BREAKING: FLYNN MIGHT NOW BE A COOPERATING WITNESS FOR THE FBI

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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Is he cooperating? Or did he take some sort of immunity deal? If the latter, it seems a little too convenient to me.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Not sure who Juliette Kayymen is, or who her sources are supposed to be. This is a rumor for now.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Geez, I hope this is just typical left wing hysteria. I'm loving the new Trumpcare health plan and am looking forward to seeing him raise taxes on the wealthy.
 
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FIVR

Diamond Member
Jun 1, 2016
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It sounds pretty historical or hysterical one way or another. Hopefully we all just need a couple valium and a nap.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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I'm getting tired of posting the phrase "the plot thickens" ever since the leaks started over Trump's surrogates having contacts with Russians pre/during Trump's campaign, but this angle just keeps on giving/growing, one drip at a time.

The only thing that I see that really matters is if Trump can choke off/corrupt the investigative process well enough for him to survive the emerging onslaught of damaging information being revealed to the media.

Interestingly, the contrast between Trump's supporters and his detractors seems to be getting sharper and more intense the more it becomes apparent that Trump's involvement with the Putin "gov't" is real and of growing concern.

Things certainly looks bad for the Trump camp at the moment. Yet, the guy has gotten himself into some deep shit before and I wouldn't put it past him to somehow get away with crimes that others wouldn't be able to.

He's already brought to gov't a "new normal" in the area of refusing to reveal his tax returns and mixing his business interests with his job as POTUS and for now it does seem he'll get away with it, as well as how blatant and brazen he has been with mouthing off obvious baseless lies, gets proven as lies, doubles down on them and then gets forgotten about as if it all never happened. His credibility with his supporters hasn't suffered a single iota from the numerous lies and falsehoods he's been caught saying and tweeting about. It's all good and business as usual as far as they're concerned.

It's worrisome that the guy can do no wrong as far as his supporters are concerned, and Trump keeps pushing the limits of that circumstance with no apparent ill effect.

As someone else previously posted, when is enough, enough?
 
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BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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How long before Flynn disappears...or his body is found in a shallow, unmarked grave?

Considering the longevity of Putin's detractors in Russia, it seems like he's a big believer in "snitches get stitches...or wind up in ditches." If Flynn crosses Trump/Putin...how long will he live?
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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Excellent. With any luck this entire traitorous cabinet ends up in Hell still wearing the ropes around their necks.
IMO only if the American populace are willing to to go all the way to pursue justice, because if they're not, $$$ will speak louder than any normal pursuit of justice, and billions of dollars will line the pockets of lawyers pursuing cases that will last decades and will result in a useless manner. Unfortunately enough of the populace have been indoctrinated with the idea that protesting is bad.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Omg, the Bond theme thickens... I am loving this Flynn guy
I thought he was another boring iteration of yesterday... but dam son... I Like This.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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I'm getting tired of posting the phrase "the plot thickens" ever since the leaks started over Trump's surrogates having contacts with Russians pre/during Trump's campaign, but this angle just keeps on giving/growing, one drip at a time.

The only thing that I see that really matters is if Trump can choke off/corrupt the investigative process well enough for him to survive the emerging onslaught of damaging information being revealed to the media.

Interestingly, the contrast between Trump's supporters and his detractors seems to be getting sharper and more intense the more it becomes apparent that Trump's involvement with the Putin "gov't" is real and of growing concern.

Things certainly looks bad for the Trump camp at the moment. Yet, the guy has gotten himself into some deep shit before and I wouldn't put it past him to somehow get away with crimes that others wouldn't be able to.

He's already brought to gov't a "new normal" in the area of refusing to reveal his tax returns and mixing his business interests with his job as POTUS and for now it does seem he'll get away with it, as well as how blatant and brazen he has been with mouthing off obvious baseless lies, gets proven as lies, doubles down on them and then gets forgotten about as if it all never happened. His credibility with his supporters hasn't suffered a single iota from the numerous lies and falsehoods he's been caught saying and tweeting about. It's all good and business as usual as far as they're concerned.

It's worrisome that the guy can do no wrong as far as his supporters are concerned, and Trump keeps pushing the limits of that circumstance with no apparent ill effect.

As someone else previously posted, when is enough, enough?

Never, gassing Jews in concentration camps wasnt enough previously.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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Let's be serious here guys, still no major (fake) news coverage of this and the guy who reported it obviously has a hard on over slamming Flynn.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I think that's reasonable. We will wait and see.

If trump isn't trying to distract with a twitter rant/attack about some inane topic, then it is likely not legit
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Yeah, this should be taken with a boulder of salt. If it's true then we are probably looking at something bigger than watergate. All it is right now is a rumor though.
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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Someone always playing cooperation games.

Who cares they're always changing, cooperation names.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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When USSR was all about sharing and caring (even under the threat of a gun) the Republicans were appalled by them. Now that Russia is all gangs and rich oligarchies they find much more in common.

Dam son. Speak the truth a little louder wont you?
You know, behind all this I still dream of a day where Russia is a member of Nato, so on and so forth.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Dam son. Speak the truth a little louder wont you?
You know, behind all this I still dream of a day where Russia is a member of Nato, so on and so forth.

The oligarchs and plutocrats in the USA of whom are exactly like Trump are trying to overcome the sanctions we have placed on Russia because they see yuge profits to be made there and in return Russia sees a yuge opportunity to dismantle the western nation's unity that Russia (Vlad Putin) sees as a threat. Backdoor deals have been going on for the longest time between our own very wealthy and their counterparts in Russia since the downfall of the USSR but they want to make those exorbitant profits that sanctions are now restricting. It's the exact same thing that our very wealthy are doing here at home irt their desire to dismantle every single regulatory agency that sitfles (sanctions) their ability to rake in as much profit as possible, consequences be damned.

If there ever was a singular motivation that would bring Russia and the West together, it would be our/their very wealthy's insatiable urge to squeeze more profit out of its peoples and especially so the treasuries that the people's tax $$$ pay into. That urge, through our very own POTUS, has now even superseded the requirement for our nation to provide the security it needs to survive.

Trump wants "better relations" with Putin simply because it's good for the businesses he owns, as seen by the deals he's already made with the Russians pre-presidency, and he now wants to use his position as POTUS to release the restraints those sanctions imposed on Russia by, of all people, "Obama the Commie loving Socialist".

The irony in that is pure tragi-comedy in form and function. As well, Trump's supporters apparently approve of his behavior through their utter and complete silence over the controversy Trump has elicited from his behavior and actions in this regard.
 
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^^Problem with the first part of the above theory is many wealthy guys don't like Trump. He's a braggart and boorish to them too.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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^^Problem with the first part of the above theory is many wealthy guys don't like Trump. He's a braggart and boorish to them too.

Wholeheartedly agree. However, methinks their desire for more wealth and the influence Trump now has over world affairs would overcome their distaste for the guy.

For all of their ilk, "it's nothing personal, it's just business, you see." They want to exploit Trump just as Trump has exploited the followers he has gathered around himself.

IMO, for guys like Trump, It's all of matter of who can better take advantage of "the other guy's weaknesses" in order to get ahead of "the game".
 
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mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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Can someone (not a Trump supporter, or a closet one) give me a summary of the alleged Russian connection?
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Can someone (not a Trump supporter, or a closet one) give me a summary of the alleged Russian connection?

Can someone tell me what everything in reality is?

So basically, what exactly are you wanting to know? Can you start narrowing down your question at all?
 

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
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Can you start narrowing down your question at all?

Not really, a quick summary. Off the top of my head, there is:

1) Allegations of Russia manipulating the election
2) Allegations of Trump's team conversing with Russia, denying it, then having to admit some, one head rolled IIRC.
3) Pee pee tape (I can't remember what other bits came from the same source)

I can't even remember who Mike Flynn is supposed to be. Except on point 2, IIRC not sure anything solid has come to light. The problem is, I get bombarded on FB with a lot of fluff articles from one person, every one claiming something is a huge development when actually it's more opinion and fluff.

Can someone tell me what everything in reality is?

A little bit of an exaggeration, doncha think. Asking for the entire history of Germany is similar to what you're suggesting, asking for a quick summary of WW2 on the other hand is not; I'm pretty sure most people here could sum up WW2 in one or up to several paragraphs if they wanted to.
 
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