Breaking Bad Season 5 - Official Discussion Thread

[Vdubchaos]

No, Jesse genuinely hates Walt now.

But he will always be as unpredictable as ever.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Let's go ahead and do a full prediction for the rest of the series:
1. Hank and Gomez are killed by Aryan guys.
2. Jesse escapes and eventually connects with local police or other DEA agents.
3. Aryan guys force Walt back into cooking. They use his family as collateral.
4. Walt escapes and gets his family out, with the money. They relocate with Skylar probably taking the kids somewhere away from him.
5. Police/DEA/general public are aware of Walt's lifestyle.
6. Aryan guys and/or the big time drug lady's people find Walt's family. Note: I'm not 100% sure on the timeline. We know he's coming back with a machine gun on his 52nd birthday. His 51st birthday happened in episode 4 of season 5. How long ago was that in show time?
7. Walt is heading back to New Mexico to take out Aryans/drug lady and protect his family.

I think this is the point where we have NO information to make predictions, so this is entirely a guess:

8. Walt does what it takes to save his family, including killing anyone in his way. He is injured during the fight, but survives. Police/DEA show up and Jesse turns state's witness on him. The final scene is Walt smiling and looking at a picture of his family in a prison cell and coughing bloody phlegm into a handkerchief.

 

[Rudee]

I still say Skylar is going to break bad and kill somebody before it's all over.

When Walt bolted from work when he got that call, perhaps Skylar jumped in her car and followed him. Perhaps Skylar will show up and get the keys and unlock the cuffs from Walt. Possibly shoot Jesse too.

 

[skipsneeky2]

No doubt Hank will at least die in this shootout,Hank won't be alive as if he was the only one left his hard on for Walter would be harder then ever and we know Walter is free on his 52nd birthday so something has to happen to Hank very soon unless Hank becomes a vegetable again and that is why Walter wants to use the ricin?

The cliffhanger for that last episode was just wow.This show has so many ways of ending it isn't even funny and to think there is only 3 episodes left wow,ones mind can go crazy contemplating all the different endings for this show.

 

[purbeast0]

I still say Skylar is going to break bad and kill somebody before it's all over.

When Hank bolted from work when he got that call, perhaps Skylar jumped in her car and followed him. Perhaps Skylar will show up and get the keys and unlock the cuffs from Hank. Possibly shoot Jesse too.

wtf you called walt hank, not once, but twice!

 

[Rudee]

wtf you called walt hank, not once, but twice!

Doh! Fixed.

 

[GlacierFreeze]

Who spray paints "Heisenberg" in his future abandoned house? Not that important but just for fun to guess I suppose. Hmmmm lol

Only one that at least somewhat makes sense is Jesse.

Why would Hank, even if he were to survive? Doesn't fit that character's typical reactions.

Assuming Hank dies, possibly Maria?

Extremely broken and bitter Walt Jr. when he finds out the truth??

 

[mugs]

Doh! Fixed.

Skyler

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Who spray paints "Heisenberg" in his future abandoned house? Not that important but just for fun to guess I suppose. Hmmmm lol

Only one that at least somewhat makes sense is Jesse.

Why would Hank, even if he were to survive? Doesn't fit that character's typical reactions.

Assuming Hank dies, possibly Maria?

Extremely broken and bitter Walt Jr. when he finds out the truth??

Doesn't fit Jesse's reactions either. Or Marie's. Or Walt Jr's. What it fits is a bunch of teenagers that break into the abandoned house to use the pool as a skateboard park. Of all the things remaining to unfold in the last three episodes who paints 'Heisenberg' on the wall of the house is about 571st in order of importance.

 

[Number1]

Here we go.

Walt called back the goons but they showed up anyway.

How can he be blamed for the consequences? They kill Hanks and Gomez for sure.

Jessee? He lives, but why?

3 episodes to go...


OMG don't let it be so.

 

[Phoenix86]

6. Aryan guys and/or the big time drug lady's people find Walt's family. Note: I'm not 100% sure on the timeline. We know he's coming back with a machine gun on his 52nd birthday. His 51st birthday happened in episode 4 of season 5. How long ago was that in show time?

1 Year. :hmm:

What do I win?

 

[Gunslinger08]

1 Year. :hmm:

What do I win?

From where we are now (the shootout), smartass.

 

[Xstatic1]

Seemed like there were a couple things in that dialogue that suggested Hank gets killed - the whole phone call was gratuitous 'love you' stuff adding to the impact of a shooting.

Yup!

Skyler can make a full on turn around, go kill Marie. For once I wouldn't want her to end up in a white barrel.

I'm thinkin' Marie will try to poison someone (if Hank's dead).

Jesse will find a way to weasel out unharmed and ruin things for Walt again down the line.

If Hank & Gomez are the only ones who die, he may have a change of attitude since Walt knows he betrayed him.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

From where we are now (the shootout), smartass.

Unknown. We know that on Walt's 51st birthday Mike is alive and the three are still working together. On Walt's 52nd birthday it's all turned to shit and Walt is buying an M-60 and retrieving ricin to kill multiple people. How far along we are in that one year gap is not explained by the storyline. But we do know that after Mike got whacked Walt and Lydia set up a European distribution network and Walt made so much money that he retired. That didn't happen overnight, so let's call it a minimum of 6 or 7 months. Since Walt retired at least another month or two had to have passed for Todd to start cooking, Todd to fuck up and get replaced, another cook to take over, that cook to do so badly that the Euro cartel notices a big enough quality drop over time to want the new cook gone and Lydia to orchestrate a move by using the Aryans to eliminate Declan's group. That's a whole lot that has happened since Walt's 51st birthday. So we have to be at least Walt 51 years + 8 or 9 months at this point and even that seems to be stretching belief. Whatever happens between the shootout and Walt at 52 better happen fast. The next two episodes are titled "Ozymandias" and "Granite State", that's a pretty good clue. Ozymandias will see the complete fall of Walt's empire and Granite State will cover how/why he winds up in New Hampshire and what brings him back to New Mexico.

 

[CA19100]

Skyler can make a full on turn around, go kill Marie. For once I wouldn't want her to end up in a white barrel.

Please, it's Marie.


The barrel would be purple.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Please, it's Marie.


The barrel would be purple.

The barrel would be white, but the sludge would be purple.

 

[CA19100]

The barrel would be white, but the sludge would be purple.

Ewwwwwwww...

 

[morkus64]

Walt intervenes to end the shooting (beats his head against the glass to break the window, perhaps?).

Either that or the smoke monster shows up.

 

[GlacierFreeze]

Doesn't fit Jesse's reactions either. Or Marie's. Or Walt Jr's. What it fits is a bunch of teenagers that break into the abandoned house to use the pool as a skateboard park. Of all the things remaining to unfold in the last three episodes who paints 'Heisenberg' on the wall of the house is about 571st in order of importance.

Even my own post said it's not important. Duhhh. Just something to guess about for fun.

And those skateboarders won't even know who or what Heisenberg is...

 

[GagHalfrunt]

And those skateboarders won't even know who Heisenberg is... lol.

WTF did you pull that little factoid from? Nevermind, better to not know.

The skateboarders wouldn't know who Heisenberg is NOW, but they probably would a few months from now which is where they are in the show's timeline. Heisenberg's empire ends in a pile of rubble, it's not too hard to imagine that something made the news.

 

[Booty]

So we have to be at least Walt 51 years + 8 or 9 months at this point and even that seems to be stretching belief. Whatever happens between the shootout and Walt at 52 better happen fast.

I was thinking about it more like this... the flash-forward scene shows Walt with a full head of hair. So however long it takes to grow that much hair (I'd think at least a couple months)... but that would still line up with your estimate I think. He has to be 2-4 month shy of turning 52 right now.

In terms of the Heisenberg graffiti - well, regardless of who sprayed it, it tells us that his identity becomes public. My guess would be that Hank and Gomez die... and that Marie is the one who reveals all the details. Once Hank's gone I don't think Jesse will go back to the police again... the AB wouldn't let it happen. Maybe he ends up as their new cook. Who knows. I doubt they'd kill Jesse off before the final episode, though.

Fun to speculate!

 

[NuclearNed]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Hank does *not* die in the shootout. BB has a tendency to build up the storyline in ways that in other shows would have only one possible, predictable outcome, and then somehow find a way to go in a completely different direction. So Hank 1) finally catches Walt, & 2) has the "I love you" talk with his wife. In any other cop drama, these are sure signs Hank is a dead man. Since the writers of BB obviously delight in surprising their audience, I have to wonder if they have led everyone down this well-trod path just to find a way to pull the rug out from under everyone in the next episode.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Hank does *not* die in the shootout. BB has a tendency to build up the storyline in ways that in other shows would have only one possible, predictable outcome, and then somehow find a way to go in a completely different direction. So Hank 1) finally catches Walt, & 2) has the "I love you" talk with his wife. In any other cop drama, these are sure signs Hank is a dead man. Since the writers of BB obviously delight in surprising their audience, I have to wonder if they have led everyone down this well-trod path just to find a way to pull the rug out from under everyone in the next episode.

Very possible. The conversation between Hank and Marie was just way too big a cliche for BB to use, it so dramatically and clearly points to Hank dying that Hank probably lives. Which is what led me to think that maybe Walt gets the ricin to use on Hank as a mercy killing. Hank is shot up to the point where he has no quality of life and Walt gives him a peaceful way out.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Let's go ahead and do a full prediction for the rest of the series:

Mine goes a little bit differently

1. Hank and Gomez are killed by Aryan guys.
2. Aryan guy wants to kill Jesse to complete his deal with Walt so Walt will cook
3. Walt says he won't cook if they kill Jesse (think Gus all over again)
4. Aryan guy just takes Jesse and forces him to cook
5. Marie goes to the DEA and/or tries to kill Walt
6. Walt disappears to N.H.
7. Walt is heading back to New Mexico to take out Aryans/drug lady and to rescue Jesse
8. Walt does what it takes to save his family, including killing anyone in his way. He is injured during the fight, but survives. Police/DEA show up. The final scene is Walt smiling and looking at a picture of his family in a prison cell and coughing bloody phlegm into a handkerchief and then taking the ricin himself that he was able to smuggle into jail.

 

[Printer Bandit]

Mine goes a little bit differently

1. Hank and Gomez are killed by Aryan guys.
2. Aryan guy wants to kill Jesse to complete his deal with Walt so Walt will cook
3. Walt says he won't cook if they kill Jesse (think Gus all over again)
4. Aryan guy just takes Jesse and forces him to cook
5. Marie goes to the DEA and/or tries to kill Walt
6. Walt disappears to N.H.
7. Walt is heading back to New Mexico to take out Aryans/drug lady and to rescue Jesse
8. Walt does what it takes to save his family, including killing anyone in his way. He is injured during the fight, but survives. Police/DEA show up. The final scene is Walt smiling and looking at a picture of his family in a prison cell and coughing bloody phlegm into a handkerchief and then taking the ricin himself that he was able to smuggle into jail.