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Jeb at least seems to be brighter than W. He is not afraid of books like W was.
my left ankle is smarter than bush.
Jeb at least seems to be brighter than W. He is not afraid of books like W was.
IMO, the majority of Dems feel Hillary is owed her chance to run in spades. If Jeb Bush runs on his past record of being a moderate, he certainly won't get the same welcome from his party as Hillary gets from hers.
Jeb Bush is going to have to run the Tea Party gauntlet the same as Romney did, and like Romney, Jeb is going to have to appease the wing nut base to win the primary by preaching the wing nut line of far right loony-toons thus branding himself that way, then do an awkward flip-flop, convince the moderates he didn't really mean what he said earlier and revert to being a moderate to win in the general.
Good luck with that.
I don't see him getting very far. He has said things like immigrants are people, which is very anti-GOP.
Or, he could just ignore the Tea Party altogether and run as an intelligent, informed human with something relevant to offer the country.
Or, he could just ignore the Tea Party altogether and run as an intelligent, informed human with something relevant to offer the country.
And the puppet master is the press.
Think about it...the only reason Romney was the nominee was the media thrashed every single other republican candidate until only Romney was left. Same thing happened with the Mummy in 08. Does anyone honestly believe that either McCain or Romney were the best guys running? Hell no. But the press made sure they were the ones who got the nod, knowing they would get destroyed by the democrat nominee.
People can keep complaining and saying they don't want another person from the same circle but the press is going to destroy any outsider that tries to get it. Unless the media stops trying to change the world and goes back to honest reporting, the sheeple will continue to do as they are told.
I think that avoiding political dynasties is a reasonable concern, especially at the top.So his views aren't important, only who his dad is?
You are always so quick to bash discrimination yet so quick to practice it. Way to stick to the liberal playbook!
Probably. Personally, I tend to vote Libertarian unless really attracted to the Pubbie or revolted by the Dem. In recent years, doesn't seem like much chance of any Dem for whom I'd ever vote making it through the primary - although the Pubbies have done yeoman's work at promoting candidates repulsive enough to make me vote Democrat.IF it comes down to Bush vs whoever is on the left, repubs will vote willingly for Bush no matter what you're saying now.
Yeah, but there's quite a gap there so that wouldn't quite be a political dynasty. (Hey, maybe the new Adams can advocate our independence from Red China - or maybe from government.)If there was a third Adams and he/she governed by the ideals of the first, I'd vote for that person in a split second.
I think its a bit early to talk about who you would vote for. No one has really set an agenda or even stated their views.
I just want to hear what some of these people have to say. I want to hear if anyone is actually going to work towards fixing things or if its just another shit slinging contest.
That would be very principled of him to do that, and I'd admire him for not doing what Hiilary did in her last run. But wouldn't Jeb be committing political suicide if he did that?
Good luck getting out of primaries like that.
Pay attention to what recently happened with the budget...a paradigm shift has occurred in the Republican party. The Tea Party is dying now, Republican moderates are giving them the finger and are now courting moderate Democrats to get things done...they now recognize that the Tea Party is insane. However, the Tea Party was never about Obama being black as you imply...but I somehow doubt that you will ever get this.probably
One way to look at it: how successful has the Tea Party been in promoting national candidates? They're terrible. They are a fringe minority within their own party, which more and more has lost the confidence of the American people. So, they are a fringe within a minority. A very loud one, of course.
They produced the most useless, ineffective, and most hated Congress ever seen. Their yahoos get voted in, but public opinion of their..."work" always hovers in the single digits. It's one thing to elect individuals, it's another to vote directly on issues. --just look at 2014: Tea Party takes Congress, yet voters in the same districts, when voting directly on the issues in referendums, tend to vote progressive.
Why is that?
Anyway, back to my point: It might be a sacrifice for Jeb, but at some point the GOP really has to wise up, because the Tea Party is dead. They essentially rose on the power of small town hayseeds being afraid of the image of a scary muslim black man (can't really deny this--they sprang from the tiny group of yahoos that spit out racial invective at the Palin campaign stops in 2008). They are irrelevant. They will die out when Obama is gone (no more black man).
How long does it take the GOP to realize that catering these unpatriotic shitholes is going to keep them in the realm of irrelevance?
Pay attention to what recently happened with the budget...a paradigm shift has occurred in the Republican party. The Tea Party is dying now, Republican moderates are giving them the finger and are now courting moderate Democrats to get things done...they now recognize that the Tea Party is insane. However, the Tea Party was never about Obama being black as you imply...but I somehow doubt that you will ever get this.
Pay attention to what recently happened with the budget...a paradigm shift has occurred in the Republican party. The Tea Party is dying now, Republican moderates are giving them the finger and are now courting moderate Democrats to get things done...they now recognize that the Tea Party is insane. However, the Tea Party was never about Obama being black as you imply...but I somehow doubt that you will ever get this.
You seem to believe that racism was an unwritten central tenet of the Tea Party as if this is an established fact...what proof do you have to offer?The Tea Party was not about Obama being black, but to think or claim that racism had nothing to do with it is just ignorance or lying to yourself. The Tea Party has proven time and again that the values they hold are all the worst of the super conservative social values.
You seem to believe that racism was an unwritten central tenet of the Tea Party as if this is an established fact...what proof do you have to offer?
Another misconception [is] that the Tea Party is really just a bunch of racist people and that their movement is about racism and its really not Its bigger than racism. People who tend to support the Tea Party, they tend to be sexist, they tend to be homophobic, they tend to be xenophobic; so its not just about race. Its about difference. Its about anything that violates their phenotypical norm of what its supposed to mean to be an American: white, mainly male, middle-class, middle-aged or older, heterosexual, and native born. Anything that falls beyond that description is considered not to be a true American and therefore these groups are encroaching on what they see as the real America, the America that theyve come to know and love through their lifetime.
Let me just tell you one second point: Another axis of difference between the two is that an establishment conservative will see policy differences or policy preference differences between them and progressives as merely political differences. But these reactionary conservatives see policy differences, or differences of policy preferences, as a contest between good and evil. They have this Manichaean way of looking at politics, this apocalyptic way of looking at politics. Therefore, compromise cannot be [allowed]. Compromise will not be tolerated whatsoever, because they see it as concession to evil, whereas an establishment conservative knows that compromise is necessary.
Obviously "code" to the tin foil hat folk among us.i thought the tea party as about small government and less government spending?
or you know
Taxed
Enough
Already?
This sums it up quite nicely....
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/25/tea...side_the_movements_terrifying_revitalization/
Really? This is the opinion of an associate professor, not one fact was cited to support his opinion.This sums it up quite nicely....
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/25/tea...side_the_movements_terrifying_revitalization/
And you believe that most Muslims are terrorists as well? Or is this kind of logic somehow different?The TEA party may not have a mandate or goal soaked in racism,... but, it's members seem to be covered in it; NSFWhttp://aattp.org/20-more-insane-racist-tea-party-signs/NSFW
Yes, yes, I am sure all those signs were photoshopped and no one in the TEA party is raging racist,.. damn those deceptive liberals trying to paint an ugly image of the TEA party...
Oh, and here is quick google search
NSFWhttps://www.google.com/search?q=tea...&sa=X&ei=KaGQVMyYCYP2UKyxhJgF&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAwNSFW
Really? This is the opinion of an associate professor, not one fact was cited to support his opinion.