Breast milk enters Chinese cuisine.

[imported_Tomato]

Nutricious and delicious!

Peace,
Dezign

 

[imported_Tomato]

Doh, repost. Neva mind.

 

[XZeroII]

I wonder how they obtain that milk. I can think of 2 ways. One involves technology (think cows) and the other involves some lucky guy.

 

[Mallow]

I guess it could boost your immune system b/c it has leukocytes in it. That is how the baby has a decent immunity system before it builds it's own.

 

[Aquaman]

:Q

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[imported_Tomato]

The milk used so far is reported to have come from six peasant women who were still breast-feeding their children.

Yikes.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Mallow
I guess it could boost your immune system b/c it has leukocytes in it. That is how the baby has a decent immunity system before it builds it's own.

Yeah but would not the heat from the cooking process kind of devalue that?

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Dezign

The milk used so far is reported to have come from six peasant women who were still breast-feeding their children.

Yikes.

I would have though they would have more milkee's since China has such a large population

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: Mallow
I guess it could boost your immune system b/c it has leukocytes in it. That is how the baby has a decent immunity system before it builds it's own.

I don't think so, leukocytes (white blood cells) do not cross the placental barrier. Immunoglobulin made by the mother's leukocytes are what cross into the fetus' blood.

 

[godspeedx]

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Mallow
I guess it could boost your immune system b/c it has leukocytes in it. That is how the baby has a decent immunity system before it builds it's own.

I don't think so, leukocytes (white blood cells) do not cross the placental barrier. Immunoglobulin made by the mother's leukocytes are what cross into the fetus' blood.

Anyone care to argue against that?

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: godspeedx

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: Mallow
I guess it could boost your immune system b/c it has leukocytes in it. That is how the baby has a decent immunity system before it builds it's own.

I don't think so, leukocytes (white blood cells) do not cross the placental barrier. Immunoglobulin made by the mother's leukocytes are what cross into the fetus' blood.

Anyone care to argue against that?

Argue against what? Go to any search engine and take a look.

 

[Sundog]

Found on the first site on the first search engine:



Antibodies, which are also called immunoglobulins, take five basic forms, denoted as IgG, IgA, IgM, IgD and IgE. All have been found in human milk, but by far the most abundant type is IgA, specifically the form known as secretory IgA, which is found in great amounts throughout the gut and respiratory system of adults. These antibodies consist of two joined IgA molecules and a so-called secretory component that seems to shield the antibody molecules from being degraded by the gastric acid and digestive enzymes in the stomach and intestines. Infants who are bottle-fed have few means for battling ingested pathogens until they begin making secretory IgA on their own, often several weeks or even months after birth.

The secretory IgA molecules passed to the suckling child are helpful in ways that go beyond their ability to bind to microorganisms and keep them away from the body's tissues. First, the collection of antibodies transmitted to an infant is highly targeted against pathogens in that child's immediate surroundings. The mother synthesizes antibodies when she ingests, inhales or otherwise comes in contact with a disease-causing agent. Each antibody she makes is specific to that agent; that is, it binds to a single protein, or antigen, on the agent and will not waste time attacking irrelevant substances. Because the mother makes antibodies only to pathogens in her environment, the baby receives the protection it most needs-against the infectious agents it is most likely to encounter in the first weeks of life.

Second, the antibodies delivered to the infant ignore useful bacteria normally found in the gut. This flora serves to crowd out the growth of harmful organisms, thus providing another measure of resistance. Researchers do not yet know how the mother's immune system knows to make antibodies against only pathogenic and not normal bacteria, but whatever the process may be, it favors the establishment of "good bacteria" in a baby's gut.

Secretory IgA molecules further keep an infant from harm in that, unlike most other antibodies, they ward off disease without causing inflammation-a process in which various chemicals destroy microbes but potentially hurt healthy tissue. In an infant's developing gut, the mucosal membrane is extremely delicate, and an excess of these chemicals can do considerable damage. Interestingly, secretory IgA can probably protect mucosal surfaces other than those in the gut. In many countries, particularly in the Middle East, western South America and northern Africa, women put milk in their infants' eyes to treat infections there. I do not know if this remedy has ever been tested scientifically, but there are theoretical reasons to believe it would work. It probably does work at least some of the time, or the practice would have died out.

 

[StageLeft]

I don't know where to start on this one...

 

[pandapanda]

From the same site, but further down on the page:

As is true of defensive molecules, immune cells are abundant in human milk. They consist of white blood cells, or leukocytes, that fight infection themselves and activate other defense mechanisms. The most impressive amount is found in colostrum. Most of the cells are neutrophils, a type of phagocyte that normally circulates in the bloodstream. Some evidence suggests that neutrophils continue to act as phagocytes in the infant's gut. Yet they are less aggressive than blood neutrophils and virtually disappear from breast milk six weeks after birth. So perhaps they serve some other function, such as protecting the breast from infection.

http://www.promom.org/bf_info/sci_am.htm

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: pandapanda
From the same site, but further down on the page:

As is true of defensive molecules, immune cells are abundant in human milk. They consist of white blood cells, or leukocytes, that fight infection themselves and activate other defense mechanisms. The most impressive amount is found in colostrum. Most of the cells are neutrophils, a type of phagocyte that normally circulates in the bloodstream. Some evidence suggests that neutrophils continue to act as phagocytes in the infant's gut. Yet they are less aggressive than blood neutrophils and virtually disappear from breast milk six weeks after birth. So perhaps they serve some other function, such as protecting the breast from infection.

http://www.promom.org/bf_info/sci_am.htm

And you are absolutely correct! I got the fetus (placental barrier) mixed up with after the baby is born, and this article is about the milk.


OK, it still wouln't help anyone if the milk has been cooked or heated.

 

[newbiepcuser]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I don't know where to start on this one...

 

[EvilYoda]

we Chinese so silly. I wonder what my parents think about this...

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

"When the customers are having the human milk banquet, they can experience maternal love at the same time."

 

[joohang]

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I don't know where to start on this one...

 

[SuperTool]

You can get AIDS from breastmilk. Now chow down

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: pandapanda
From the same site, but further down on the page:

As is true of defensive molecules, immune cells are abundant in human milk. They consist of white blood cells, or leukocytes, that fight infection themselves and activate other defense mechanisms. The most impressive amount is found in colostrum. Most of the cells are neutrophils, a type of phagocyte that normally circulates in the bloodstream. Some evidence suggests that neutrophils continue to act as phagocytes in the infant's gut. Yet they are less aggressive than blood neutrophils and virtually disappear from breast milk six weeks after birth. So perhaps they serve some other function, such as protecting the breast from infection.

http://www.promom.org/bf_info/sci_am.htm

Ouch. Sundog got owned hardcore.

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: pandapanda
From the same site, but further down on the page:

As is true of defensive molecules, immune cells are abundant in human milk. They consist of white blood cells, or leukocytes, that fight infection themselves and activate other defense mechanisms. The most impressive amount is found in colostrum. Most of the cells are neutrophils, a type of phagocyte that normally circulates in the bloodstream. Some evidence suggests that neutrophils continue to act as phagocytes in the infant's gut. Yet they are less aggressive than blood neutrophils and virtually disappear from breast milk six weeks after birth. So perhaps they serve some other function, such as protecting the breast from infection.

http://www.promom.org/bf_info/sci_am.htm

Ouch. Sundog got owned hardcore.

BFD!

At least I owned up to my mistake and added to the dialogue. I haven't even worked in a lab for over 10 years, and what I said was true, but true pre-birth for the placental barrier ....why don't you contribute something instead of trying to do nothing but increase your post count.:frown:

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
we Chinese so silly. I wonder what my parents think about this...

Only one way to find out. You got $35,000?

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: SSP

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
we Chinese so silly. I wonder what my parents think about this...

Only one way to find out. You got $35,000?

$35K.......just nuts, guess we know who will be dining on this!

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: Sundog

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: pandapanda
From the same site, but further down on the page:

As is true of defensive molecules, immune cells are abundant in human milk. They consist of white blood cells, or leukocytes, that fight infection themselves and activate other defense mechanisms. The most impressive amount is found in colostrum. Most of the cells are neutrophils, a type of phagocyte that normally circulates in the bloodstream. Some evidence suggests that neutrophils continue to act as phagocytes in the infant's gut. Yet they are less aggressive than blood neutrophils and virtually disappear from breast milk six weeks after birth. So perhaps they serve some other function, such as protecting the breast from infection.

http://www.promom.org/bf_info/sci_am.htm

Ouch. Sundog got owned hardcore.

BFD!

At least I owned up to my mistake and added to the dialogue. I haven't even worked in a lab for over 10 years, and what I said was true, but true pre-birth for the placental barrier ....why don't you contribute something instead of trying to do nothing but increase your post count.:frown:

If you mean contributing by copy and paste a website content, then inaccurately interpret the information. Sure, I could do that if it pleases you.