Breaking: Deadly Blast at Moscow’s Main Airport Seen as Terror Attack

[JohnOfSheffield]

Need more facts....so far the party line is -- In televised remarks, the Russian president, Dmitri A. Medvedev, said: “At Domodedovo an explosion has occurred, and according to preliminary information it was a terrorist attack. There are dead and there are wounded.”

31 dead -- RIP!! and approx 150 wounded......sad day in Russia!!

Suicide bomber ordered by Doku... Yes, it's a terrorist attack.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If it was Chechens, are they "rebels" or are they terrorist?

Do they attack civilian targets as a means to spred fear and get their way?

Rebels or terrorists are not mutual exclusive terms, if they fit the description i just wrote, they are terrorists.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

When Russia targets civilians, they are collateral damage. When Chechnyans target civilians, its terrorism.

No, but when Russia targets the locations of terrorists and civilians die in the process, it's collateral damage.

When Chechenyans target kids in a school or civilians at a civilian airport, it's terrorism.

If you can't see the difference, you should forever shut the fuck up, take a vow of silence because you're too stupid to talk.

 

[TareX]

It is probably just more Muslim Terrorism.

What??? Why say "muslim"??

They were Chechnyan terrorists, fighting for their Chechnyan cause. Ergo, it's Chechnyan terrorism.

If they were fighting because they are Muslims, and because Russians are not, well then I would call it Muslim terrorism. But newsflash: IT'S NOT.

It's 100% politically driven terrorism.

And no, that catastrophe won't help me during my job interviews next week.

 

[Zebo]

When Russia targets civilians, they are collateral damage. When Chechnyans target civilians, its terrorism.

You really think that you're an idiot. Russia could kill everyone in Chechnia in a day if they wanted and fix their little problem. They don't - they go house to house which carries lots of risk to Russian soldiers and of course some civilians get caught in crossfire especially when used as human shields.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

What??? Why say "muslim"??

They were Chechnyan terrorists, fighting for their Chechnyan cause. Ergo, it's Chechnyan terrorism.

If they were fighting because they are Muslims, and because Russians are not, well then I would call it Muslim terrorism. But newsflash: IT'S NOT.

It's 100% politically driven terrorism.

And no, that catastrophe won't help me during my job interviews next week.

Because the ones who are performing these terrorist acts are Islamists.

They do it in the name of Allah, to die as martyrs in his name, i don't know how that can be percieved to NOT be a Muslim action but i'm sure that if i was as fucked in the head as you, i might see it that way too.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

You really think that you're an idiot. Russia could kill everyone in Chechnia in a day if they wanted and fix their little problem. They don't - they go house to house which carries lots of risk to Russian soldiers and of course some civilians get caught in crossfire especially when used as human shields.

Actually, they mostly just collect information and bomb the shit out of the neighbourhood, kind of like how we did it in the early stages of the Iraq invasion.

They don't go house to house, i don't know where you got that from.

 

[Blackjack200]

Target civilians?

Like This one? or this one?

BTW, read a little bit of Litvinenko's bio, he accused Russia of staging terrorist attacks for political purposes. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but any government that is vile enough to murder its own dissidents is a government that I wouldn't put anything past.

Edit: And who could forget this little gem? Yeah, Putin doesn't target civilians, he just turns them into popsicles. How revolting.

 

[zinfamous]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/25/world/europe/25moscow.html?src=mv

Wonder if these are the Chechen rebels' doing?

Chechens are always the first to be blamed by Russian authorities.

always.

rebels, occupied citizens of a sovereign nation...all depends on perspective, doesn't it?

 

[zinfamous]

When Russia targets civilians, they are collateral damage. When Chechnyans target civilians, its terrorism.

basically.

Putin has deliberately targeted his own citizens simply to blame it on Chechens.

there is nothing that can ever condone an act of terrorism, but when you send your military in to systematically rape and destroy an entire population, driving them to live in muddy holes and survive off of rancid water and mossy bark, you have to wonder just what these people will resort to.

I will never understand why Russian soldiers (or any invading, occupying nation) will get a pass for slaughtering innocent civilians while those defending their territory are terrorists for using the same tactics.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Chechens are always the first to be blamed by Russian authorities.

always.

rebels, occupied citizens of a sovereign nation...all depends on perspective, doesn't it?

Imagine that you were Russian and saying on a Russian forum right after 9/11 "Islamic terrorists are always the first blamed by US authorities".

The Chenchens have shown time and again that their Islamic suicide teams are very efficient, it's not strange that they are the first thought of when a terrorist attack happens since it's ALWAYS the case in Russia these days.

If you name these terrorist freedom fighters, remember that they are cherishing the exact same ideals and using the exact same tactics as those freedom fighters that attacked the WTC in 9/11.

 

[PB&J]

If you name these terrorist freedom fighters, remember that they are cherishing the exact same ideals and using the exact same tactics as those freedom fighters that attacked the WTC in 9/11.

The 9/11 hijackers were fighting for independence and against an occupation that has destroyed the VAST majority of their homeland since 1995? Wow, learn something new every day.

 

[gevorg]

there is nothing that can ever condone an act of terrorism, but when you send your military in to systematically rape and destroy an entire population, driving them to live in muddy holes and survive off of rancid water and mossy bark, you have to wonder just what these people will resort to.

Even worse is when you invade that country with falsified WMD intelligence.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

basically.

Putin has deliberately targeted his own citizens simply to blame it on Chechens.

In Russia someone is saying "GW has deliberatly targeted his own citisens simply to blame it on Islamic terrorism"....

You are a conspiracy theorist who dislike the fact that the exact same terrorism that has struck the US has struck Russia too and so you defend terrorists.

This was a suicide bomber from... well take a wild fucking guess retard, about all Islamic terrorists in Russia comes from that nation..

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The 9/11 hijackers were fighting for independence and against an occupation that has destroyed the VAST majority of their homeland since 1995? Wow, learn something new every day.

No, since 1962, but otherwise, yes.

Or are you oblivious to the US actions in SA and Iran?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Even worse is when you invade that country with falsified WMD intelligence.

Nah, see Russia=Commie=always wrong... US=JESUS SAVES=Always right

 

[zinfamous]

In Russia someone is saying "GW has deliberatly targeted his own citisens simply to blame it on Islamic terrorism"....

You are a conspiracy theorist who dislike the fact that the exact same terrorism that has struck the US has struck Russia too and so you defend terrorists.

This was a suicide bomber from... well take a wild fucking guess retard, about all Islamic terrorists in Russia comes from that nation..

lol. calling me a conspiracy theorist. lol.

here's a hint: Russia has made no small effort in showing the world time and again that their "official statement" is seldom worth considering as factual.

maybe if they wouldn't have deliberately gassed their own citizens in an effort to blame extra-Russian terrorists

At the very least, we don't assassinate our journalists for offering unflattering opinions of our leaders.

I'll go one further and make wild baseless assumptions from your internet comments: You are a Putin loyalist, and a commie sympathizer.

 

[zinfamous]

Nah, see

Russia=Commie=always wrong
US = sometimes right

ftfy.

 

[zinfamous]

Even worse is when you invade that country with falsified WMD intelligence.

I am no apologist for such acts, and only hope that such could be gleaned from my statements.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

lol. calling me a conspiracy theorist. lol.

here's a hint: Russia has made no small effort in showing the world time and again that their "official statement" is seldom worth considering as factual.

maybe if they wouldn't have deliberately gassed their own citizens in an effort to blame extra-Russian terrorists

At the very least, we don't assassinate our journalists for offering unflattering opinions of our leaders.

I'll go one further and make wild baseless assumptions from your internet comments: You are a Putin loyalist, and a commie sympathizer.

Maybe if Chechenyan Islamic terrorists hadn't taken over a school and started to kill children they would have another way out than to apply gas to save the rest of the children?

Maybe if you actually knew anything about anything you'd change your mind?

The assasination is under British investigation and it has been dealt with.

But sure, you love Islamic terrorists when they attack those horrid commies, not so much when they attack your nation though, but in one case you'll believe any conspiracy you can come up with, in the other, whatever the government of your nation tells you is absolute truth....

Yes, read that again, you have become a loyalist of told truths dependent on who is telling them, it's a pity that it happens so easily, but it's to be expected.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

ftfy.

You actually believe that Russia is a Communist nation that is always wrong?

Since you "fixed that for me" but decided to agree with that statement?

Wow, you are deranged beyond your years, your parents must be very proud.

 

[paulney]

lol. calling me a conspiracy theorist. lol.

maybe if they wouldn't have deliberately gassed their own citizens in an effort to blame extra-Russian terrorists

Zin, I skipped over a lot of your ill-informed mumbo-jumbo, but this has caught my eye. What is this you are referring to?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Zin, I skipped over a lot of your ill-informed mumbo-jumbo, but this has caught my eye. What is this you are referring to?

Chechen terrorist took hostage, the Russian military used narcotic gas to subdue all of them after the terrorists started killing people.

It's not like when the US wanted Saddam to gas the Kurds and supplied the weapon for them to do so.

But then again, it's not like the US have been meddling in the ME like Russia has in Checheny.

 

[paulney]

Chechen terrorist took hostage, the Russian military used narcotic gas to subdue all of them after the terrorists started killing people.

It's not like when the US wanted Saddam to gas the Kurds and supplied the weapon for them to do so.

But then again, it's not like the US have been meddling in the ME like Russia has in Checheny.

Thank you, being Russian, I am quite well aware of the events that took place. I wanted to know if Zin was retarded enough to believe Russian government purposely filled the full theater with lethal gas to kill off as many hostages as it could.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Thank you, being Russian, I am quite well aware of the events that took place. I wanted to know if Zin was retarded enough to believe Russian government purposely filled the full theater with lethal gas to kill off as many hostages as it could.

Well, Zinny boy just dislikes Russians for some reason so i doubt he'll ever admit that that was how it went down.

The gas wasn't exactly leathal and vented as soon as possible, IMO, it was the best possible strategy considering that they started to execute people.