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lopri

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The official bumper looks OK but it makes the phone way too wide.
 

Shackanaw

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So far over the holiday weekend, I'm finding the on-screen battery life to be pretty decent, though taking it to work will be the real test as I get horrible connectivity there and I don't use my corporate wifi.

However, I'm finding the standby drain to be quite a bit higher than my Note 2. While not in use throughout the day, the phone slowly, but constantly drains down.

I'm at 35% now with 2hr 15min of on screen use with nothing but surfing and standyby- no games, streaming etc.

Google services (6%), Phone idle (6%), and Cell standby (4%) seem a bit higher than on my Note 2 in the evening, but not hugely so (maybe a few percent higher for each item). But with this type of usage, I'd be between 50-60% on my Note 2. Makes me a bit concerned about the workday. Nothing else stands out (screen is 51%, browser is 10%).

Any tips about the N4 non-use time?

When my Wi-Fi router died in my house, and my phone tried to use the very poor data signal in my house, my battery would drain very fast. If you can live without data while you're at work or in areas with poor signal quality, disable mobile data. With it disabled, I get fantastic standby time.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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I actually am intrigued by those "sugru".

If it stuck I might have tried it out for a while, but my sugru packets were pretty old, so the stuff fell off pretty easy. Id imagine with new sugru you wouldnt have this problem. I put a sugru nub on my keyboard when i first ordered the stuff and it is super strong.

I put the ringke case back on, and im cool with it i guess. It was a big shock in phone size for me, and I went from a galaxy nexus, back down to a 4.3" gs2, and then to this phone with a case, so it was just a little shocking at first. I think the extra width makes it seem bigger as well when comparing it to the galaxy nexus.

I know the trend is to get bigger and bigger, but if the new nexus phone is any bigger than this, I think they'll go too far. I can't imagine them making it with as thin of a bezel and as sleek as the gs4, and the nexus 5 screen is rumored to be .2" bigger than that.
 

dawheat

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When my Wi-Fi router died in my house, and my phone tried to use the very poor data signal in my house, my battery would drain very fast. If you can live without data while you're at work or in areas with poor signal quality, disable mobile data. With it disabled, I get fantastic standby time.

So as of an hour ago (2:20pm), my phone was down to 39% with normal usage at work - starting at 100% at 7:30am. Everything on mobile data, about 1.5 hours of on-screen time (mostly browsing), and an hour of Pandora. My Note 2 would be notiably better at this juncture - at min over 50%, closer to 60%.

So the N4 seems to have similar battery performance to my old S3 thus far.
 
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So far over the holiday weekend, I'm finding the on-screen battery life to be pretty decent, though taking it to work will be the real test as I get horrible connectivity there and I don't use my corporate wifi.

However, I'm finding the standby drain to be quite a bit higher than my Note 2. While not in use throughout the day, the phone slowly, but constantly drains down.

I'm at 35% now with 2hr 15min of on screen use with nothing but surfing and standyby- no games, streaming etc.

Google services (6%), Phone idle (6%), and Cell standby (4%) seem a bit higher than on my Note 2 in the evening, but not hugely so (maybe a few percent higher for each item). But with this type of usage, I'd be between 50-60% on my Note 2. Makes me a bit concerned about the workday. Nothing else stands out (screen is 51%, browser is 10%).

Any tips about the N4 non-use time?

The N4 unfortunately struggles from something known as the msm_hsic wakelock. There's really nothing that can be done unless Google/Qualcomm addresses this. But the root cause is in that the modem is tied to the USB bus.
 

lopri

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Obligatory brag shot. :biggrin:



It's T-Mobile's famous $30 unlimited data plan. Unfortunately I cannot use it for my daily phone because its dead zones (and limited voice minutes), but if someone lives/works/plays where T-Mobile's LTE coverage is good, this Nexus 4 + LTE is a heck of a combo.
 

Tom

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And still, no one in their right mind would buy a used Nexus 4 for more than $200 either. I certainly wouldn't, and would advise anyone who asks not to.

This official price reduction sets the Nexus 4 (and any other comparable phones) at a certain level (i.e. around $200 for 8 GB). Regardless of the Nexus 4's availability from Google Play Store, the used market of comparable phones (including used Nexus 4) will be compared to that.

Now that the Nexus 4 hasn't been available from Google for a while, the used price has actually gone UP, not down.

Good luck finding a nice used N4 for $200.
 

cronos

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Now that the Nexus 4 hasn't been available from Google for a while, the used price has actually gone UP, not down.

Good luck finding a nice used N4 for $200.

This is ~50 days after our original discussion, did you bookmark this thread to make sure you can get vindication later?

Either way, I will stand by my statement. This current pricing situation for the Nexus 4 is simply a classic example of demand-supply situation, which is just temporary until the Nexus 5 is announced potentially in the next few days/weeks. You are posting this at the exact point where the Nexus 4 (perceived) value is at peak. And I think you know that. A week or two later and your moment will pass

I personally still wouldn't buy a used Nexus 4 (or even brand new, for that matter) or any other comparable phones for more than $200, today October 23rd 2013, and I will advise anyone who wants my opinion to do the same.

What about you? If you're looking for a phone and you have to buy today, will you pay the $250-$280 or whatever they're selling the used Nexus 4 at swappa today knowing that it was originally sold by Google for $200? I would definitely advise you against it, but hey it's your money
 
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