OK Bozo, if he is not an Islamist terrorist then how do you explain this:
And what do you have to say about this:
Go ahead Kyle, explain this reality away so that it fits your own version of the real world. It's always good for a laugh.
BLAH BLAH BLAH So Hasan was obviously just another nutcase, and attempts to brand him as anything else are absurd.
Regardless of word games and beating people over the head with dictionary definitions of terrorism, the fact remains that we had a solider who identified with our killers and then turned around and killed us. The ideology he identified with was Islam and barring his connection to that I contend that he would not have had a reason to snap.
That he was contacting Islamic terrorists and shares a history in a Virginia mosque with 9-11 hijackers is all the more damning for your notion.
Even if he blew himself up yelling alah ackbar this administration and the left would still refuse to call it a terrorist attack by a radical muslim. And in my opinion (really fact) there is nothing different from blowing himself up and this shooting. The motivations and outcome are one and the same - to carry out his personal jihad which he has been instructed to do by muslim leaders.
You do realize, don't you, that the FBI determined in December of 2008 - on Bush's watch - that Hasan had been communicating with Anwar al Awlaki, but decided that the communications were consistent with the research Hasan was doing, and were innocent.Funny how everyone made fun of McCain when he hinted that Obama would take the country back to a pre 9/11 mentality and then this happens...
(not saying that the shooting was funny)
Everyone saw the writing on the wall and the government even knew about this guy but was too chicken shit to act on it because they were afraid of being called politically incorrect.
These deaths are 100% on the government.
That he was contacting Islamic terrorists and shares a history in a Virginia mosque with 9-11 hijackers is all the more damning for your notion.
Even if he blew himself up yelling alah ackbar this administration and the left would still refuse to call it a terrorist attack by a radical muslim.
LolZ, at this time in the investigation, the "right" isn't calling it one either...
From the links above, Jonah Goldberg said:
"He committed treason and murder. It was a cowardly act. If we are at war, then it was a war crime."
Versus the conservative position: Christian + killer = murderer. Muslim + killer = jihadist terrorist. Amirite?
Can we arrest people for thought crime?
Can we arrest people for Anti-American thoughts?
Why didn't his fellow physician confront him? And then what? A stern warning?
If some scrawny Asian college student can gun down an entire classroom, I don't think a trained member of our military would have any issues carrying out mass murder.
Short of imprisoning people for "pre-crime", you can't do anything about it.
BLAH BLAH.
Even if he blew himself up yelling alah ackbar this administration and the left would still refuse to call it a terrorist attack by a radical muslim. And in my opinion (really fact) there is nothing different from blowing himself up and this shooting. The motivations and outcome are one and the same - to carry out his personal jihad which he has been instructed to do by muslim leaders.
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To me this is more demonstration that the 9/11 attacks were successful. Americans are scared. We are now confusing actual terrorism with random acts of violence. People are looking for patterns, in hopes that they can predict when this will happen again and they can be safe. Many Americans simply cannot accept the fact that this was a random and senseless act of violence against our troops. They need something more firm to cling to, and if this thread is any evidence, a lot of people are clinging to the idea that Muslims can't be trusted. It won't work. You can't predict when someone will do something like this. You can never be 'safe' and the sooner you realize it, the happier you will be. What's truly sad is that some of these same people thump the Constitution in one hand while advocating we strip a certain group of it's civil rights with the other.
I will never understand this line of reasoning that "we're scared". That couldn't be farther from the truth. We're not scared, we're resolved to crush and annihilate anyone that wishes to cause harm to our nation or inflict terror in our citizens or use violence as a means to outwardly influence our politics. Resolve, not fear.
Oh, and Sen. McCain called it "an act of terror" today. Does that suit the apologists?
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Just reread your post. It's very sickening how you are making excuses and essentially apologizing for this guy. It's almost as if you support what he did or somehow think it's ok or not his fault or not premeditated. You sound like every other muslim if you are one - shifting blame away from your ideology and called upon jihad. STand up and denounce this attack or continue to be lumped in with the lunatics fringe of your religion of "peace".
My "notion" is that he commited murder and treason. There is NOTHING damning about it.
I will never understand this line of reasoning that "we're scared". That couldn't be farther from the truth. We're not scared, we're resolved to crush and annihilate anyone that wishes to cause harm to our nation or inflict terror in our citizens or use violence as a means to outwardly influence our politics. Resolve, not fear.
Oh, and Sen. McCain called it "an act of terror" today. Does that suit the apologists?
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Just reread your post. It's very sickening how you are making excuses and essentially apologizing for this guy. It's almost as if you support what he did or somehow think it's ok or not his fault or not premeditated. You sound like every other muslim if you are one - shifting blame away from your ideology and called upon jihad. STand up and denounce this attack or continue to be lumped in with the lunatics fringe of your religion of "peace".
Correlation does not imply causation....if he is not an Islamist terrorist then how do you explain this:
I know falsers such as yourself like to claim that, but highly doubt the claim has any basis in reality.
It's your claim, and you just proved it wrongheaded yourself by admitting it is based on imagining that a bunch of people who never necessarily looked at the evidence support the official myth of how the buildings came down.
You want to give a true definition of "terrorist attack"? Kinda hard to debate anything when you don't even know what you are discussing.
Muslim leaders do not lead radical Muslims. I'm glad we are not in a rush to label him a terrorist, because that is a really convenient way for an administration to strip someone of all their rights. I'm sorry, but my definition of terrorism does not include random acts of violence. The "threshold" is a little higher in my book.
A little video I uploaded for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaWmumbsCvg
We're ignoring the fact that this guy was a trauma specialist. No one is talking about counter-transference, secondary trauma, or suicide by police. People are outright dismissing other relevant facts, like how he was obviously ostracized by a fellow soldier. We are acting like it's a radical concept that someone would believe the Laws of God trump the Laws of Man, or that it's a radical idea that someone would struggle with the idea of killing someone else like themselves because they took an oath. We are only looking for stuff that supports our preconceived notions of why this crime was committed based on his last name.
We've already decided what the cause of this attack was, and god damn it, all the other facts don't matter. Anyone who disagrees is a liberal politically correct anti-American fool. It's fucking pathetic and displays a level of ignorance that is truly revolting. However, that isn't the worst part. The most revolting thing about this entire episode is that it will lead to even more ostracizing of Muslim Americans, which will probably lead to even more violence.
To me this is more demonstration that the 9/11 attacks were successful. Americans are scared. We are now confusing actual terrorism with random acts of violence. People are looking for patterns, in hopes that they can predict when this will happen again and they can be safe. Many Americans simply cannot accept the fact that this was a random and senseless act of violence against our troops. They need something more firm to cling to, and if this thread is any evidence, a lot of people are clinging to the idea that Muslims can't be trusted. It won't work. You can't predict when someone will do something like this. You can never be 'safe' and the sooner you realize it, the happier you will be. What's truly sad is that some of these same people thump the Constitution in one hand while advocating we strip a certain group of it's civil rights with the other. That scares me a whole hell of a lot more than anything this guy did.
You claimed "the vast majority of all structural engineers", but when asked how you substantiate your claim, you simply cite the lack of "a single structural engineering department of any university or any major structural engineering group" acknowledging the fact that the buildings were rigged to come down. So, you can't even show a simple majority, let alone a vast one, even took a serious look at the evidence, yet you play make-believe in claiming otherwise as an excuse to avoid doing so yourself.Nowhere in my statement did I use or attempt to use the conjecture of people who have 'never necessarily looked at the evidence'...
We sure as hell are calling it a terrorist attack on American soil regardless of what talking heads say. Call a spade a spade and screw political correctness - muslim terrorist carrying out jihad. Have a quick military trial and send him to the firing squad.
Remember the oath to The Constitution - "protect from enemies both foreign AND domestic"
Then why haven't you been shot yet? You and your kind are doing far more damage to this country than Hasan ever could. You're making it's citizens little robot pussies who cower in their homes, stroking their guns, listening to sociopathic corporate prostitutes tell them they should be worried about when the brown people are going to get them.
LOL! I've already explained it has nothing to do with being scared, more about destroying our enemies.
Seriously, here is a list of architects and engineers who have come to terms with the fact that the official story is flagrantly false, I highly doubt you can product list of credentialed people anywhere that long who will sign their name to the contrary. Put simply, you've got little more than smoke and mirrors.
Then why haven't you been shot yet? You and your kind are doing far more damage to this country than Hasan ever could. You're making it's citizens little robot pussies who cower in their homes, stroking their guns, listening to sociopathic corporate prostitutes tell them they should be worried about when the brown people are going to get them.