Breast feeding in restaurants?

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: jpbelauskas

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis
I had lunch today at my favorite New York Pizzaria today, and on the way to the bathroom I see a women take her breast out and start breast feeding her baby. Now, I am a woman, and a strong supporter of women's rights. I just don't know what to think about this. Is this behavior appropriate in a restaurant setting, or should the women have pumped her breast milk earlier and bottle feed the child in public? Thoughts?

Haahahhaha....

Jesus, how removed are you from procreation that you would even ask this question. Only in America.

Breastfeeding is how babies up to age 2 or so eat, nearly exlusively. Yes babies can survive off of other foods and substitutes, but even the Surgeon general upholds a min. 6 mo. preferably 1 year. Babies have to eat a lot. Infants have to eat every two hours. It is a law that babies can eat wherever adults are allowed to eat.

Why TF are you surprised and upset that a person is breastfeeding in a restaurant? You eat there, why can't a baby?

Actually, I wasn't offended by the breast feeding. The reason I posted this question was because I wasn't sure how to feel about it. I completely agree that children should receive their mother's milk for at least the first two years, but it is the method of delivery in public which I am discussing.

The only reason to ask this question is if you consider the breast to be a solely sexual object. It isn't. Once you accept this basic biological fact it's not that different than someone applying Bengay to a sore muscle on their chest. Yes, we don't usually see that part of the body, it's a little weird, but it's nothing to call the cops over.

Perhaps you are right, in the sense that we have sexualized breast to where it is uncomfortable to see a women exposing her breast in a restaurant to feed a child, but I would also argue that the more civilized our society becomes, certain actions become more private. For example, having sex out doors. If you follow the logic in the breast feeding issue, then why is it against the law for people to have sex in public places? Why are we so divorced from the reality of procreation that we contain such behavior to private places?

Because it would be inappropriate show this behavior to children, and that's the only reason. Children are not yet sexual, they can't engage in sexually significant behavior (they can't procreate) so, they can't be shown sexual behavior. That's it, it's that simple.
If you're at an adult part and want to fvck every man jack there go for it, you're not hurting anyone.

This has less to do with children and more to do with the U.S. 's Puritan heritage. If you go many other coutries, they don't feel so ashamed/paranoid about the human body. Many of these countries actually teach their kids about this through normal every day human behavior, teaching that it IS ok to breast feed a baby in public and things of that nature.

I'd agree with regards to general nudity and like, but I've spent quite a bit of time in Europe and never saw breast-feeding in public. Then again, I've never seen it in the US either.

It wouldn't bother me, but I'd consider it rather crude/trashy, especially if a blanket wasn't used. If you're in a restaurant or theater, go out to your car or something.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: jpbelauskas

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis
I had lunch today at my favorite New York Pizzaria today, and on the way to the bathroom I see a women take her breast out and start breast feeding her baby. Now, I am a woman, and a strong supporter of women's rights. I just don't know what to think about this. Is this behavior appropriate in a restaurant setting, or should the women have pumped her breast milk earlier and bottle feed the child in public? Thoughts?

Haahahhaha....

Jesus, how removed are you from procreation that you would even ask this question. Only in America.

Breastfeeding is how babies up to age 2 or so eat, nearly exlusively. Yes babies can survive off of other foods and substitutes, but even the Surgeon general upholds a min. 6 mo. preferably 1 year. Babies have to eat a lot. Infants have to eat every two hours. It is a law that babies can eat wherever adults are allowed to eat.

Why TF are you surprised and upset that a person is breastfeeding in a restaurant? You eat there, why can't a baby?

Actually, I wasn't offended by the breast feeding. The reason I posted this question was because I wasn't sure how to feel about it. I completely agree that children should receive their mother's milk for at least the first two years, but it is the method of delivery in public which I am discussing.

The only reason to ask this question is if you consider the breast to be a solely sexual object. It isn't. Once you accept this basic biological fact it's not that different than someone applying Bengay to a sore muscle on their chest. Yes, we don't usually see that part of the body, it's a little weird, but it's nothing to call the cops over.

Perhaps you are right, in the sense that we have sexualized breast to where it is uncomfortable to see a women exposing her breast in a restaurant to feed a child, but I would also argue that the more civilized our society becomes, certain actions become more private. For example, having sex out doors. If you follow the logic in the breast feeding issue, then why is it against the law for people to have sex in public places? Why are we so divorced from the reality of procreation that we contain such behavior to private places?

Because it would be inappropriate show this behavior to children, and that's the only reason. Children are not yet sexual, they can't engage in sexually significant behavior (they can't procreate) so, they can't be shown sexual behavior. That's it, it's that simple.
If you're at an adult part and want to fvck every man jack there go for it, you're not hurting anyone.

This has less to do with children and more to do with the U.S. 's Puritan heritage. If you go many other coutries, they don't feel so ashamed/paranoid about the human body. Many of these countries actually teach their kids about this through normal every day human behavior, teaching that it IS ok to breast feed a baby in public and things of that nature.

If your response is directed at me it makes no sense. FYI.

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Descartes
There's a time and a place for everything, including breast feeding. It's not a question of whether or not it's wrong, disgusting, sensual, or anything else in my opinion; rather, it's more likely that it's simply poor etiquette along the same level of bringing a noisy child into a movie. In nicer restaurants I would expect the child be left at home either way.

I'll take a hundred breastfeeding women in a restaurant over one noisy child in a movie theater. :disgust:

I didn't ask you for your opinion, but thanks anyway. I was equating it to etiquette.

LOL so I guess I shouldn't respond unless you specifically direct the question at me? Sorry this is a discussion forum. When you post something you're essentially asking for EVERYONE'S opinion

If your etiquette dictates that breastfeeding in public is in bad taste then there's something wrong with your etiquette, not breastfeeding in public.

Let me break it down for you:

I said I believe it's an issue of etiquette. I wasn't eliciting opinions on whether or not you felt the child-in-a-theater comment was along the same level. This is why I said I'm not asking for your opinion.

You don't feel it's an issue of etiquette, or perhaps you just don't feel it's poor etiquette. I personally don't care either way, but I could just as easily say there's something wrong with your etiquette. That gets us nowhere though, does it?

The predominant argument in this thread is that of it being sensual in nature. I'm offering a different perspective, so argue my perspective if you wish but not your preferences/opinions, stating mine as "wrong", etc.

Thanks.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Let me break it down for you:

I said I believe it's an issue of etiquette. I wasn't eliciting opinions on whether or not you felt the child-in-a-theater comment was along the same level. This is why I said I'm not asking for your opinion.

You don't feel it's an issue of etiquette, or perhaps you just don't feel it's poor etiquette. I personally don't care either way, but I could just as easily say there's something wrong with your etiquette. That gets us nowhere though, does it?

The predominant argument in this thread is that of it being sensual in nature. I'm offering a different perspective, so argue my perspective if you wish but not your preferences/opinions, stating mine as "wrong", etc.

Thanks.

K I can dig it, and I apologize for dismissing your statement without a logical argument to back it up.

I contend that if one of the purposes of public breastfeeding was to entice or sexually arouse those of the opposite sex, then there would be basis for limiting it. But the fact remains that it's not. Chances are the hypothetical mother doesn't give a damn whether you get off on her exposed breast or not. She's just attending to the needs of her child. The fault lies in those who view her "dirtypillows" as sexual objects that should never see the light of day.

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Descartes
There's a time and a place for everything, including breast feeding. It's not a question of whether or not it's wrong, disgusting, sensual, or anything else in my opinion; rather, it's more likely that it's simply poor etiquette along the same level of bringing a noisy child into a movie. In nicer restaurants I would expect the child be left at home either way.

I'll take a hundred breastfeeding women in a restaurant over one noisy child in a movie theater. :disgust:

200 breastfeeding women over someone talking on their cel phone in the restaurant.

 

[ultimatebob]

I think that it should be allowed, but only for the attractive large breasted women!

<--- How's THAT for dirty minded and sexist!

 

[lizardth]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
I have no problem with a woman breastfeeding her child whenever and where ever she and the baby are comfortable.

:thumbsup:

 

[jadinolf]

I tried it with my gf.

They tossed us out.

 

[mrrman]

my ex did it before..no big deal

 

[dandruff]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I don't mind as long as I get a sip.

made my day ... ty

 

[ijester]

Originally posted by: SlitheryDee

Originally posted by: Descartes
There's a time and a place for everything, including breast feeding. It's not a question of whether or not it's wrong, disgusting, sensual, or anything else in my opinion; rather, it's more likely that it's simply poor etiquette along the same level of bringing a noisy child into a movie. In nicer restaurants I would expect the child be left at home either way.

I'll take a hundred breastfeeding women in a restaurant over one noisy child in a movie theater. :disgust:

FTW!!!!!:disgust:

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
I have no problem with a woman breastfeeding her child whenever and where ever she and the baby are comfortable.

Precisely. A woman's feeding her baby some of the most nutritious stuff a baby can get. And hey, it's a restaurant. Only complaint they should have is that she's bringing in outside food.

Originally posted by: moshquerade
it's only offensive to those with a dirty mind.

Aren't those people technically impossible to offend?

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I don't mind as long as I get a sip.

LOL, new milk ad campaign............. *** Got Milk? cuz I wanna a sip or two****

I hope you still want your sip if the mom looks just like Rosann Barr...LOL.

My closest encounter with human milk was with a bottle of milk from a gal just went back to work after she gave birth to her son. She got the milk, put it in the bottle, the bottle then went in the refrig. The human milk was like cloudy water, not like the one at the supermarket.

 

[OCNewbie]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: jagec
I thought nature intended them as a boost to the sex drive of the male...sort of like pheremones, y'know. You mean there's another purpose?

looks like you just got an education boy.

Oh, c'mon, next you'll be telling me that women can have orgasms too.

LOL =)

 

[CaptnKirk]

I'm all for it, put it on the menu . . .

 

[B00ne]

I cant understand why ppl would have a problem with breastfeeding. Even if the offended tends to immature dirty thaughts - it is not like one would see the breast, after all usually there is a beaby head in front of it - unless the women does not own the clothes for breastfeeding that are available and is going fully nude to whip'em out

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
I'm all for it, put it on the menu . . .

That could present a hardship for waitresses

 

[sao123]

Due to upcoming federal bills specifying that lactation rooms need to be supplied in the workplace (similar to handicap access) several places in my area already have lactation rooms... a room specifically devoted for nursing mothers...
I do state that if this legislation passes, and if such a room is available it should be used, as opposed to in plain view.

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: artemis
I had lunch today at my favorite New York Pizzaria today, and on the way to the bathroom I see a women take her breast out and start breast feeding her baby. Now, I am a woman, and a strong supporter of women's rights. I just don't know what to think about this. Is this behavior appropriate in a restaurant setting, or should the women have pumped her breast milk earlier and bottle feed the child in public? Thoughts?

Haahahhaha....

Jesus, how removed are you from procreation that you would even ask this question. Only in America.

Breastfeeding is how babies up to age 2 or so eat, nearly exlusively. Yes babies can survive off of other foods and substitutes, but even the Surgeon general upholds a min. 6 mo. preferably 1 year. Babies have to eat a lot. Infants have to eat every two hours. It is a law that babies can eat wherever adults are allowed to eat.

Why TF are you surprised and upset that a person is breastfeeding in a restaurant? You eat there, why can't a baby?

Because we're not allowed to bring outside food, so why can he/she? They don't even tip.

 

[zendari]

It's kind of like me pulling my pants down and ripping a new one in public.

 

[Jdog1718]

I think that they should (if possible) use a pump and bottle feed while in public places, just as courtesy of others. I do understand that it can be an inconvience of doing this though. I just see it strange how women can be so uptight about public nudity and then as soon as they have a baby their game to sling it all out there. If women continue breast feeding in public... I probably won't really care, but I'm sure I'll probably stare a little. I think thats something that these women will have to deal with if their going to do it.

 

[imported_nautique]

I had a younger lady who had a child breast feed 2 times while we were on an airplane. And this was a very small jet, small enough where your shoulders are basically touching. I didn't mind but just thought it made it ackward because if i wanted to look out the window, something else was in my view!

 

[TGS]

Originally posted by: zendari
It's kind of like me pulling my pants down and ripping a new one in public.

Wow...just wow....

For the love of crimminy folks...WTF is a breast and a nipple for again? Ahh that's right for feeding a child. The breast is only sexual to those that make it. My wife has breastfed our two children and even *I* was hesitant at first. Why because I felt uncomfortable with my wife pull out her breasts to feed our child. Then I realized what a beautiful thing it was to share special moments with our children.

You want to know what pumps are really for? The men. My wife worked on the weekends to get some free time, so she would have to pump beforehand so our babies would have milk. Not because we were afraid of people saying something... Don't even get me started about these asinine comparisons between flatulence and breastfeeding.

The only people I've ever seen have a problem with public breastfeeding( and oh dear the most you can see is the side of a breast...someone save the children) are:

1. People without kids
2. Uncomfortable with their significant others baring portions of their breast.


Some people need to look to some examples of female fashion and wonder why you are complaining about breastfeeding, but would gladly see a beautiful women parading around in nothing but a bikini and high heels...

 

[esun]

Frankly, who cares? Does it really affect you? I try to take the apathetic stance toward everything, and it really applies in this case. I see no reason why anyone should care that someone is breastfeeding her child in a restaurant. If you feel offended, then consider why? Is there any good reason? Most likely, nobody will care that you're offended, either, so it'd be best to get over it anyway. Most people don't care, and most people don't care about the people that care, so it really doesn't matter.

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: nautique
I had a younger lady who had a child breast feed 2 times while we were on an airplane. And this was a very small jet, small enough where your shoulders are basically touching. I didn't mind but just thought it made it ackward because if i wanted to look out the window, something else was in my view!

You're lucky she was nursing the baby. The changes in air pressure are murder on an infant's ears and cause the baby to cry in pain usually. Nursing relieves that. You could have been stuck next to a crying baby instead of a quiet one.