You do realize that this means you are the only one frothing right? Of course not.Your eyes do indeed deceive you... I guarantee that plenty of people here are a part of the group I mentioned frothing at the mouth demanding murder in the 1st degree charges.
That's why the Republican AG is refusing to release it.until we get the grand jury info speculation is all we have
You may want to go back and look at the record. Police leaked BJ had pot in his system which was completely irrelevant to the shooting.Not even in the same ballpark. Surprised you aren't saying "hands up".
This site feels like a bunch of bullshit. Off to investigate.UPDATED: Shocking Report Leaked in Breonna Taylor Death Investigation Shows How Involved She Really Was
UPDATE: New Investigative Files have been exclusively leaked to the Tatum Report. At the bottom of this page, you'll find the original leaked report as well as the newly leaked files and pictures from Breonna Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker's phone. An anonymous source has provided the Tatumwww.tatumreportexclusive.com
Because that would break the narrative and open the police up to more questioningWhy has nobody talked about BT's boyfriend's right to defend himself in their home? He tried to call 911 which means he clearly didn't know it was the police at the door.
There should be some accountability, but it seems like many institutions just stand in the way, from both the local level all the way to the top. Take a look at numerous Supreme Court rulings on the exclusionary rule for evidence - as recently as 2014, it was decided that "honest mistakes" were perfectly fine (also, LOL at "honest", considering all the testilying going on by cops). Or the catch-22 of getting around qualified immunity: you need to prove prior precedent of something being a violation of civil rights, but you can't get prior precedent because qualified immunity crushes those lawsuits.Since evidence to date indicates the cops should have not been there in the first place, manslaughter seems appropriate. Don't drunk drivers get serious jail time even though they don't intend on killing anyone?
Why can't we question the grand jury? The old saying is that a grand jury could indite a ham sandwich - they are spoon fed evidence by prosecutors to reach what seem to be preordained outcomes. Why do you think all these cases end up with a grand jury instead of prosecutors directly charging, as they do in so many other non-police cases? It's so that they have political cover to throw up their hands and sweep it all under the rug.I'm not one to question the grand jury simply because I hope they have the actual evidence from the case rather than the absolute nonsense that's been spouted online for months.
Why can't we question the grand jury? The old saying is that a grand jury could indite a ham sandwich - they are spoon fed evidence by prosecutors to reach what seem to be preordained outcomes. Why do you think all these cases end up with a grand jury instead of prosecutors directly charging, as they do in so many other non-police cases? It's so that they have political cover to throw up their hands and sweep it all under the rug.
As an african american, I have mixed feelings about the case. Firstly the fact that the grand jury reached no indictment on higher charges is baloney. It mostly shows that the case was sabotaged from the beginning. Grand jurys have no defense. A prosecutor can simply say my assessment of the situation warrants charges and a trial and they get it because if that's the only evidence submitted there is no counter evidence. Grand juries are not trials; they are basically one sided shows that should always lead to a pre-determined outcome. This outcome was a finding of not guilt, and by default it was pre-determined.
I do think overall, you can't throw people in jail for returning fire when fired upon.
However, you can throw people in jail for making mistakes that lead to this type of situation. If an engineer make a mistake that leads to a bridge collapsing, they go to jail for negligence. The same should be true here. Someone was clearly negligent and make preventable mistakes and that led to a death. They should face the law.
It's also sad that there was no indictment for bullets entering a black neighbors home but only for those that entered the homes of a white neighbor.
My general assessment of the situation is it was rigged from the get-go which makes the whole thing stink. The fact that this lady is dead and STILL no one had admitted wrong doing is a travesty.
ding....ding....dingAs an african american, I have mixed feelings about the case. Firstly the fact that the grand jury reached no indictment on higher charges is baloney. It mostly shows that the case was sabotaged from the beginning. Grand jurys have no defense. A prosecutor can simply say my assessment of the situation warrants charges and a trial and they get it because if that's the only evidence submitted there is no counter evidence. Grand juries are not trials; they are basically one sided shows that should always lead to a pre-determined outcome. This outcome was a finding of not guilt, and by default it was pre-determined.
I do think overall, you can't throw people in jail for returning fire when fired upon.
However, you can throw people in jail for making mistakes that lead to this type of situation. If an engineer make a mistake that leads to a bridge collapsing, they go to jail for negligence. The same should be true here. Someone was clearly negligent and make preventable mistakes and that led to a death. They should face the law.
It's also sad that there was no indictment for bullets entering a black neighbors home but only for those that entered the homes of a white neighbor.
My general assessment of the situation is it was rigged from the get-go which makes the whole thing stink. The fact that this lady is dead and STILL no one had admitted wrong doing is a travesty.
There is so much bullshit being spread about this case.
Some actual facts:
At the time of the raid the police had already arrested the suspect, her ex-boyfriend.
At the time the warrant was served the police had been specifically told not to serve the warrant as a No-Knock Warrant because it had already been determined that the information used to get the no-knock part was not valid.
There was no known police surveillance of Breonna Taylor's place. They were doing the search simply because her ex-boyfriend had used the location to ship a package to a few months before. The police lied about having reason to believe the package held illegal substances.
No cash or drugs was found in Breonna Taylor's apartment.
The police have lied about a number of thing in this case, both before and after the warrant was served. Breonna Taylor's death was caused by police misconduct. IMHO they criminally overstepped their authority and broke into her house because they had convinced themselves that she was involved in Glover's drug dealing, even though they had basically no evidence.
The judge who signed off on the warrant with out the proper review and the DA are both complicit in this, and they are now covering their own asses now.
I don't think this should be murder in the first or whatever KY's equivalent is, but some people need to be held responsible. This is exactly what the BLM movement is fighting against. The law makes assumptions, oversteps their authority, and then when it ruins peoples lives they cover it up.
If the information in the warrant was valid how did the police wind up there?I've done a lot of "fact finding" on this case and I haven't seen the bolded parts of your post anywhere. In fact I've found mostly the opposite. Now, do I trust those sources 100%? No... But I have no clue where you got your info from...
Releasing the testimony would show that they actually didn't try to get a convictionThat's why the Republican AG is refusing to release it.
If the information in the warrant was valid how did the police wind up there?
How about if cops shoot at me, can I return fire, or do I just have to die because the police shoot at me?The police are shot at - and you would deny them returning fire?
Hell no.
Meaning the person they were really looking for was already in custody so how could that warrant be valid?I have no idea what you're asking. The warrant was valid as far as I know, so it was served.
Meaning the person they were really looking for was already in custody so how could that warrant be valid?
As an african american, I have mixed feelings about the case. Firstly the fact that the grand jury reached no indictment on higher charges is baloney. It mostly shows that the case was sabotaged from the beginning. Grand jurys have no defense. A prosecutor can simply say my assessment of the situation warrants charges and a trial and they get it because if that's the only evidence submitted there is no counter evidence. Grand juries are not trials; they are basically one sided shows that should always lead to a pre-determined outcome. This outcome was a finding of not guilt, and by default it was pre-determined.
I do think overall, you can't throw people in jail for returning fire when fired upon.
However, you can throw people in jail for making mistakes that lead to this type of situation. If an engineer make a mistake that leads to a bridge collapsing, they go to jail for negligence. The same should be true here. Someone was clearly negligent and make preventable mistakes and that led to a death. They should face the law.
It's also sad that there was no indictment for bullets entering a black neighbors home but only for those that entered the homes of a white neighbor.
My general assessment of the situation is it was rigged from the get-go which makes the whole thing stink. The fact that this lady is dead and STILL no one had admitted wrong doing is a travesty.
I agree with most of this. I would, however, point out, that paying Taylor's family a whopping $12 million settlement was an admission of liability and fault, even if the settlement papers technically say otherwise. Which brings me to my second point: that harm caused by negligence is ordinarily addressed civilly, less often addressed criminally. This is true even for the general public, much less police or other government officials.
I mainly agree about grand juries, except to say that there are cases where a DA seeks a finding of probable cause for trial, but doesn't get it from the grand jury. However, if what the DA really wants is a finding of no probable cause, all the DA has to do it not submit all relevant evidence.
Since whether the police properly executed the knock and identify warrant is the pivotal issue in the case, what I really want to know is did they submit only the officers and the one resident saying they identified themselves, or did they also present testimony of the other residents saying they heard nothing? This is something I think the public should know.
I think the part that is tiresome to me is how many of these situations become "he said, she said" arguments where we should have body cameras to back up claims. I don't really know if it's enforceable on such a level, but what about a Federal requirement for law enforcement officers to have to use them? Some may decry that it's overstepping or some sort of invasion of privacy; however, I suggest that if you expect to have qualified immunity during your job, you need to be able to have proper evidence to show that you're acting in accordance with the strict guidelines that you're given.