Breaking News - Mass Murder of Cops in Lousiana

[Artdeco]

Jhhnn, still on the fence?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/17/police-shot-baton-rouge/

Shooter id'd 1/2 way down the page, Gavin Eugene Long.

 

[Artdeco]

before I assume, what you do think you're seeing in this picture and then I will tell you what I see. Should be interesting comparing the two opinions on this image.

Tell you what, tell me what they're chanting: I might be misinterpreting it.

https://youtu.be/05qQDD14r9w

You're an apologist embarrassment.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

You can't just go restricting what the press can say like that regardless of how much we dislike what they are saying.

I think you can, because in the UK, in some well defined (and somewhat common situations), essentially exactly that already happens.

Examples are things like terrorist arrests, are only reported as the names of the individuals, location and maybe very brief one line explanation of why. Right up until the end of their trial.
E.g. "XYZ and XYZ2 arrested in Manchester on suspicion of preparing for terrorism. A quantity of chemicals used in bomb making were also removed by police".

Things like people under a certain age (16 or 18), are kept secret from the press (the details of the crimes and victims are published). Even their names are withheld, even after they are sentenced and imprisoned. The idea is to stop them getting "marked" as criminals while still a child. Potentially harming the Child for the rest of their life.
Hopefully they are young enough (too old = less likely to learn from experience) and will learn to never do it again.

Let me help you because you and others seem to be stuck on stupid.
Anytime you hear about BLM, just remember, their slogan is really, black lives matter too.

I did not realize about the "too" bit.

That is better, but I still have my reservations. But that does gain more sympathy from me.

Maybe it's because BLM = "Black Lives Matter", so the "too" bit gets a bit forgotten.

 

[raildogg]

You guys focusing on these petty little groups are just wasting time and energy. Instead of us wasting time on them, why not focus on the bigger problem?

If people's attitudes and minds are decent, there would be no need for any special group or movement. Unfortunately, our minds are sickly and extremely selfish and that's why our problems are rising and will continue to rise. BLM or whatever other group is just a symptom of a diseased society.

By the way, that Fox video that was just linked is more fear mongering and hate spreading.

 

[Artdeco]

You guys focusing on these petty little groups are just wasting time and energy. Instead of us wasting time on them, why not focus on the bigger problem?

If people's attitudes and minds are decent, there would be no need for any special group or movement. Unfortunately, our minds are sickly and extremely selfish and that's why our problems are rising and will continue to rise. BLM or whatever other group is just a symptom of a diseased society.

By the way, that Fox video that was just linked is more fear mongering and hate spreading.

So, even when BLM supporters tweet to kill cops, and post on Facebook to kill police, and chant to kill police, they really don't mean it, right?

And the policemen murdered today weren't really killed, that's a vast right wing conspiracy?

I am awed at the mental gymnastics.

You have written, photographic and forensic evidence, what exactly more do you need?

 

[raildogg]

Hey man, you go ahead and live in your right vs. left world. I don't want to be a part of it.

I was just trying to possibly go after the real issues and not just some recently formed group might be replaced with another group.

 

[Artdeco]

Hey man, you go ahead and live in your right vs. left world. I don't want to be a part of it.

I was just trying to possibly go after the real issues and not just some recently formed group might be replaced with another group.

I'm intelligent enough to recognize shades of gray, you seem intent on pretending people aren't being killed.

To me, the worst part is this crap will end up accomplishing the opposite of it's intended effect.

I grew up with the public's attitude that the police can do no wrong, that decades later, there are means to protect the public from the blue wall gives me more hope than I've ever had for more justice from the legal system.

But instead of allowing things to wind out, we have this?

Pretend "Baton Rouge pigs" isn't trending on Twitter, but don't be surprised by the headlines tomorrow.

 

[Jhhnn]

First identify BLM leaders & then provide the cop killer tweets made by them.

You said you could, so have at it.

Keep telling yourself that.

Before you get all hot and bothered, that pic is from PBS after the BR officer murders.

That's not what you claimed you could provide at all. You said-

I can find dozens of these chants on you tube, post a thousand tweets of BLM leaders and supporters calling to kill the police.

I called you out on that & now you dance away.

 

[Jhhnn]

Jhhnn, still on the fence?

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/07/17/police-shot-baton-rouge/

Shooter id'd 1/2 way down the page, Gavin Eugene Long.

And... so what? Is there any indication that he's associated with BLM? Do we have any indications as to intent? Do we have the slightest idea how it unfolded?

The only thing that holds true for sure is my original premise- a nut case with a gun.

They do seem to like guns. Hell, they're fashion accessories in some circles.

 

[Artdeco]

That's not what you claimed you could provide at all. You said-



I called you out on that & now you dance away.

Enjoy your ignorance.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Never has America needed a Martin Luther King Jr more.

Yeah, too bad that he was shot and killed.

 

[x26]

This has escalated so fast that it boggles mind. All of the rhetoric has done its job. The rhetoric has got to stop. The media is more to blame than anybody.

^^ ^^

 

[raildogg]

^^ ^^

Ok, we are blaming the media and so is every other comment in the comment section across the internet. So what now? Will blaming Obama and the media do anything other than to satiate certain political agendas?

The real problem is us - we humans. This is the world we have created. We talk about inclusiveness yet we're as tribal as ever. Instead of saying "Man kills another man," we say "White man kills black man." That's not inclusive.

It's really crazy. We now have these groups like BLM who are using racism to fight racism. It's like bombing countries to promote peace. You're not going to get anywhere this way.

It starts with each person. Unless we truly create some kind of harmony in ourselves there is nothing that can be done. No matter how politically correct this society gets, it's all on the surface. Underneath, we're just as tribal as ever - maybe even more.

 

[raildogg]

I'm intelligent enough to recognize shades of gray, you seem intent on pretending people aren't being killed.

To me, the worst part is this crap will end up accomplishing the opposite of it's intended effect.

I grew up with the public's attitude that the police can do no wrong, that decades later, there are means to protect the public from the blue wall gives me more hope than I've ever had for more justice from the legal system.

But instead of allowing things to wind out, we have this?

Pretend "Baton Rouge pigs" isn't trending on Twitter, but don't be surprised by the headlines tomorrow.

I understand what your saying. It is sad how we are living.

Someplace online, I saw people post supportive and positive comments after the Dallas officers were shot. It's really sad and shows how hateful people are. They probably have been carrying these hateful feelings for quite a while now and the internet is now allowing them to vent their rage. This is especially true because they can post anonymously or at least sitting behind a computer/phone screen. But it shows how misguided people are. We are easily led astray.

 

[Blue_Max]

It's really crazy. We now have these groups like BLM who are using racism to fight racism.

A cop shooting a genuine CRIMINAL is not "racism". The few examples of genuine error or negligence also shows no bias. I'm sorry - as much as you may want it to be in order to further your own agendas, it just isn't.

 

[raildogg]

Please read more carefully before jumping to conclusions. But maybe you would rather jump to conclusions rather than reading carefully.

 

[IronWing]

This has escalated so fast that it boggles mind. All of the rhetoric has done its job. The rhetoric has got to stop. The media is more to blame than anybody.

Personally, I think the killers are to blame.

 

[justoh]

We now have these groups like BLM who are using racism to fight racism.

Feel i have to point this out every other day:

racist

noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

I don't know how you think a black american could ever think his race superior when his whole life is spent living in a white man's world. It's not just me being pedantic (this time). They perceive specifically white cops to be the enemy, because they perceive them to be instruments of oppression, whether rightly or wrongly. So to the extent that this could be tied to BLM, it wouldn't be racism. Basically what i'm saying is know your tupac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8sfgrq0qDM

 

[michal1980]

Feel i have to point this out every other day:

racist


I don't know how you think a black american could ever think his race superior when his whole life is spent living in a white man's world. It's not just me being pedantic (this time). They perceive specifically white cops to be the enemy, because they perceive them to be instruments of oppression, whether rightly or wrongly. So to the extent that this could be tied to BLM, it wouldn't be racism.

Your dictionary is different then oxford:

"rac·ist.
[ˈrāsəst]
NOUN
1.a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another"

 

[JSt0rm]

Your dictionary is different then oxford:

"rac·ist.
[ˈrāsəst]
NOUN
1.a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another"

its virtually the same with different wording. lmao

 

[justoh]

Your dictionary is different then oxford:

Alright. I'll use oxford from now on.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/then

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/than

They have good entries for these words as well.

 

[raildogg]

Feel i have to point this out every other day:

racist


I don't know how you think a black american could ever think his race superior when his whole life is spent living in a white man's world. It's not just me being pedantic (this time). They perceive specifically white cops to be the enemy, because they perceive them to be instruments of oppression, whether rightly or wrongly. So to the extent that this could be tied to BLM, it wouldn't be racism. Basically what i'm saying is know your tupac: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8sfgrq0qDM

The point being made was to illustrate a point. I just used the example of BLM, that is all. Though, the term "Black Lives Matter" is exclusive and divisive, just in its name alone. If their goal is better treatment of blacks, I doubt they will get the results - especially when factoring their name. But who really knows what the goals are. A lot of these groups crop up claiming one thing but their actions don't really help their cause.

BLM is not relevant to be honest. We need to move beyond talking about little groups like these towards talking about the bigger picture. One step might be to accept that one cannot divisiveness with more divisiveness.

 

[Artdeco]

The problem is we've been forced into a politically correct corner where discussing the issues gets you in trouble.

We can't fix anything without being able to openly and honestly discuss the issues.

Heck, some words not even commonly associated with a particular ethnicity get you vacationed/banned here. And it's worse in the court of public opinion.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

My condolences to the families, friends, and coworkers of the police officers who were killed and injured.

 

[DrDoug]

Shooter identified as Gavin Long. Interesting twist, that's for sure.