Breaking: Shooting at CT elementary school

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GagHalfrunt

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Yea it wasn't a kid at the elementary school. Apparently its where his mom worked and he had family issues (surprise)

Okay, if you have family issues shoot your parents. I've heard enough horror stories to understand some people wanting to kill their parents and I've heard plenty of parents that deserve it. But what motivates someone to kill 18 innocent kids? That's beyond sick and it's beyond "issues".
 
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Mother F

I just found out my aunts friend's kid goes to that school. Parents are heading over there now.....hope they are ok.

They should legalize torture for cases like this. Put this scumbag in the city square and tie him up to the pole.

Give him minimal water and food to survive as people from the town and surrounding cities/states come visit to poke at him.

Heck, video tape it and put it on you tube for every person to see.

Watch, you will never EVER see such a crime AGAIN. EVER

um this is America. a nation full of retards running the country(and living in it).

just can't get over this. at first this morning i heard about the shooting but only heard 1 was dead, assuming it to be the shooters.

an hour ago i was on lunch and saw the numbers

i have a 5 year old niece and it's horirble to even think about.
 

Phokus

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I got it from another forum.



Well i saw this on another forum, so if his facebook is spreading around and he's not the guy, that's why these things shouldn't be posted...

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Matt Bors
‏@MattBors
He has posted repeatedly in the last few minutes that it is not him, but I don't think you can see the posts unless you are friends with him
 
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HydroSqueegee

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I'm going to hug my son twice as hard when I get off work. This is really painful to hear. I know one thing for sure, if this were to ever happen to my son, the fucker better kill themselves or I'll do it for them.

makes all the stupid little shit they do to piss you off feel completely insignificant.
 

KeithTalent

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Well i saw this on another forum, so if his facebook is spreading around and he's not the guy, that's why these things shouldn't be posted...

Wow, if that is accurate, completely fucked up that people were pinning it on him. Dude could have gotten killed already because of that.

KT
 

eits

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Taking them away from law abiding citizens will not keep criminals from getting them. Look at how many people still get illegal drugs everyday in this country, how many gangbangers get guns on the street everyday. All gun control laws will do is raise the prices of guns on the black market.

Poor solution to the problem.

yes it will.

look, law abiding citizens become criminals when they legally buy guns and shoot up schools. take away the guns and, guess what, a decrease in school shootings. will they probably still happen? yeah. will they happen at a frequency of once per month anymore? proibably not.

in all honesty, better gun control will be the answer. allowing people to only buy guns that need to be reloaded after firing a couple times is probably the best answer. you can still hunt and protect yourself, but you can't go around shooting up schools for extended periods of time spraying off over a hundred bullets. seriously, it's like bolt action rifles and revolvers should be the only legal firearms anymore.
 

LookBehindYou

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Disclaimer - I am not for banning guns just posting something I just thought of.

With all this banning guns talk I just thought of something. We always talk about banning guns not having an effect because criminals will still find ways to get them. But what about cases like this and the theater shooter.

These aren't criminals, would stricter gun laws prevent ordinary people who are fucked in the head but not full time criminals from getting their hands on them? These aren't the typical people who have the underground/black market connections to buy illegal guns.

On that same note, how many times have you seen typical criminal types, such as gang bangers and drug dealers commit mass shootings as this?

Again, I am not for stricter gun laws, and I love my 2a rights, just posting for discussion.
 

StinkyPinky

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Disclaimer - I am not for banning guns just posting something I just thought of.

With all this banning guns talk I just thought of something. We always talk about banning guns not having an effect because criminals will still find ways to get them. But what about cases like this and the theater shooter.

These aren't criminals, would stricter gun laws prevent ordinary people who are fucked in the head but not full time criminals from getting their hands on them? These aren't the typical people who have the underground/black market connections to buy illegal guns.

On that same note, how many times have you seen typical criminal types, such as gang bangers and drug dealers commit mass shootings as this?

Again, I am not for stricter gun laws, and I love my 2a rights, just posting for discussion.

It certainly restricts them in other countries but for some reason people think we're a different species of human and it wont work here.
 

mmntech

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It'll come out that he had known symptoms of mental illness, maybe was even seeing a psychiatrist. It's the same thing every time.

Every time an incident happens like this, everyone talks about banning guns. However, very few people seem to ever bring up the biggest issue: the abysmal state of mental healthcare across much of the world. Even if you ban all guns, it doesn't really solve the problem. You still have hordes of sick and potentially dangerous people not getting the care they sorely need.

The problem really started when they began closing the lunatic asylums in the 60s and replaced them with community level care. It left the burden of care in the hands of the sick, who often are unfit to make rational decisions. The community care has proven inadequate at helping mentally ill people. The asylums may have been terrible places but at least it gave them somewhere to go where they'd be able to get long term care. Instead we decided in our infinite wisdom to put dangerous people out on the streets assuming they'd be responsible enough to take their meds.

The other part of the problem is that we as a society like to pretend mental illness doesn't exist. Even when someone shows symptom after symptom, nobody says anything. There's still a huge stigma about it. That's got to change. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
 

OverVolt

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yes it will.

look, law abiding citizens become criminals when they legally buy guns and shoot up schools. take away the guns and, guess what, a decrease in school shootings. will they probably still happen? yeah. will they happen at a frequency of once per month anymore? proibably not.

in all honesty, better gun control will be the answer. allowing people to only buy guns that need to be reloaded after firing a couple times is probably the best answer. you can still hunt and protect yourself, but you can't go around shooting up schools for extended periods of time spraying off over a hundred bullets. seriously, it's like bolt action rifles and revolvers should be the only legal firearms anymore.

A decrease in school shootings and an increase in school bombings. The school is already a "gun free zone." And gun laws in NJ are already restrictive.

People who do this shit have major problems, he killed his own mom & dad. If you plan on doing a murder suicide, this may not seem obvious to everyone apparently, but no laws will stand in your way other than someone catching wind of your scheme and locking you up.

I don't know what kind of "ingenius" laws you think can be cooked up to discern between a regular personal and a messed up person.
 
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Red Storm

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Oct 2, 2005
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Gun laws aside, we need better security at schools, at the very least with elementary schools.
 

StinkyPinky

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It'll come out that he had known symptoms of mental illness, maybe was even seeing a psychiatrist. It's the same thing every time.

Every time an incident happens like this, everyone talks about banning guns. However, very few people seem to ever bring up the biggest issue: the abysmal state of mental healthcare across much of the world. Even if you ban all guns, it doesn't really solve the problem. You still have hordes of sick and potentially dangerous people not getting the care they sorely need.

The problem really started when they began closing the lunatic asylums in the 60s and replaced them with community level care. It left the burden of care in the hands of the sick, who often are unfit to make rational decisions. The community care has proven inadequate at helping mentally ill people. The asylums may have been terrible places but at least it gave them somewhere to go where they'd be able to get long term care. Instead we decided in our infinite wisdom to put dangerous people out on the streets assuming they'd be responsible enough to take their meds.

The other part of the problem is that we as a society like to pretend mental illness doesn't exist. Even when someone shows symptom after symptom, nobody says anything. There's still a huge stigma about it. That's got to change. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Yes, mental health treatment is very poor in this country.

But they are linked. If you allow mentally ill people to go to walmart and buy semi-auto weapons then there is going to be problems. In other countries mentally ill people usually go on rampages with knives and not with guns right from a rambo movie.
 

pontifex

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Yes, mental health treatment is very poor in this country.

But they are linked. If you allow mentally ill people to go to walmart and buy semi-auto weapons then there is going to be problems. In other countries mentally ill people usually go on rampages with knives and not with guns right from a rambo movie.

people with documented mental illness are not allowed to buy guns.

no is going on rampages with fully automatic weapons, let's get that straight. Don't try to make this into something it's not.
 

American Gunner

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I'm going to hug my son twice as hard when I get off work. This is really painful to hear. I know one thing for sure, if this were to ever happen to my son, the fucker better kill themselves or I'll do it for them.
This! If this were to happen to one of my sons, I would make sure the person that did it died a slow and painful death.
 
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