Breaking Bad Season 5 - Official Discussion Thread

[BladeVenom]

sadly it was predictable. The only surprise was the poison for me.

Lydia always asking for stevia, made that the most obvious end for her.

 

[Proprioceptive]

The West Wing - Two Cathedrals.

Taste... you clearly have it.

 

[Rudee]

So, Walt somehow turned into MacGyver and came up with that M60 contraption? Pleeeeeeeeease. That wasn't the least bit believable. He's a chemistry genious, not MacGyver.

 

[KLin]

So, Walt somehow turned into MacGyver and came up with that M60 contraption? Pleeeeeeeeease. That wasn't the least bit believable. He's a chemistry genious, not MacGyver.

1. He installed a tankless water heater in their house by himself
2. He built a meth lab in an RV
3. He built a bomb and rigged it to a wheelchair.

For me it was believable.

 

[Perknose]

Breaking Bad. What a great ride it's been.

The song of the great man will forever be sung.

 

[Wingznut]

So, Walt somehow turned into MacGyver and came up with that M60 contraption? Pleeeeeeeeease. That wasn't the least bit believable. He's a chemistry genious, not MacGyver.

1. He installed a tankless water heater in their house by himself
2. He built a meth lab in an RV
3. He built a bomb and rigged it to a wheelchair.

For me it was believable.

Plus the magnet setup to kill the laptop in evidence lockup. Plus he used a coffee maker to escape being restrained to a radiator. Plus he rigged up a battery to start the dead RV. Plus a few other things.
Walt is incredibly smart (which is an understatement), have you not seen the whole show, Rudee?

And on that note, I think it was genius on the writers' part to have his plan executed in this way. I always thought that if he charged in with gun in hand, it would totally be out of character. The contraption was perfect.

 

[Abraxas]

Very good episode, the more I think about it the more I like it which is unusual for me. The machine gun did kind of press my capacity to suspend disbelief but on the whole it was solid.

One moment I absolutely love was, whether intentional or not, a wonderful homage to Babylon 5 and the greatest series finale in the history of finales. Spoilers for those who haven't seen Babylon 5 (which means you should be off watching that and not reading this).

Another spoiler warning.

Last chance.

Okay, the scene in which Walt is in the house, abandoned by those who once made it a home, and he looks into the corner and in his minds eye he sees the events that set his current course into motion one last time before he goes to face his death. Cut to present. Very similar to in Babylon 5 where Sheridan returns to Babylon 5 one last time, to find it abandoned and as he tours the station he finds a walkway where his current doom was set into motion. He sees himself as he was and then boom, in a flash everyone and everything is gone again and he is (almost) alone.

Given the shout out to Babylon 5 a couple episodes back I have to think it was intentional but if not it was still a beautiful parallel. I am going to miss this show.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

The ending couldnt have been better, it just felt absolutely right

I cant wait for Better Call Saul, Saul is one of my favorite characters and Im so glad they decided to do a spin off with him

 

[SSSnail]

Walter White is a colossal dumb ass.

Wait, did I spoil that for anybody?

 

[Zeze]

What a run. Unlike the recent movie/TV trend of leaving shit ambiguously with lots of loose ends, Vince neatly tied everything up. That in itself was refreshing.

I guess I really can't complain especially compared to lots of crappy writing out there. But if I were to nitpick:

-I have no problem with Walt making the machine gun contraption. BUT it was an awful gamble to park the car just perfectly (and the goons allow him to do so), aim the gun just right at the right angle and height, all the gang line up perfectly in the living room, and everyone dies neatly. All that together is quite a stretch for me- more stretch than anything else within BB universe.

-The last time Walt met Skyler was when they were both freaking the FVCK out with the knife. Skyler was absolutely done with Walt's evil ways. Suddenly Skyler was calmly receptive to listen to Walt when he showed up at her door? Walt could easily slip inside Skyler's home past the police protection? Why wasn't Skyler's home tapped with recording? Meh, the only plausible explanation is that considerable time has passed since Walt first escaped Albuquerque (few months?). So things aren't as hot anymore so they loosened the leash with Skyler.

The finale itself wasn't that amazing imo. When it finished, I was just like.. "What a great series.. and it ended." The best mind-rush of BB were the episodes dealing with Gus.

 

[Zeze]

You really didn't think Ozymandias was the best of the series?

Ozymandias was the best episode of anything ever.

I don't see the big hype about this.

That episode was just okay. The best episodes come from the time when BB was at its highest peak- the Gus saga.

I think the best episode was when Gus died. He was an amazing villain. And Walt was still just a wet-behind-the-ear-scared-shitless average guy. When he finally kills him, you could see he has finally turned a new leaf. And that very phone call he made to Skyler while she watched the explosion coverage is one of the best moment in TV history- "I won, Skyler."

 

[Zeze]

practical explanation: way back when, they did a promo where walt was not wearing a watch at the breakfast where he made the 52 with bacon so for the sage of continuity, they had to find a way where he dumped the watch.

Artsy explanation: symbolic of walt's time coming to an end.

Also that bad ass luxury watch is a symbol of Walt's drug kingpin days. He's going back to redeem himself.

 

[ultimatebob]

The only big loose end I see here is Jesse... His DNA and prints are all over that meth lab crime scene, and his character is too dumb to successfully hide from the DEA for long.

 

[gorcorps]

Also that bad ass luxury watch is a symbol of Walt's drug kingpin days. He's going back to redeem himself.

I hate when people make so much out of about nothing. Especially when the creator of the friggin show explained it was for continuity. The over analysis of this show has been astounding.

 

[Zeze]

I hate when people make so much out of about nothing. Especially when the creator of the friggin show explained it was for continuity. The over analysis of this show has been astounding.

What's wrong with fan interpretations? That's the beauty of media.

It wasn't some far fetched irrelevant fantasy crap. Walt taking off his luxury watch off to go back and redeem himself is a perfectly appropriate interpretation, whether the author meant it or not.

The author doesn't always dictate his work. That's the beauty of movies, books, and TV.

 

[Zeze]

Spoilers (really, you can't blame me when you come to the last page of this thread after the finale)

Jesse's license plate said "Live free or die". Jesse lived free, Walt died.

 

[Anubis]

What a run. Unlike the recent movie/TV trend of leaving shit ambiguously with lots of loose ends, Vince neatly tied everything up. That in itself was refreshing.

I guess I really can't complain especially compared to lots of crappy writing out there. But if I were to nitpick:

-I have no problem with Walt making the machine gun contraption. BUT it was an awful gamble to park the car just perfectly (and the goons allow him to do so), aim the gun just right at the right angle and height, all the gang line up perfectly in the living room, and everyone dies neatly. All that together is quite a stretch for me- more stretch than anything else within BB universe.

-The last time Walt met Skyler was when they were both freaking the FVCK out with the knife. Skyler was absolutely done with Walt's evil ways. Suddenly Skyler was calmly receptive to listen to Walt when he showed up at her door? Walt could easily slip inside Skyler's home past the police protection? Why wasn't Skyler's home tapped with recording? Meh, the only plausible explanation is that considerable time has passed since Walt first escaped Albuquerque (few months?). So things aren't as hot anymore so they loosened the leash with Skyler.

The finale itself wasn't that amazing imo. When it finished, I was just like.. "What a great series.. and it ended." The best mind-rush of BB were the episodes dealing with Gus.

parking yes, aiming no, all it has to do is put bullets between 3-5 feet from the ground and it will hit pretty much anyone who is sitting or standing based on the avg height of people. pretty easy to figure that one out. the magnet to whipe the hard drive was a bigger stretch

as for skyler part of her still loves walt, and she wants some sort of closure thats all she is giving him 5 min to come clean/ tell the truth and apologize not unreasonable for that to happen.

slipping past the DEA or whatever is a larger stretch but as she honestly had no fing idea where walt was they might not have been on her that much, for all we know that one car we saw out front was just sent there that day because he was spotted in town

 

[PottedMeat]

Spoilers (really, you can't

blame it for coming to the last page of this thread after the finale)

couldn't help but think 'damn elliot has really big fuckin' ears'

 

[Phoenix86]

-I have no problem with Walt making the machine gun contraption. BUT it was an awful gamble to park the car just perfectly (and the goons allow him to do so), aim the gun just right at the right angle and height, all the gang line up perfectly in the living room, and everyone dies neatly. All that together is quite a stretch for me- more stretch than anything else within BB universe.

It was hardly perfect, Todd lived, Todd's uncle didn't die outright, and Walt got shot.

 

[skipsneeky2]

My new desktop wallpaper.:awe:

 

[Murloc]

I think this ending was fine, it gives enough closure and compared to the shit I've seen it's good.

Jesse fled from the scene of abduction, but maybe he cuts a deal and stuff. Apart for this, the rest is cleaned up.

 

[MarkXIX]

Meh, the only plausible explanation is that considerable time has passed since Walt first escaped Albuquerque (few months?). So things aren't as hot anymore so they loosened the leash with Skyler.

That was depicted by his hair growth, so yes, considerable time passed.

 

[Gibsons]

That was depicted by his hair growth, so yes, considerable time passed.

Also, they set it up with Marie's phone call. Walt had been setting up false reports all over town, distracting them.

 

[Jadow]

Plus the magnet setup to kill the laptop in evidence lockup. Plus he used a coffee maker to escape being restrained to a radiator. Plus he rigged up a battery to start the dead RV. Plus a few other things.
Walt is incredibly smart (which is an understatement), have you not seen the whole show, Rudee?

And on that note, I think it was genius on the writers' part to have his plan executed in this way. I always thought that if he charged in with gun in hand, it would totally be out of character. The contraption was perfect.

he also figured out how to open the Miller Lite Punch Top Can without creating a big tear.

 

[MarkXIX]

I think this ending was fine, it gives enough closure and compared to the shit I've seen it's good.

Jesse fled from the scene of abduction, but maybe he cuts a deal and stuff. Apart for this, the rest is cleaned up.

I think Jesse gets off nearly completely. Remember that he was helping the DEA heavily before Ozymandias episode and before he was in effect abducted and forced to continue cooking meth.