Breaking News - Mass Murder of Cops in Lousiana

[Jhhnn]

Again, written, video, audio and forensic evidence with 8 dead cops and what a dozen & a half shot, and you play head in the sand games. And the media isn't even covering single cop deaths anymore.

How the hell do you think this crap plays in flyover states? Is this winning over the moderate liberals on the coasts?

I'm not going to play your game, you want to ignore the reality of corpses in our streets, go right ahead, they're stacking up, how many do you need? 100? 200?

Meanwhile, the police get more anxious, afraid and trigger happy enforcing laws our politicians wrote.

So, uhh, moar guns, or what? I'm sure that cops are just thrilled with the fact that AR style carbines are the most popular rifles in America, just what a shooter wants when they're crazy enough to go up against the police or a crowd of people. They're superb combat weapons & not really suitable for anything else that matters.

And the whole schtick about putting it off on BLM is bullshit, as if that's what riled people up rather than it being the result. It's not like BLM exists for no good reason.

What if their grievances are legitimate in ways you won't take the trouble to understand?

 

[FelixDeCat]

LOL. Where's the "organized"?. Each of these recent attacks were pulled off by lone gunmen. You can be sure that domestic militants are being tracked 24/7 by the FBI.

God help the police when they decide to actually attack as organized groups. And rest assured, that day will come soon.

Sadly though if that happens that could mean a loss of freedoms for all people. It could mean martial law, curfews, checkpoints and deployment of the National Guard in major cities.

Also gun control and lots of it. People who abuse freedoms lose them, even if the majority of people are upstanding and law abiding.

This whole calling for revenge killings has got to stop - now!

 

[Jaskalas]

The murder of these cops can be directly tied to cops murdering black people.

The media has fabricated lies of murder such as in Ferguson.
Cops are dying based on those lies.

 

[Artdeco]

So, uhh, moar guns, or what? I'm sure that cops are just thrilled with the fact that AR style carbines are the most popular rifles in America, just what a shooter wants when they're crazy enough to go up against the police or a crowd of people. They're superb combat weapons & not really suitable for anything else that matters.

And the whole schtick about putting it off on BLM is bullshit, as if that's what riled people up rather than it being the result. It's not like BLM exists for no good reason.

What if their grievances are legitimate in ways you won't take the trouble to understand?

That the broken system is constantly screwing them, over and over?

That we essentially monetarily destroy them, and jail them, kill them & destroy their lives?

I understand the problems, killing the foot soldiers isn't the answer.

 

[umbrella39]

huh, felt more spatial to me

You may be right... I am going purely on invented persona MO - come here, pretend you are/were a democrat - morph into white supremacist in a week...

In any event, clearly and EBT, the account creation 3/14/2015 first post 6/25/2016 gave it away. Added to PLONK list like those before him and for those that will surely follow...

 

[Rhonda the Sly]

This whole calling for revenge killings has got to stop - now!

There are very few calling openly for revenge killings and those that do have no real power or following.

 

[Jhhnn]

That the broken system is constantly screwing them, over and over?

That we essentially monetarily destroy them, and jail them, kill them & destroy their lives?

I understand the problems, killing the foot soldiers isn't the answer.

True, but BLM doesn't advocate that at all despite your earlier assertions you're running away from.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Sadly though if that happens that could mean a loss of freedoms for all people. It could mean martial law, curfews, checkpoints and deployment of the National Guard in major cities.

You think that if, say, five men go on a rampage and kill 25 police officers in Miami we'll see martial law in the US? Or even in Florida?

Won't happen. Because, just like when there's a bomber in Boston, and there's genocide in Rwanda, you and I will still be stopping at Starbucks on the way to work, we'll still be watching results of the ballgame at work, and we'll still be enjoying ribeyes and drinking beer and watching the sunset in the evening. Maybe that's the harsh reality, or maybe it's the reality that we're glad about - the fact that the odds of something like this affecting any of us are extremely extremely small.

 

[emperus]

The real problem is us - we humans. This is the world we have created. We talk about inclusiveness yet we're as tribal as ever. Instead of saying "Man kills another man," we say "White man kills black man." That's not inclusive.

It's really crazy. We now have these groups like BLM who are using racism to fight racism. It's like bombing countries to promote peace. You're not going to get anywhere this way.

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It may not be inclusive, but I don;t think cops abusing the rights of black people is inclusive either. The difference is the former is simply calling out the problem.

I wonder do people also have a problem with campaigns like "feed the poor"? Do you guys believe that it should be feed everyone?

 

[Artdeco]

You may be right... I am going purely on invented persona MO - come here, pretend you are/were a democrat - morph into white supremacist in a week...

In any event, clearly and EBT, the account creation 3/14/2015 first post 6/25/2016 gave it away. Added to PLONK list like those before him and for those that will surely follow...

And you live in an echo chamber, and will never change.

Dunno WTF happened to my posts before 6/25, but I've been posting the whole time.

 

[Subyman]

This shit just pushes the police to become more militarized.

But I guess demanding stuff like a citizen's oversight committee of PD's isn't as much fun as protesting and shooting police.

Goes both ways for sure. Police gearing up and treating some people as enemy combatants then those folks eventually become enemies. Ramping up on either side just makes this worse. We need to reset the field and come together.

 

[mxnerd]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/17/us/baton-route-police-shooting/

Gavin Long of Kansas City went on a shooting rampage on his 29th birthday that left two police officers and a sheriff's deputy dead, police sources said. Long, who was African-American, was a former Marine who spent time in Iraq and was discharged at the rank of sergeant in 2010, according to the U.S. military.

So another veteran against government officers after they were back from IRAQ? See how much damage a war can make !

 

[Artdeco]

Goes both ways for sure. Police gearing up and treating some people as enemy combatants then those folks eventually become enemies. Ramping up on either side just makes this worse. We need to reset the field and come together.

I sure as hell don't want the police more militarized, but that's what the end result of this kind of thing does.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So another veteran against government officers after they were back from IRAQ? See how much damage a war can make !

I don't think their service in a war zone had much if any impact of them choosing to shoot police officers. There are hundreds of thousands of veterans that served Iraq and Afghanistan who have not taken up guns against the police.

 

[IronWing]

I don't think their service in a war zone had much if any impact of them choosing to shoot police officers. There are hundreds of thousands of veterans that served Iraq and Afghanistan who have not taken up guns against the police.

That's true. There are thousands of BLM protestors who have also not taken up guns against the police. The question needs more consideration.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I don't think their service in a war zone had much if any impact of them choosing to shoot police officers. There are hundreds of thousands of veterans that served Iraq and Afghanistan who have not taken up guns against the police.

I suspect that the point he's making relates to the issue that wars sometimes break people and some of those broken people do things like kill other people after they come home.

 

[emperus]

I don't think their service in a war zone had much if any impact of them choosing to shoot police officers. There are hundreds of thousands of veterans that served Iraq and Afghanistan who have not taken up guns against the police.

Looking at the data points. 2 killings of police. 2 were ex-military.

 

[Genx87]

Armed and organized black militants need to be identified and tracked 24 hours a day by the FBI to prevent future police killings.

Otherwise you have a situation similar to Somalia, Afghanistan or Rowanda where only tribal leaders rule and justice is meted out to all who do not submit to mob rule. This is what happens when respect for life or rule of law is not cherished.

Given the two attacks on police were carried out by former members of the military. In your way of doing things sounds like they should focus there.

 

[Darwin333]

Yeah, and the murder of these cops can be tied directly to others jumping to conclusions and not doing their investigative reporting and telling everybody that these people were great role models and were obviously innocent.

Yet ironically here you are jumping to conclusions.

 

[Genx87]

Sadly though if that happens that could mean a loss of freedoms for all people. It could mean martial law, curfews, checkpoints and deployment of the National Guard in major cities.

Also gun control and lots of it. People who abuse freedoms lose them, even if the majority of people are upstanding and law abiding.

This whole calling for revenge killings has got to stop - now!

I guarantee you if this is treated like Iraq we will get Iraq in our cities.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yet ironically here you are jumping to conclusions.

Yin and yang.

 

[michal1980]

True, but BLM doesn't advocate that at all despite your earlier assertions you're running away from.

really, so when BLM in MN was chanting 'pigs in a blanket, fry'em like bacon'.

They were talking about food?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lanket-fry-em-like-bacon-chant-Minnesota.html

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Looking at the data points. 2 killings of police. 2 were ex-military.

Also they were both black. So based on this should the FBI concentrate their efforts looking into the backgrounds/social media accounts of all black veterans that served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan to see if they can prevent anymore attacks against the police?

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

Misunderstanding understood! No problem...

Regarding the protests and killings... nuts attach themselves to movements and nuts act out because of movements. This guy came down to BR to do this, this was not the actions of locals (who are the ones dealing with police problems in BR). This guy may have been inspired to act because of the protests, much like killers of abortion clinic doctors over here, but until I see evidence proving a link I am not going to blame the BLM movement. I'm not in a rush to judgment because nothing I say on the internet will change a damned thing.

Hell, I read that the BR police were adamant in pointing out that this guy had no links with the local protesters.

I completely agree with you.
In this thread, our (including myself) jumping to conclusions as to the motivations of this killer, are sort of just as bad as the BLM(T) group jumping to conclusions about a recent police shooting. In some senses only, not really in a BAD way.

The problem is, in life, that when you have big protests and stuff like that, there can always be extremists and people who love excuses and violence, who will turn it into a terrible tragedy.

I think that single individuals tend to be relatively well behaved. But when those same individuals, are in huge chanting crowds of people. It can energize and persuade people, to do things they would not even dream of in normal real life.

For example:
A group of normally well behaved members of the protest group, start beginning to attempt to set fire to some cars. Before you know it, a group of 10 or 20 of them, have set fire to 4 vehicles.

Things can escalate from that, and before you know it, a mini-riot is taking place. Then someone starts firing shots in the air, and the riot police arrive.

Before you know it, there can be casualties and another tragedy.

Protests sooner or later, can go bad. Even really bad.

Hopefully things will get sorted out, and quieten down.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Also they were both black. So based on this should the FBI concentrate their efforts looking into the backgrounds/social media accounts of all black veterans that served in Iraq and/or Afghanistan to see if they can prevent anymore attacks against the police?

At least the ones that actively engaging racial, armed militant social media.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/bat...pect-identified-as-gavin-eugene-long-reports/

A suspected gunman in the ambush that killed three Baton Rouge police officers on Sunday was a Missouri man who orchestrated the attack on his 29th birthday and may be linked with an anti-government group.

NBC and CBS News identified the gunman as Gavin Eugene Long of Kansas City, who was born on July 17, 1987. Long was killed in the attack. Local authorities said there is no longer an “active shooter” in the area.

Without mentioning him by name, the Wall Street Journal reported that Long was part of an anti-government group called the New Freedom Movement.

Long also reportedly went by the name “Cosmo Setepenra” [on Youtube], and billed himself as a “Freedom Strategist,” “Alpha Preneur,” and “Mental Game Coach,” among other titles. Buzzfeed reported that on his podcast, Long said he had been “blacklisted” by employers since leaving the Marines, even though he was discharged honorably.

“I also had a friend tell me that the government threatened him not associate to closely with me,” said Long. “Essentially it’s isolation. They don’t want the spirit of courage to spread. Because their whole gimmick is fear.”

In another installment, he insisted that he was not affiliated with any group, specifically rejecting ties to the Islamic State terrorist group.
“I’m affiliated with the spirit of justice — nothing else,” he said.

Watch Long’s video, as posted online, below.

Its not that hard to filter these accounts, get addresses, and start investigating who is who. Im sure the FBI has sophisticated means to determine who has the rhetoric, arms and expressed intent to take action.

Then you bring them in for questioning and let them know they are being tailed 24x7.