Breaking- Church shooting in TX

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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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What evidence/link you bring to the table so far? Uh huh.

Still nothing about me as Trump supporter as you claimed? Uh huh.

Keep yapping. Bitch.

until you have a letter drafted by the killer regarding his plans to go shoot up other churches, you have nothing.

You get that, right? You do understand that all your are doing is inferring intent? Do you understand this, are you honestly this stupid because all you see is "bitch is not as cool as me!" and you just keep yapping? unable to critically think because your brain is so-addled with a lifelong inferiority complex that you wear on your sleeve? What's the deal, man?

Anyhoo, never said I discounted the other dude running out and shooting this guy. I think that is great. The issue here is that you guys instantly created a story, and it will only ever be the one story that you believe regardless of when the facts come out. And I know it, because simple kids like you are so preposterously predictable. I don't know if it's the self-hate that manifested in your earlier years of cognitive development, but you have a palpable refusal to address reality in an objective, rational manner. You're the only one that doesn't get it, and it's really just interesting to the rest of us as we watch you flail about with your spaghetti noodle of an intellect, raging against relatively sophomoric concepts that you barely grasp.
 
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Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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until you have a letter drafted by the killer regarding his plans to go shoot up other churches, you have nothing.

You get that, right? You do understand that all your are doing is inferring intent? Do you understand this, are you honestly this stupid because all you see is "bitch is not as cool as me!" and you just keep yapping? unable to critically think because your brain is so-addled with a lifelong inferiority complex that you wear on your sleeve? What's the deal, man?

Anyhoo, never said I discounted the other dude running out and shooting this guy. I think that is great. The issue here is that you guys instantly created a story, and it will only ever be the one story that you believe regardless of when the facts come out. And I know it, because simple kids like you are so preposterously predictable. I don't know if it's the self-hate that manifested in your earlier years of cognitive development, but you have a palpable refusal to address reality in an objective, rational manner. You're the only one that doesn't get it, and it's really just interesting to the rest of us as we watch you flail about with your spaghetti noodle of an intellect, raging against relatively sophomoric concepts that you barely grasp.

Do you have a letter from the shooter that stated he was just about to leave peacefully or kill himself and no one else after he did the shooting? I want to see it.

See? I can play the same stupid game as you.

Bottom line, I have statements from the Sheriff to support me. What do you have? Anything at all? Uh huh. See it yet, sweet cake?

Still nothing about other accusations of me from you - me as Trump supporter and other bullshit? How is my englrish? How is my sig? More whining and bitching from you but unable to do a fucking thing. Uh uh. See your own posting history of whining and bitching yet? Inferior complex you said? What a lowlife bitch you are.
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Huh? Fictional tv, games, books, movies come from imagination. Humans can be evil AND very imaginative about it. Heinous crimes, houses of religion being attacked pre-date movies. How do you explain that?
Chicken or egg, which came first? Bloody Cain said, "I am not my brother's keeper."
 

Muse

Lifer
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Being weaponized reduces otherwise seemingly uncontrollable fear. "Fear is the mind killer..." No doubt he (possibly purposefully) caused a lot of fear too, and gun sales will go up.
Make gun ownership illegal, imprison anyone who harbors one and you will see over time that very few of them exist in our time. Think about it. What's the point of keeping a gun (i.e. hiding it) if the minute you are caught (regardless of the circumstance), you are going to be prosecuted and incarcerated?

Of the 33 most developed nations, the USA has 5 times per capita gun ownership of the next most civilian-armed developed nation! This has to stop and the sooner the better. These massacres are just increasing the USA's lead because everyone is going out and buying guns. Make it a serious felony to possess a gun and this madness will finally stop!!!
 
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Svnla

Lifer
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Its engrish. So to answer your question not good.

Hey, it is ok.

Plus that's how us dumb white southern rednecks living in broken trailers talk. (allegedly). We an't smart enugh u no. We gitta clink onto the bibbles and them gunz, oh and ouz cuzin wivefies.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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Hey, it is ok.

Plus that's how us dumb white southern rednecks living in broken trailers talk. (allegedly). We an't smart enugh u no. We gitta clink onto the bibbles and them gunz, oh and ouz cuzin wivefies.
Well, you know, it's not just the dumb southerners, there are a whole lot of dumb people in this country... all over the place.
 

interchange

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Oct 10, 1999
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Drug addiction is self-destructive and you are likely to take others down with you. You can spend every last dollar you have buying and shooting guns, but as long as you do no harm and are responsible it's nobody's business or a cause for concern.

My stepfather Marvin was the best man I ever knew. I love my father, but few men were as genuinely loving, caring and upstanding as my stepfather was. My father-in-law was a close second. Marvin died owning ~50 guns and carried one almost every day of his adult life. Guns don't corrupt the morals of a good person like drugs addiction does.

Good people flourish regardless of their cultural identifications. That doesn't make their cultural identifications good alongside them.

Bad people do poorly regardless of their cultural identifications. That doesn't make their cultural identifications bad alongside them.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Make gun ownership illegal, imprison anyone who harbors one and you will see over time that very few of them exist in our time. Think about it. What's the point of keeping a gun (i.e. hiding it) if the minute you are caught (regardless of the circumstance), you are going to be prosecuted and incarcerated?

Of the 33 most developed nations, the USA has 5 times per capita gun ownership of the next most civilian-armed developed nation! This has to stop and the sooner the better. These massacres are just increasing the USA's lead because everyone is going out and buying guns. Make it a serious felony to possess a gun and this madness will finally stop!!!

"the massacres are just increasing"....really? Not according to statistics:





Keep spreading that fear though. Theres enough stupid people that will believe it
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Violent crime and firearms homicides are dropping and that trend has been going strong for decades. But liars care about their narrative more than reality.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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So in other words, repeal the 2nd. Good luck with that.
The 2A doesn't protect against pointing and laughing at fetishists.

Don't need to repeal it. Let's try respecting the original intent of well regulated militias. Commas do serve a purpose. An excessively armed society does not.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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The 2A doesn't protect against pointing and laughing at fetishists.

Don't need to repeal it. Let's try respecting the original intent of well regulated militias. Commas do serve a purpose. An excessively armed society does not.

In an emergency, can't form a worthwhile well-regulated militia without access to firearms.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Do you have a letter from the shooter that stated he was just about to leave peacefully or kill himself and no one else after he did the shooting? I want to see it.

See? I can play the same stupid game as you.

Bottom line, I have statements from the Sheriff to support me. What do you have? Anything at all? Uh huh. See it yet, sweet cake?

Still nothing about other accusations of me from you - me as Trump supporter and other bullshit? How is my englrish? How is my sig? More whining and bitching from you but unable to do a fucking thing. Uh uh. See your own posting history of whining and bitching yet? Inferior complex you said? What a lowlife bitch you are.
It's not a game numbfuck. Anything, anyone says as to the intent of the shooter is 100% speculation. Whether he was going to go shoot more people or go jerk off, it's all speculative. Got it? You have speculation from the sheriff, that's it.
goddamn, you appear to be extremely unbalanced.
 

Bird222

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While he should be commended for his actions and likely stopping further loss of life, (I’ll give it 50/50 that the shooter would have gone after his in-laws at their home if he hadn’t been confronted) 46 people were still shot before he was confronted.

You guys like to say “only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun” and “when seconds count the police are minutes away”

This was a case of “when seconds count a good guy with a guy is just minutes away.”

So maybe don’t go breaking your arm jerking yourself off. This post you’ve made makes it seem like you only care about “winning” one for your team on the backs of 46 casualties.
You just made the case why everybody should carry.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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You just made the case why everybody should carry.
Hardly.

First my position has never been to ban all weapons. The 2nd A allows ownership of firearms which include the right to self defense per jurisprudence.

Second. My position is that the evidence shows owning and carrying a firearm to keep you and your family safe only makes them (marginally) less safe in virtually all circumstances.

The odds that the guy who ended (not stopped) the mass shooting was actually in a positio to do so were greater than winning the powerball.

Hell, more people died in fires than mass shootings

972 mass shooting victims going back to 1966

Vs

~3300 fire victims per year

You don’t see people carrying around tactical fire extinguishers. You do however see a lot of fire regulations to reduce the risk of death from fires.

Strangely the 2A has the word regulated in it. Maybe we should work on those regulations to reduce the risk of and damage from shootings.
 

Bird222

Diamond Member
Jun 7, 2004
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Hardly.

First my position has never been to ban all weapons. The 2nd A allows ownership of firearms which include the right to self defense per jurisprudence.

Second. My position is that the evidence shows owning and carrying a firearm to keep you and your family safe only makes them (marginally) less safe in virtually all circumstances.

The odds that the guy who ended (not stopped) the mass shooting was actually in a positio to do so were greater than winning the powerball.

Hell, more people died in fires than mass shootings

972 mass shooting victims going back to 1966

Vs

~3300 fire victims per year

You don’t see people carrying around tactical fire extinguishers. You do however see a lot of fire regulations to reduce the risk of death from fires.

Strangely the 2A has the word regulated in it. Maybe we should work on those regulations to reduce the risk of and damage from shootings.

Question, you're in church and someone starts to shoot; would you rather have someone at the church armed to return fire or wait on LE to get there?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Question, you're in church and someone starts to shoot; would you rather have someone at the church armed to return fire or wait on LE to get there?

I'd rather know exactly who the bad guy is and not be caught in the crossfire between two or more people who more than likely don't have the training to handle such a high stress situation.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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In an emergency, can't form a worthwhile well-regulated militia without access to firearms.
If the militia is well regulated, it is arguably drilling, training and proficient in the case of emergency...if only we had say a National Guard or Reservists to serve such a function
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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Question, you're in church and someone starts to shoot; would you rather have someone at the church armed to return fire or wait on LE to get there?
In that situation, if the shooter doesn't kill me, the untrained hero undoubtedly will. How about we take guns out of the equation. That seems to be the common denominator.
 
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Bird222

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I'd rather know exactly who the bad guy is and not be caught in the crossfire between two or more people who more than likely don't have the training to handle such a high stress situation.
Got news for you. Cops aren't that great at shooting either. A lot of them are worst than the 'gun nuts' because a lot of 'gun nuts' go to the range a lot but many cops only go once a year to qualify.
 

Bird222

Diamond Member
Jun 7, 2004
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In that situation, if the shooter doesn't kill me, the untrained hero undoubtedly will. How about we take guns out of the equation. That seems to be the common denominator.

You got a plan to get them out of the hands of criminals?
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Question, you're in church and someone starts to shoot; would you rather have someone at the church armed to return fire or wait on LE to get there?

Sure, in that specific circumstance I’d rather have someone in the church with a weapon who may accidentally shoot me while trying to protect us against someone actively trying to shoot us.

Question for you.

Would you want the driver of your church van taking kids on a trip to be armed just in case?

 
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