Breaking- Church shooting in TX

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Younigue

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I said this in another post but I've really been thinking about the concept most americans think about as "Freedom" after all these shootings. What the hell does it really mean anymore? Freedom to buy and use guns, but worry about being shot when in public?
That's where it appears to be heading. Take away all other rights but leave the guns! Gotta leave that option open for them to kill all those people whose rights were stripped 'cause they're worth hating [insert stupid reason here], All Of Them!

Won't America be something to look upon once it's All White Men (the right kind I'm assuming)? The good news is that they will die out in a single generation.
 
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They're the talking points the_donald's mentally defunct followers have decided to shit out. Evidence? Literally anecdotes of some random guy saying "I know him he is antifa" and because he had a beard once (lol).





You can't make this shit up -- unless of course you're a conservatard, then by all means shit out whatever fairy tale you want because evidence not required!

T_D comments like this are the norm:


The mental gymnastics.... unreal!

I know all this. I just wanted to see if he was wiling to back up his claim with something concrete (I know that it's not there). Not really expecting an answer though.
 

mikeymikec

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Please answer my question...

If your question was an appropriate response to what either person posted, then you would probably get a direct answer.

"Gun control" does not necessarily mean "no-one can have a gun any more". I'm not aware of any developed country that has taken this stance.
 
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Puffnstuff

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Alex Jones is lining up his strategy as we speak.
Probably from the toilet where most of his stories originate from and will soon appear on his infowarts site. You gotta be careful around those warts because they're kinda like herpes jumping from one ignoramus to another spreading like STD's in Australia.
 

BoomerD

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-calls-church-shooting-act-evil-023653577--politics.html

Trump: Texas mass shooting is about mental health, not guns

President Donald Trump says the mass shooting at a Texas church "isn't a guns situation," but is a "mental health problem at the highest level."

While no officials have publicly questioned Kelley's mental health, Trump said that "is your problem here." He offered no details.

While I don't disagree that the shooter must have had some kind of mental illness to do such a thing...didn't Trump just issue an executive order overturning O'Bummer's EO that prohibited the mentally ill from possessing firearms?

Would such a law have prevented this horrific tragedy? Maybe...maybe not. It would have (at least in part) depended on whether someone who knew him felt that he was mentally ill...mentally ill enough to justify calling the cops...and on the cops believing he was mentally ill enough to get him to court for his illness, on the courts to find him mentally ill enough to take away his right to bear arms...and on the cops to enforce it if they did. (remember, this is Tex-Ass...not exactly a bastion of gun control laws)
 
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ch33zw1z

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They're the talking points the_donald's mentally defunct followers have decided to shit out. Evidence? Literally anecdotes of some random guy saying "I know him he is antifa" and because he had a beard once (lol).





You can't make this shit up -- unless of course you're a conservatard, then by all means shit out whatever fairy tale you want because evidence not required!

T_D comments like this are the norm:


The mental gymnastics.... unreal!
shocked, shocked i tell you.
 

ch33zw1z

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lol, at least he was drunk.

WRT Tumpsters making shit up, it just what ive come to expect from americans. lie cheat and steal, and claim moral superiority amd divinity while you do it.
 

brycejones

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Duh, the common factor is easy access to killing machines, i.e. firearms. How many of these does it take before America gets the message?

Again it can’t be that because otherwise we would have solved it long ago because we are a rational nation?
 

evident

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We ALREADY fear that, hence the guns.
If the people of that Church were mostly armed, a few would have died... the rest would have put down the threat. It's simple logic and MANY people subscribe to that exact train of thought. How do you propose they survive that scenario otherwise?
TBH i'm surprised no one was armed, it was texas after all.

Dunno, I'm grateful that I can enjoy not having to worry about getting shot stumbling thru a dark alley at 3AM or getting gunned down in a mass crowd over here in japan right now.

Oh yeah and in the unlikely event if i get gassed in the subway or run over by some old people who cant drive a vehicle here at least my hospital bill won't cause me to go bankrupt. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me!
 
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So now it's reported he bought the gun through legal channels. Dishonourably discharged for assaulting his wife and daughter. He should not have been able to acquire a weapon through legal channels. Yet somehow he managed.

There needs to be changes to the system.

http://www.businessinsider.com/texa...trick-gun-law-felon-domestic-violence-2017-11

Kelley bought a Ruger AR-556 rifle, used in the attack on the church in Sutherland Springs, in April 2016 from an Academy Sports & Outdoors store in San Antonio, a law enforcement official told CNN.

The purchase of the gun took place two years after Kelley had been court-martialed, imprisoned, most likely charged with multiple felonies, and dishonorably discharged from the military.
 

TheVrolok

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So now it's reported he bought the gun through legal channels. Dishonourably discharged for assaulting his wife and daughter. He should not have been able to acquire a weapon through legal channels. Yet somehow he managed.

There needs to be changes to the system.

http://www.businessinsider.com/texa...trick-gun-law-felon-domestic-violence-2017-11
If true, how deeply do you think this will be explored and will any punishment come to those involved in the sale?
 
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If true, how deeply do you think this will be explored and will any punishment come to those involved in the sale?
Of course it won't be. It should have been caught in the instant background check. It will be argued that the law is in place so all is well.
 

FIVR

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If true, how deeply do you think this will be explored and will any punishment come to those involved in the sale?

Definitely not. There are laws already specifically protecting Gun manufacturers and sellers from any sort of legal liability for the use of their weapons in crimes. These were made long ago to protect people running guns into mexico for the cartels.

There is no chance these people (gun sellers) will be punished.
 

boomerang

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So now it's reported he bought the gun through legal channels. Dishonourably discharged for assaulting his wife and daughter. He should not have been able to acquire a weapon through legal channels. Yet somehow he managed.

There needs to be changes to the system.

http://www.businessinsider.com/texa...trick-gun-law-felon-domestic-violence-2017-11
Did "most likely charged with multiple felonies" get any reaction from you? The article is conjecture with the phrase "most likely" used several times. The story is based on "feelings".

I am seeing conflicting information regarding dishonorable discharges and firearm ownership in searches this morning. It seems to center around the charges that led to the discharge. The article you centered your post around is not defacto evidence of anything.
 

TheVrolok

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Definitely not. There are laws already specifically protecting Gun manufacturers and sellers from any sort of legal liability for the use of their weapons in crimes. These were made long ago to protect people running guns into mexico for the cartels.

There is no chance these people (gun sellers) will be punished.
Maybe I'll watch Runaway Jury tonight, just to get a glimpse into an alternate reality that makes some sort of sense.
 
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Did "most likely charged with multiple felonies" get any reaction from you? The article is conjecture with the phrase "most likely" used several times. The story is based on "feelings".

I am seeing conflicting information regarding dishonorable discharges and firearm ownership in searches this morning. It seems to center around the charges that led to the discharge. The article you centered your post around is not defacto evidence of anything.
No he was court marriages and spent a year in the brig for assaulting his wife and daughter. He would have been DD - NFA firearms as has been widely reported he was.
 

boomerang

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No he was court marriages and spent a year in the brig for assaulting his wife and daughter. He would have been DD - NFA firearms as has been widely reported he was.
Link something with facts not feelings. I haven't been able to find anything definitive but if you can, share it. If it's widely reported you should have links aplenty.
 
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No he was court marriages and spent a year in the brig for assaulting his wife and daughter. He would have been DD - NFA firearms as has been widely reported he was.
I will stand corrected. I see now it was a bad conduct discharge which isn't an immediate disqualifier. Last night most were saying dishonourable. He was denied a carry permit. Apparently ownership wasn't prohibited.

A misdemeanour with violence would disqualify him in civilian life. Apparently doong it in the military doesn't have that disqualifier.
 
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