Brian Krzanich resigns as intel ceo

[Phynaz]

Is there any reason to believe otherwise?

Really? That's how you reply to someone asking for proof?

I should have known, the adults all left Anandtech long ago. Anandtech Forums, the National Enquirer of tech. The AMD fanboys can all get in their circle jerk and chant "Intel is dead".

Oh Mark, don't bother with the infraction, I won't be back. You're one of the main reasons why this place died when it became an AMD echo chamber. I'm sure Purch is really happy with all the traffic you've driven off their site.

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[scannall]

That's why I don't get all the hate for the guy. As far as making profit he's been stellar. I don't understand all the 'worst CEO ever' stuff.

They kinda ate their future to get those record profits though. Pre-Ryzen, all these process delays, no real work on a new architecture, high prices and Meltdown in particular didn't really matter since there was no real competition anyway. They were going by past AMD performance and more than a little hubris. They certainly could have been better prepared for 2019 and beyond.

 

[EXCellR8]

Really? That's how you reply to someone asking for proof?

I should have known, the adults all left Anandtech long ago. Anandtech Forums, the National Enquirer of tech. The AMD fanboys can all get in their circle jerk and chant "Intel is dead".

Oh Mark, don't bother with the infraction, I won't be back. You're one of the main reasons why this place died when it became an AMD echo chamber. I'm sure Purch is really happy with all the traffic you've driven off their site.

Geez man, maybe get back on your meds? Welcome to the internet.

Anyway, seems like a small infraction was all the company needed to use as an excuse to get rid of him. Happens all the time.

 

[coercitiv]

Do you have any proof he is?

We don't have proof it's because of the 10nm struggle, but the entire little drama looks like a pure theatrical distraction.

Sources have told CNBC that 'Krzanich violated a policy that said he could not have a relationship with an employee who directly reported to him. The relationship ended and took place "some time back," the people said. It's unclear with whom Krzanich had the relationship. The company was only recently made aware of the relationship, at which point they began probing and Krzanich was asked to resign'.

So we're expected to believe the board just found out about a past relationship and swiftly decided to fire their CEO after a record profit year?! This may be grounds for a graceful hand-off, not a quick and dirty removal.

 

[senseamp]

They had to get rid of him, but the way they did it, man, that's cold.

 

[ultimatebob]

Yeah, I have to wonder how eager Intel was to get rid of their CEO after the Spectre and Meltdown patch debacle. If it wasn't for that issue plus Intel losing the desktop performance crown to AMD, they probably would have let Brian have a harem in his office if he wanted one

 

[PhonakV30]

Really? That's how you reply to someone asking for proof?

I should have known, the adults all left Anandtech long ago. Anandtech Forums, the National Enquirer of tech. The AMD fanboys can all get in their circle jerk and chant "Intel is dead".

Oh Mark, don't bother with the infraction, I won't be back. You're one of the main reasons why this place died when it became an AMD echo chamber. I'm sure Purch is really happy with all the traffic you've driven off their site.

an AMD Hater with AMD Vision avatar, amazing

 

[jpiniero]

Remember BK said when asked about the stock sale that a large portion of his wealth was in Intel stock. Quitting of course lets him sell the remainder of the stock while it is so high.

 

[AtenRa]

But the terrible job he has been doing,

That's why I don't get all the hate for the guy. As far as making profit he's been stellar. I don't understand all the 'worst CEO ever' stuff.

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[turtile]

That's why I don't get all the hate for the guy. As far as making profit he's been stellar. I don't understand all the 'worst CEO ever' stuff.

It's really the board's doing that is doing Intel in but Brian had to follow what they say (I have no idea if he would be good or bad on his own). The board pushed out the last CEO because he didn't get into the mobile market and Brian was meant to replace him and fix the issue. But this was a total failure. I'm assuming the 10nm issues are all to do with push into mobile which is destroying the one market Intel is reaping record profits.

 

[wahdangun]

Wtf, it's crazy way, I mean with something like this I'm expecting the new CEO is some kind of monk or saint.

 

[Markfw]

Well, its not un-expected IMO. First there is Ryzen, then Meltdown/spectre, then 10 nm failure, then the "show" at CES with 28 cores@5 ghz.

They have already tried the dog and pony show, whats next ? I wish they would just work at getting a new/inovative affordable product out, instead of all the BS.

 

[PeterScott]

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There is more to being a good CEO than generating good current quarterly numbers.

Things like losing your dominant competitive position, don't necessarily hit the bottom line over night, they are of longer term impact.

Intel has completely failed in Mobile.

They have allowed their total dominance over AMD CPUs to be eroded to parity.

They have ceded their #1 position in semiconductor revenue to Samsung (first time in 25 years).

They have ceded their process lead to TSMC, with their endlessly delayed 10nm process.

Lack of architecture progress. Skylake, Kabylake, Coffeelake are all essentially the same.

ARM processor are poised to start taking business from Laptop/Desktop strongholds of Microsoft (Already happening) and Apple (Rumored).

It's a record of failures that are eventually going to hit the bottom line.

Then you get baffling things like Kaby Lake-X, and the horrible 5GHz Demo, that just make Intel management look even more inept if the above wasn't enough.

It's a loss of leadership positions on multiple fronts, and baffling decisions under BK. He should have been replaced some time ago. His tenure has been a mess. Intel kept making money largely on interia, not advancement.

 

[ondma]

Personally, I am glad to see him go and hope intel can find someone to get them back on track. I am sure the 10nm problems were a big part of it. I don't really know how he can be blamed for spectre/meltdown though, that is an exploit of a design choice that goes back many generations.
I also would not minimize the inappropriate relationship. Having a relationship with a subordinate is a classic case of violation of the rules. Yes, I am sure many have gotten away with it, but we are in a totally different climate now. Just look at Sen. Franken. He was basically forced to resign for touching someone at a picture session in a public place. This was also not brought to light until many years after the incident.

 

[ondma]

Yeah, I have to wonder how eager Intel was to get rid of their CEO after the Spectre and Meltdown patch debacle. If it wasn't for that issue plus Intel losing the desktop performance crown to AMD, they probably would have let Brian have a harem in his office if he wanted one

The have only "lost" the desktop performance crown in apps that use more than 6 cores. That will also likely change when the 8 core CL chip is released. They still have a clear clockspeed and slight ipc advantage.

 

[Hitman928]

Personally, I am glad to see him go and hope intel can find someone to get them back on track. I am sure the 10nm problems were a big part of it. I don't really know how he can be blamed for spectre/meltdown though, that is an exploit of a design choice that goes back many generations.
I also would not minimize the inappropriate relationship. Having a relationship with a subordinate is a classic case of violation of the rules. Yes, I am sure many have gotten away with it, but we are in a totally different climate now. Just look at Sen. Franken. He was basically forced to resign for touching someone at a picture session in a public place. This was also not brought to light until many years after the incident.

You forgot to mention that Franken (allegedly) touched various women in private areas without consent and (allegedly) tried to forcefully kiss others. I'm not trying to nor do I want to argue over Franken and the fallout, there's another forum for that. All I'm saying is that it is a vastly different situation than this one where there was an actual relationship that was reported as consensual. There really is no parallel between the two.

 

[Gideon]

That's why I don't get all the hate for the guy. As far as making profit he's been stellar. I don't understand all the 'worst CEO ever' stuff.

I can't believe you don't see a connection there. Hector "Ruinz" also maximized AMDs profits by delaying development of 65nm and Phenom. That sure worked out great? It's easy to improve profit margins if you skimp on R&D

 

[Triloby]

I honestly believe that it's because Intel had no serious competition in the past, along with the Meltdown/Spectre debacle, the 10nm delays, and their failed push into the mobile arena that this is happening. AMD's FX and old APU's could never really compete with the likes of Intel's Pentium and Core-iX CPU's. But now it's different. Ryzen was the literal push that forced Intel to get off their asses and actually start offering some competition. But while doing so, they completely failed to mitigate their past problems while trying to come out with newer products. The fact that BK got pushed out because of an old employee affair completely ignores the fact that he made some serious missteps in his position that Intel took notice of.

An 8700K is far superior to the 2700X when it comes to pure gaming performance. That can't be denied. Hell, when Intel releases their new 8-core CPU on their ringbus architecture, the 2700X won't even come close to touching that CPU. But at the same time, the 2700X isn't that much of a slouch either (it's still far superior in terms of IPC compared to an old FX-8370, or that bloody furnace called FX-9590). Even if AMD's offerings doesn't outright beat Intel in terms of pure IPC performance or such, it doesn't really need to. It just needs to be good competition or a viable alternative in order to get Intel sweating. And I'd say that Ryzen did a pretty good job in making Intel sweat.

 

[jpiniero]

Ryzen, even now, isn't that big of a deal to Intel. It's Epyc that's the problem.

 

[Markfw]

Ryzen, even now, isn't that big of a deal to Intel. It's Epyc that's the problem.

Well, not sure about that In some games the 2700x does win, and overall its only about 10% behind. Then theres threadripper, and threadripper2 (coming soon).

But EPYC does appear to be the biggest monetary threat, as servers bring home a lot more profit, and EPYC is a real competitor, especially in price and price/perf.

 

[jpiniero]

Well, not sure about that In some games the 2700x does win, and overall its only about 10% behind. Then theres threadripper, and threadripper2 (coming soon).

I'm talking more from a financial standpoint. DIY is quite profitable for Intel but it's only a tiny part of the market. AMD admitted they only have sold 5M Ryzen in the year+ that it had been out (including Raven Ridge)... this in a market that sold 60M PCs last quarter, and that doesn't include Chromebooks, which is probably another several million.

After all, Intel also announced they are raising guidance for the quarter.

 

[formulav8]

After all, Intel also announced they are raising guidance for the quarter.

That was a PR move. Not saying it's not warranted, but it was a move to lessen the stock impact on the BK news.

 

[Mopetar]

They had to get rid of him, but the way they did it, man, that's cold.

I think it just says that the rest of the board is rather spineless and just as incapable as Krzanich of addressing the problems that Intel is facing.

Meltdown and Specter weren't really his fault as I believe they were introduced into the architecture way before his time. However, the issues surrounding 10nm are completely on him as is Intel's stagnation in terms of product lines and architectural development. They should have gone to 6 cores on the i7 long ago as well as started creating a true next generation microarchitecture instead of making continual refinements on top of what they've had for almost a decade.

That they board couldn't (or wouldn't) fire him for that tells me that they don't take those problems seriously enough. That's going to bite them in the butt harder than anything else.

 

[jpiniero]

That they board couldn't (or wouldn't) fire him for that tells me that they don't take those problems seriously enough. That's going to bite them in the butt harder than anything else.

They do. Murphy was brought in to fix the mess.

as well as started creating a true next generation microarchitecture instead of making continual refinements on top of what they've had for almost a decade.

They are... that's what Sapphire Rapids is. But without 10nm fixed...

 

[ondma]

You forgot to mention that Franken (allegedly) touched various women in private areas without consent and (allegedly) tried to forcefully kiss others. I'm not trying to nor do I want to argue over Franken and the fallout, there's another forum for that. All I'm saying is that it is a vastly different situation than this one wherfe there was an actual relationship that was reported as consensual. There really is no parallel between the two.

I have followed the Franken case closely, and am not aware of accusations that he touched "private places". But in any case that is off topic, so I won't argue with you. However, what is not off topic is that a sexual relationship between an employee and his subordinate is forbidden *whether consensual or not*.