BREAKING NEWS!! : Gary Payton agrees to sign with Lakers!!!!

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masterxfob

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Originally posted by: Chess
Originally posted by: masterxfob
Originally posted by: shady06
thanx for the link. i dont know about kidd though, i would like to see the SPURS develop parker into a better player. hopefully, the talks between indiana and oneal will fall thru so the lakers will have some competition next year. btw, will payton be a starter?

if you were a coach, would you start payton or fisher? that's a no-brainer...

The way I look at it right now is

PG= Payton
SG= Kobe
SF= George
PF= Malone
C= Shaq

I dislike the lakers but they should be fun to watch if this all falls into place....

the lakers are not very fun to watch when shaq is in the game. shaq usually slows the game down, but it is fun to watch him when he's active. however, when shaq get's into foul trouble or takes a breather and malone is left in the C/PF position, it'll be fun because then the lakers will get to run quite a bit.

the only thing i don't like in that lineup is GEORGE! we pay the guy and he chokes on us, he's not starter material. in a few years i'm sure he'll build up his confidence, but until then, i'd like to see him come off the bench.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: masterxfob
The way I look at it right now is

PG= Payton
SG= Kobe
SF= George
PF= Malone
C= Shaq

I dislike the lakers but they should be fun to watch if this all falls into place....

the lakers are not very fun to watch when shaq is in the game. shaq usually slows the game down, but it is fun to watch him when he's active. however, when shaq get's into foul trouble or takes a breather and malone is left in the C/PF position, it'll be fun because then the lakers will get to run quite a bit.

the only thing i don't like in that lineup is GEORGE! we pay the guy and he chokes on us, he's not starter material. in a few years i'm sure he'll build up his confidence, but until then, i'd like to see him come off the bench.

I don't see how George choked at all last year, he simply had bad luck with injuries. Overall he's an extremely talented player who brings much needed athleticism (i.e. rebounds, etc.) to the floor and is an extremely good outside shooter for a small forward. He's made at least one or two game winning shots during the regular season and was clutch in the Spurs playoff series even AFTER he came back from a serious ankle sprain (he scored 10 pts in the 1st quarter of the 1st game coming off the injury in that series).

Originally posted by: shady06
i dont know why the lakers are trying to get older. payton has what, 2 years left? and if they get malone he'll prolly just play a single year

Lakers aren't trying to get older, they are simply very few good young players willing to go to L.A. for a small salary. Not surprising at all that two future HOAer's are smart enough to take a pay cut and go to L.A. Especially Malone, as he'll be making 17.5 million less playing for the Lakers this year compared to last year with the Jazz. Payton as well is losing 8 or so million a year with the Lakers versus most any other team.
 

prontospyder

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LA Times

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Payton sees no problems about fitting in with Shaq, Kobe and maybe Malone.

By Tim Brown, Times Staff Writer


All of the September talk will be about the basketballs, and exactly how many the Lakers plan to roll out every night now that Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant and Gary Payton and, maybe, Karl Malone are there.

The triangle offense is one thing. Four superstars, none of whom has averaged fewer than Payton's 18.3 points over his career, could be quite another. After all, offensive civil wars are nothing new and, in fact, quite tolerated in Los Angeles.

Payton, not yet officially a Laker but close enough to advise General Manager Mitch Kupchak to go ahead and get some sleep before July 16, the first day free agents may sign contracts, waved away the notion there would be anything but harmony in Phil Jackson's offense. As of Wednesday night, the Lakers were still awaiting Malone's decision.

Dressed in a white Nike warmup suit, white Nike sneakers and a white Nike cap and preparing to do a colorful Nike commercial shoot, Payton sat near the front of a cushy recreational vehicle Wednesday afternoon. It was hot in the rear parking lot of Patriotic Hall, a few blocks down Figueroa Street from Staples Center, but an air conditioner pumped cool breezes past Payton, and he smiled again at the idea of being a Laker.

Anything short of a championship would be a waste, he said, and anything short of his career scoring average, well, he could live with that.

"I don't think we can go for anything less than [an NBA title]," he said. "Everybody would say we're flops and that it was just all hype. We've got to take it one step at a time, win basketball games, get ourselves in a good situation, then get into the playoffs and try to dominate then.

"And everybody thinks they don't know what's going to happen with the ball situation with the four of us. That's not going to be a problem. Me and Karl understand that we want to win a championship. We can adjust to anything. Besides, I think all four of us can score 20 points a game. I think so. I can get a lot of easy baskets, and Karl, when Shaq is getting double-teamed, he can hit that little mid-range jumper, and Kobe's going to be Kobe. You know he's going to score points.

"So, we're not going to worry about that. It's not going to be about who gets the ball and all that stuff. That's over with. Me and Karl have been in the league too long. We can sacrifice. If I can average 16 [points] and 10 [assists], I'm happy. I'm happy."

Payton will spend part of today at the Laker training facility in El Segundo and part of it looking for housing, he said, perhaps in some of the beach communities nearby. He heard Tuesday afternoon from O'Neal, who invited him to spend a few days in Orlando with him later in summer, and Wednesday afternoon from owner Jerry Buss, who called from Europe. He has spoken at some length with Magic Johnson and Jackson.

On the RV, he told tales of O'Neal begging him to come to Los Angeles at the last All-Star break, and of Malone promising him the two would play together some day, seeing as they would arrive into free agency in the same July. Now, he believes, they will all play for a championship together, in gold, in a city momentarily saddened by the Lakers' failure two months ago and this week's accusations against Bryant.

Though he still expects Milwaukee to piece together a sign-and-trade package that would allow the Lakers to pay him more, Payton took less than $5 million because of the experience of being a Laker, of playing beside O'Neal and Bryant, and nothing, for now, would dampen that. He said he wanted to play for a championship and then took a reasonable step toward it, committing to the Lakers instead of the Portland Trail Blazers, Miami Heat or, in the 11th hour, Indiana Pacers.

"It's a good situation for me, I felt," Payton said. "All the money, I got money. The opportunity to come play with Shaq and Kobe, and especially when Karl said he was going to be aboard, I couldn't bypass an opportunity like that. We've got that. Me and Karl have been in the league long enough that we've established what we need to establish. Now, for both of us to get a ring would be the right way to end our careers, to get one of them.

"I talked to Phil to see what he wanted to know, what he wanted and whether he was going to be here, and the talk went really well. He was talking about the defensive presence that he wanted to bring back to the Lakers, that it wasn't there enough, and that with me and Kobe in the backcourt we could press a lot of people. They tired Kobe out a lot this year by making him bring up the ball and trying to make tough shots. So, with me there to create more shots for him, it'll be better for him.

"And it'll make it easier on Shaq. They double-team him and you've got three threats coming around the perimeter. I don't think a lot of teams are going to want to double or it'll be a feast for us. That conversation went well."

Jackson and Payton spoke in the days after Malone told the Lakers he would consider playing for their $1.5-million exception if it meant they could sign Payton. After that, Payton said, it was nice to be recruited by players and Hall of Famers. It was nice to consider playing so close to his boyhood home of Oakland, where much of his family lives.

Of Malone's gesture ? his proposed salary would constitute a pay cut of nearly $18 million ? Payton said, "I was blown away, especially with a guy like that. He's one of the greatest basketball players to ever play this game. For him to make a statement like that was big for me. It made me feel good that a guy of his caliber can put me in a category that he'll wait for me and he will sign with a team so he can play with me. That makes me feel really good."

Though, suddenly, everyone is waiting on Malone.

"I don't think Karl is going to go back on his word," he said. "He's already told everybody he's going to sign. I don't think he's that type of person."

There is, perhaps, only one issue that would cloud their training camp. Bryant could be in some trouble, and a week that could be the best of Kupchak's career is, at best, bittersweet. Payton, who late last season was charged with three counts of misdemeanor assault for an incident outside a Toronto strip club, predicted there would be no distractions.

"Everybody makes mistakes," he said. "We don't know what he's done. Nobody knows what he's done. It's just like when I was up at that thing in Toronto, people didn't know what really went on. It was just something that happened.

"He'll be all right. He's a tough kid. He'll get through it."
 

badluck

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I heard this morning that Gary Payton is having second thoughts on signing with L.A. Woody Paige was on 810whb this morning and stated this.
 

Storm

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Originally posted by: badluck
I heard this morning that Gary Payton is having second thoughts on signing with L.A. Woody Paige was on 810whb this morning and stated this.

Thats one hell of a rumor? What were his reasons?
 

Flatline

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I reiterate: no team would pass up signing Payton and Malone for $6.5 million. That's just incredible.
 

badluck

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Originally posted by: Storm
Originally posted by: badluck
I heard this morning that Gary Payton is having second thoughts on signing with L.A. Woody Paige was on 810whb this morning and stated this.

Thats one hell of a rumor? What were his reasons?


They were mainly talking about Kobe's situation. Woody Paige stayed at the resort where the assault allegedly took place (LInk to that story). Woody was talking about how if there is a trial, it might start in about 6 months which is during the middle of the NBA season. He stated that this would have a big impact on the Lakers season and that he is hearing that Gary Payton is now reconsidering signing with the Lakers as a result of this.

On a side note....Woody made it sound like Kobe will be charged with something, they are just trying to figure out what. He also made it sound like Kobe is in for some trouble. He just wouldn't comment on how much. In addition, he sounded awfully guarded and sounded like he was watching every word he said.


 

MuffD

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I think now it's going to take alot to stop the Lakers from winning their 4th title in 5 years with this combinations of players.
 

prontospyder

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Originally posted by: badluck
I heard this morning that Gary Payton is having second thoughts on signing with L.A. Woody Paige was on 810whb this morning and stated this.

Interesting development....if Payton goes, Malone will probably go too. But Mr. Paige is probably just trying to get Payton to join the Nuggets.

 

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Lifer
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Payton's already practicing in the Laker's El Segundo facility and going over plays with Phil. Woody Paige is a dope.
 

dukdukgoos

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This is turning out to be the Lakers' year... they pick up GP and Mail, Kidd and Zo go to Jersey, PJ to New Orleans. Looks like slim pickins for the Spurs and Mavs. And what about the poors Kings...their window of opportunity looks like it's slammed shut.
 
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Originally posted by: dukdukgoos
This is turning out to be the Lakers' year... they pick up GP and Mail, Kidd and Zo go to Jersey, PJ to New Orleans. Looks like slim pickins for the Spurs and Mavs. And what about the poors Kings...their window of opportunity looks like it's slammed shut.

The Mav's only real "opportunity" is Brad Miller, whom I don't personally like a whole lot. If Raef and Dirk can both step it up they don't really need to sign more inner D - they have great team chemistry as it is, just lack of experience with Raef and Dirk, who are both developing as players.
 
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