Brexit: How the Conservative Right screwed England and makes Trump/Republican incompetencies look small

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K1052

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Of course there are clearly some who voted 'leave' without thinking through the implications.

My amusement is over this particular group of people who thought that the UK would just leave, everything would be amazing, and that it could never impact them personally.
 
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Lifer
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Not exactly a surprise. I was puzzled how Johnson had got his Brexit 'done' by simply ignoring the Unionists. Seems he hasn't gotten away with it after all.

Apparently this is also indirectly yet another bad effect of the pandemic as part of the grievance is a predictable argument about whether lockdown rules are enforced equally/fairly across communities.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Brexit stage two - it's war!




I have no idea what's going on here, but that host looks like the boss in IT Crowd, so is this video older?
 

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Lifer
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The best kind of smokescreen for the conservatives to carry on selling out the UK, lock stock and barrel.

Yeah, I think it's partly that. Boris throwing a dead cat onto the table. But it does sound like Macron is doing the same sort of thing - he has a similar agenda of his own with regard to France, it seems. Blockading part of a country and cutting off its electricity supply seems provocative to say the least. Lord knows what naval vessels are supposed to do when they get there, though.

I don't really understand the fishing issue at all. It's a kind of licenced pillaging, it seems. But it doesn't seem like the EU has done a great job of managing fish stocks. I've never been much of a fish-eater, and when I hear that fish is good for you and decide maybe I should eat more of it, I discover the rest of you have already eaten it all.
 

KMFJD

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i glossed over it but there is a 200 year old treaty that states the French can fish in the waters and the British have reduced the number of licenses drastically (they now have only 10% or something like that of what they used to)

there's also the issue of overfishing
 
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misuspita

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It's election day. So what's better than rattle a nationalist anthem for the brexit crowd? Smoke and mirrors
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Yeah, I think it's partly that. Boris throwing a dead cat onto the table. But it does sound like Macron is doing the same sort of thing - he has a similar agenda of his own with regard to France, it seems. Blockading part of a country and cutting off its electricity supply seems provocative to say the least. Lord knows what naval vessels are supposed to do when they get there, though.

I don't really understand the fishing issue at all. It's a kind of licenced pillaging, it seems. But it doesn't seem like the EU has done a great job of managing fish stocks. I've never been much of a fish-eater, and when I hear that fish is good for you and decide maybe I should eat more of it, I discover the rest of you have already eaten it all.
Idiot fisherman will fish till there are no fish unless controlled.
 

KMFJD

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just a quick update, Britain appears to be demanding things and the EU rejects it outright ?

The EU has rejected the UK’s demand to rip up the Northern Ireland Protocol, within three hours of the audacious demand being made in Parliament.
“We will not agree to a renegotiation of the Protocol,” said Maros Sefcovic, the European Commission’s vice president, in an official statement.
The rejection came after a new UK “command paper” insisted the agreement – hailed as “a fantastic deal” by Boris Johnson, when Brexit was sealed in 2019 – must be frozen and radically reworked.
 

sdifox

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LoL we want to renegotiate whenever we feel like it. Great plan.
 
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IronWing

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The Irish government has to be thinking about this very hard. If they close the border to protect their position in the EU, it destabilizes the peace agreement in occupied Ulster. If they leave the border open to British goods they can make bank on transshipment of said goods to the rest of the EU. What to do, what to do.
 

IronWing

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wouldnt it be fucking awesome if Europe started backing Ireland and shit all over England?
The EU subsidized the crap out of Ireland for many years, creating the “Emerald Tiger “. Once the Irish economy was in good shape, the EU moved the subsidies to Eastern Europe and the multinationals that milked the subsidies in Ireland packed up and moved east.
 

UNCjigga

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I want this thread to stand as a reminder that Conservatives are utterly incapable of learning from their mistakes. Even with a turd like Brexit, the idiots who pushed for it will never admit they were wrong. David Cameron (Labour?) can call it his greatest regret not even 2 years later, but the Boris wing and the Reformers and UKIPs will always believe their ideology was sound.
 

sdifox

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I want this thread to stand as a reminder that Conservatives are utterly incapable of learning from their mistakes. Even with a turd like Brexit, the idiots who pushed for it will never admit they were wrong. David Cameron (Labour?) can call it his greatest regret not even 2 years later, but the Boris wing and the Reformers and UKIPs will always believe their ideology was sound.
Err Cameron is a Conservative cvnt.
 
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Jhhnn

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The Irish government has to be thinking about this very hard. If they close the border to protect their position in the EU, it destabilizes the peace agreement in occupied Ulster. If they leave the border open to British goods they can make bank on transshipment of said goods to the rest of the EU. What to do, what to do.

The only way to get Brexit was to put NI into the EU customs arrangement, so they did. Now they're trying to take it back, of course.
 

KMFJD

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Aside from a few exceptions, all French ports will no longer be accessible to British boats

things appear to be escalating a bit

-"This is not a war, but a fight," Girardin told French radio station RTL Thursday morning. A second series of French retaliatory measures is being prepared, a government statement said, adding that, "in this context, France does not exclude re-examining the supply of energy provided to the UK."
 

K1052

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Aside from a few exceptions, all French ports will no longer be accessible to British boats

things appear to be escalating a bit

-"This is not a war, but a fight," Girardin told French radio station RTL Thursday morning. A second series of French retaliatory measures is being prepared, a government statement said, adding that, "in this context, France does not exclude re-examining the supply of energy provided to the UK."

The French are also threatening the electricity supplies to the Channel Islands.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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Just so you know, half of the UK now believes Brexit was the wrong decision, compared with only 38% who believe Brexit was right. That gap is growing somewhat, though there are still a fair number of “undecideds” as well.

The audacity of the British people to second guess this decision! Don’t they have their own version of Faux News (Sky?) spoon-feeding them bullshit to make them feel better about themselves??

Anyway, just some food for thought regarding what can happen when we allow a conservative minority to make rash decisions about our future based on some false notions of our “glorious” past.
 
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