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Jaskalas

Lifer
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Well in the UK, after the police shoot (or other method/accident) someone dead (very, very rare, here). There is always an investigation, and it is done independently of the police. The results of the investigations, are usually made public (maybe not always and some things may be withheld).

That probably helps with the Police vs General Public relations.

We use to (a very long time ago) allow the police to investigate themselves. But learnt from experience that this method works very badly. Sometimes creating terrible injustices.

So for us, that'd be a division of the department of justice?
Suppose each state could investigate their own if Fed involvement became an issue.
 

bshole

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His death was one of the greatest American crimes of the past century.

Actually, this is Obamas opportunity to make a huge difference. As a black president, he is in unique position to influence how we move forward. I sincerely hope he finds the right words to calm this situation.
 

SOFTengCOMPelec

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A nutcase fueled by a media that in it's desperation for rating is actively engaged in dividing America around racial boundaries. I blame the media first and foremost.

I bet the media is a lot to blame as well. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I can't see your media (easily) from here, so I can't make my own mind up.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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So the media shouldnt talk about police killing black people? Thats the solution? No.
 

Jhhnn

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Actually, this is Obamas opportunity to make a huge difference. As a black president, he is in unique position to influence how we move forward. I sincerely hope he finds the right words to calm this situation.

Did you notice how right wing nutjobs reacted to his speech in Dallas?
 

Blue_Max

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I understand the frustration but going to war with the police isnt going to make anyone safer.

Stop thumping your chest in your grand display of virtue-signalling.

They DON'T have a right to this level of frustration, or anything close to it. They're killing cops over a problem that doesn't exist. There are some much smaller issues to deal with, but making up some huge bullshit and killing over that is not only NOT helping, it's making the problem far, far worse.

You're supporting the falsehood. Don't.
 

SOFTengCOMPelec

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So the media shouldnt talk about police killing black people? Thats the solution? No.

That's a very good point.

But one of the problems is, that a news outlet may go on and on about a particular police shooting, making out that the police were to blame. Even though the evidence/investigation has not occurred yet. I.e. The details have not been released, which explains what happened, and why that police officer was just defending himself etc.

Which then can fuel tensions in the community, and (apparently) cause these terrible outrages. Such as the recent one, in Dallas.
 

Artdeco

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Did you notice how right wing nutjobs reacted to his speech in Dallas?

The one where he said teens can get Glocks easier than books or computers?

If he'd cool it with the rhetoric and his agenda he refuses to peruse, he'd get a lot farther with his cause. And when exactly did he lose his balls? He has the power to write executive orders.
 

Jhhnn

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Stop thumping your chest in your grand display of virtue-signalling.

They DON'T have a right to this level of frustration, or anything close to it. They're killing cops over a problem that doesn't exist. There are some much smaller issues to deal with, but making up some huge bullshit and killing over that is not only NOT helping, it's making the problem far, far worse.

You're supporting the falsehood. Don't.

Sounds peachy, but we don't know anything about the shooter in Baton Rouge.

Shee-it, Sherlock- there's not enough evidence to do anything other than speculate.
 

bshole

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That's a very good point.

But one of the problems is, that a news outlet may go on and on about a particular police shooting, making out that the police were to blame. Even though the evidence/investigation has not occurred yet. I.e. The details have not been released, which explains what happened, and why that police officer was just defending himself etc.

Which then can fuel tensions in the community, and (apparently) cause these terrible outrages. Such as the recent one, in Dallas.

Exactly. The media is intensely interested whenever a cop kills a black man. They are completely DISINTERESTED when a cop kills a white man. The average American ASSUMES based on the media's histrionics that police kill black people far more often than white people. If one looks at the objective data, it can be seen that white people are killed more often than black people by the police. It is tantamount to lying for ratings. They love adding fuel to fires, it puts money in their pockets.
 

LegendKiller

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So the media shouldnt talk about police killing black people? Thats the solution? No.
No, they shouldn't be furthering propaganda, false eyewitness statements and pr fuckery from these families. And they should be exposing the lies, contradictions, and evidence that sterling had priors, castile may not be squeeky clean, that cop on black killings are actually not racist, and not that common, and they should also focus on ongoing violence in urban areas.

Instead, they perpetuate the problem, deleted and "white hispanic" and putting child-like pictures up constantly, or pushing false narratives like "hands up, don't shoot" or not exposing shit like this...

Not necessary to repeat anything like that here.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ist-shaun-king-threatens-coup-u-s-trump-wins/

Or shit like this...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...leader-shabazz-will-violence-cleveland-video/

Or shit like this...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...es-criminals-white-house-lecture-cops-racism/

Or shit like this...

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_102600.shtml

I mean, where the fuck was Obama calling that shit out as inflammatory and completely contrary to what is needed? Radio silence.
 
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Jhhnn

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The one where he said teens can get Glocks easier than books or computers?

If he'd cool it with the rhetoric and his agenda he refuses to peruse, he'd get a lot farther with his cause. And when exactly did he lose his balls? He has the power to write executive orders.

An executive order... to do what, exactly?
 

bshole

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An executive order... to do what, exactly?

Yea it can't be executive order it has to be through rhetoric. It is a herculean task but Obama is our best hope in this incidence. He can make all the difference in the world.
 

SOFTengCOMPelec

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Exactly. The media is intensely interested whenever a cop kills a black man. They are completely DISINTERESTED when a cop kills a white man. The average American ASSUMES based on the media's histrionics that police kill black people far more often than white people. If one looks at the objective data, it can be seen that white people are killed more often than black people by the police. It is tantamount to lying for ratings. They love adding fuel to fires, it puts money in their pockets.

Maybe restrictions on reporting about such incidents, need to be in place, so that they can say "XYZ was shot by the police and unfortunately died in hospital, in XYZ. Police are investigating".
"Sorry but we can't report any more about this incident, until after the official investigation is finish and any court cases are finished".

On the other hand, we need freedom of the press.
But we can't have it whereby a policeman doing his job, shoots someone dead. Rightly or wrongly.
Then next week, someone shoots dead 4 policemen, apparently because of that shooting a few days ago.
 
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NAC4EV

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It will never happen.
We Americans can’t deal with” route causes” to all these shootings.
 

LegendKiller

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Maybe restrictions on reporting about such incidents, need to be in place, so that they can say "XYZ was shot by the police and unfortunately died in hospital, in XYZ. Police are investigating".
"Sorry but we can't report any more about this incident, until after the official investigation is finish and any court cases are finished".

On the other hand, we need freedom of the press.

But we can't have it whereby a policeman doing his job, shoots someone dead. Rightly or wrongly.

Then next week, someone shoots dead 4 policemen, apparently because of that shooting a few days ago.

It's not just the media. Look at what Mark Dayton did. The Castile's girlfriend goes on TV and claims nobody was giving CPR, nobody was helping, they detained her all night...etc. ALL LIES and Dayton, publicly, lashed out at the police for them without even knowing what happened. He claimed if it had been a white person they'd be alive. He didn't even know what happened.
 

WackyDan

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So... what we know for sure is that a nutcase armed with an "assault rifle" opened fire & killed Baton Rouge cops. The rest is speculative projection of the bullshit variety.

That part isn't even "for sure"
 

michal1980

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So the media shouldnt talk about police killing black people? Thats the solution? No.

they should talk about it proportionality. But black people getting killed by cops is now covered just like white girls kidnapped.

The lmsm fanned these flames, liberals should own the division they are helping spread throughout the country.

BLMs - only caring when a white cop kills a black person. Media now only cares when a white cop kills a black person.

Reality, as a black person you are hundreds of times more likely to be killed by another black person then a cop.

But that's boring news.
 

WackyDan

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Yea it can't be executive order it has to be through rhetoric. It is a herculean task but Obama is our best hope in this incidence. He can make all the difference in the world.

After the Castile shooting and Sterling shooting that fucker got on tv and fanned the flames of public opinions that were potentially and probably base on a false narrative already.

He is part of the problem and has chosen to be. No integrity. He has lost all credibility when he opens his mouth on these matters.
 

Balt

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A nutcase fueled by a media that in it's desperation for rating is actively engaged in dividing America around racial boundaries. I blame the media first and foremost.

Agree with this.

Yea it can't be executive order it has to be through rhetoric. It is a herculean task but Obama is our best hope in this incidence. He can make all the difference in the world.

Disagree with this. I think the power of rhetoric and a good speech is pretty diminished these days for a variety of reasons.
 

SOFTengCOMPelec

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It's not just the media. Look at what Mark Dayton did. The Castile's girlfriend goes on TV and claims nobody was giving CPR, nobody was helping, they detained her all night...etc. ALL LIES and Dayton, publicly, lashed out at the police for them without even knowing what happened. He claimed if it had been a white person they'd be alive. He didn't even know what happened.

That girlfriend (Castile's) seems to have really stirred things up, and as you say, it seems that she has been lying about things as well.

Because of the way court cases work, and police handle investigations. The police in the early stages (even if they know almost certainly the policeman was completely innocent), they have to keep the details secret.
Until they have finished their investigations, and so as to not ruin the possible court case, if needed.

This is quite a difficult and tricky problem to solve (in the US).
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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they should talk about it proportionality. But black people getting killed by cops is now covered just like white girls kidnapped.

The lmsm fanned these flames, liberals should own the division they are helping spread throughout the country.

BLMs - only caring when a white cop kills a black person. Media now only cares when a white cop kills a black person.

Reality, as a black person you are hundreds of times more likely to be killed by another black person then a cop.

But that's boring news.

I just saw on tv the other day where two presidents, a vice president and numerous other important people spoke about the deaths of white police officers for several hours.

I guess you missed that part, maybe it was too boring for you.
 

LegendKiller

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I just saw on tv the other day where two presidents, a vice president and numerous other important people spoke about the deaths of white police officers for several hours.

I guess you missed that part, maybe it was too boring for you.

And then they turn around and perpetuate race baiter screed and gun control.

Last I checked it's pretty easy to get a library card or go to B&N. But that wouldn't make a great soundbite.
 
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