Breaking News..... He's In!!!!!

bshole

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PokerGuy

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That's good, I'm not a huge Jeb fan, but he's bound to be light years better than hillary. That's not a very high bar of course.
 

Mursilis

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He's going to have a hard time overcoming the negatives of his brother's terms.
 

bshole

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I'm interested in what he has to say.

I'm pretty sure that he will say that the White House should be reserved for a Bush/Clinton for the next millenia. This is what oligarchy looks like.... not even the semblance of new blood.....
 

lozina

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Yep. proving that in a nation with over 300 million people there are only a few select families who are qualified enough to lead it into oblivion.
 

rudeguy

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He's going to have a hard time overcoming the negatives of his brother's terms.

Good job!

3 posts before you drug W into the thread. Does this mean Hillary will have a hard time convincing people she won't be giving head to interns in the Oval Office bathroom?
 

Jaskalas

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Dear Jeb, how would your policy differ from former President George W. Bush?
What are some of the mistakes your brother made in office?
 

rudeguy

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I'm pretty sure that he will say that the White House should be reserved for a Bush/Clinton for the next millenia. This is what oligarchy looks like.... not even the semblance of new blood.....

So his views aren't important, only who his dad is?

You are always so quick to bash discrimination yet so quick to practice it. Way to stick to the liberal playbook!
 

MovingTarget

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No. The office of the presidency should not become a political dynasty. Two Bushes (or Adams, Roosevelts, etc..) were more than enough.
 

Sonikku

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Bush Jr doesn't seem as bad now in hindsight, now that I've had some years to forget about it. Got nothing on Obama, who is now considered the worst president since WW2.
 

fskimospy

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Good job!

3 posts before you drug W into the thread. Does this mean Hillary will have a hard time convincing people she won't be giving head to interns in the Oval Office bathroom?

Whether or not you think such a thing is justified, you know he's right.

After GWB's disastrous presidency I think anyone with the last name of Bush will have a very hard time winning a national election in the US for awhile.

Americans in general have a positive association with the Clinton last name. It very likely helps her chances of winning. Americans in general have a negative association with Bush. That hurts Jeb's chances of winning.

I am having trouble imagining a scenario where he wins the nomination. He has the lack of ideological purity that the Tea Party people hate and he has baggage in his last name that establishment people hate. I don't think his party connections will be enough to overcome it.
 

hal2kilo

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It will be tough to make it through the primaries with his moderate stance on imigration. I'm sure that if he was in the congress he would have had no problem with voting for the bi-partisan immigration bill passed by the senate only to die when sent back to the house.

Hell, if he makes it through the primary and his opponent is Hillary, I would even vote for him.
 

rudeguy

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It will be tough to make it through the primaries with his moderate stance on imigration. I'm sure that if he was in the congress he would have had no problem with voting for the bi-partisan immigration bill passed by the senate only to die when sent back to the house.

Hell, if he makes it through the primary and his opponent is Hillary, I would even vote for him.

I think its a bit early to talk about who you would vote for. No one has really set an agenda or even stated their views.

I just want to hear what some of these people have to say. I want to hear if anyone is actually going to work towards fixing things or if its just another shit slinging contest.
 

Jaskalas

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Bush Jr doesn't seem as bad now in hindsight...

Massive entitlement expansion.
Patriot Act.
NSA / warrantless wiretap abuse.
Iraq.
Failure to win in Afghanistan.
Push for amnesty.
Granted the EPA additional power over CO2.
Wall Street bailout.

Much of what Obama has done wrong, Bush started or tried to do.
 

thraashman

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Good job!

3 posts before you drug W into the thread. Does this mean Hillary will have a hard time convincing people she won't be giving head to interns in the Oval Office bathroom?

Clinton got a bj but he was probably the best President we've had since WW2. We could only hope that Hillary would be as good.
 

Franz316

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LOL, are trying to have some form of presidential monarchy?

Hilary vs Jeb 2016 - Meet your new boss, same as the old boss.
 
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I'm voting 3rd party, I don't give a flyin sh!t who is running.
I understand your frustration. I'll likely vote Republican if a moderate gets the nomination....or 3rd party if Ted Cruz or one of his ilk get the nomination...insane people should not be allowed to run.
 

inachu

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Does not matter who you vote for. It is all rigged so that no matter who wins, the wars will continue for the next 500 years.

Lobby groups and Special Interest Groups are the real americans.

So when any president say,"The people have spoken and I listened." It just means those groups and has nothing to do with Americans in general.
 
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PokerGuy

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No. The office of the presidency should not become a political dynasty. Two Bushes (or Adams, Roosevelts, etc..) were more than enough.

If hillary gets in, it would be another clinton, so we would have had Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/obummer/Clinton. So basically 6 out of the last 7 terms would have a president named Bush or Clinton. That says a lot about our crappy two party system.
 
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