico. And how after he killed Crazy 8, he removes the crust from his sandwiches.

Maybe he picks up behaviors from his victims and the bacon 52 he makes in episode 1 means he killed (or will kill) Skylar.

This was on Reddit yesterday. I think it is extremely likely that he kills her. The flash forwards show a man with no real connections, a ruined home, and a neighbor who is scared of him. I'm guessing Hank doesn't turn him in for some reason (maybe death) and Walt gets involved in cooking again with the one lady. Skylar eventually discovers that he is cooking again and/or that he killed Hank. She turns him in and he kills her and runs. I'm not sure who he's coming back to kill with the gun and poison, though. Maybe the drug trade people who somehow forced him back into cooking? Maybe they hurt/killed Walt Jr. and threatened his baby/wife to force him back in.

 

[Udgnim]

start of Season 5 was also slow

this first episode for 2nd half of S5 while "slow" was fast enough for me in that Hank & Walt both exposed each other in the first episode so things should start moving in ensuing episodes

 

[BrokenVisage]

However, the last time Hank went hard at Jesse it turned out disastrously for Hank so he would have to figure out a different way to flip Jesse if he decides to try.

It was only disastrous BECAUSE of Walt, Hank now knows that Walt triggered the course of events that caused him to lose Jesse at the junkyard and afterwards to pummel him for thinking he tricked him about Marie getting in a car accident. If Hank realizes this he should understand that Jesse was essentially working for Walt, not the other way around, and might pay him a visit. It's not like he moved or anything, it will be all about how much resentment Jesse still has for being beat up against how much he distrusts Walt.

 

[SsupernovaE]

Does Jessie know that Walt let Jane die?

 

[Anubis]

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...miere-breaks-ratings-record-article-1.1424734

 

[Anubis]

Does Jessie know that Walt let Jane die?

no

 

[SsupernovaE]

That could be what sends Jessie over the edge then.

 

[ultimatebob]

That could be what sends Jessie over the edge then.

Or if he poisoned that kid with Lily of the Valley, or if he finds proof that he killed Mike, or...

Seriously, Walt has done some really f'ed up stuff to that kid over the entire series

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Breaking Bad Insider Podcast for Episode 509 "Blood Money"

Kelley Dixon, Vince Gilligan, Bryan Cranston, Peter Gould, Michelle MacLaren, Melissa Bernstein

http://media.amctv.com/breakingbad/podcasts/bb-509-podcast.mp3

Thanks for this link - I had been waiting for this to pop up in iTunes but it is still not up. Always very interesting to hear about their creative process.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Does Jessie know that Walt let Jane die?

Not yet. You have to figure that sometime soon Jesse is going to find out what Walt did with Jane, Brock and Mike. Those secrets are too big to take to the grave, they've got to come into play somehow.