Bribery's Legal Again

[KMFJD]

~The final SCOTUS decision today is Snyder v. US. Kavanaugh has the court's 6-3 decision on ideological grounds, holding that the Section 666 bribery statute does not apply to "gratuities" given for public officials' *past* acts. Jackson writes the liberals' dissent.

~The mayor of Portage, Indiana, steered over $1 million in city contracts to a truck dealership, which then wrote him a $13,000 check. The conservatives on SCOTUS—with extensive experience in being lavished with gifts after favorable rulings—say this is very legal and very cool.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-108_8n5a.pdf

Just make sure to bribe them after the deed is done though, strange technicality

 

[K1052]

Pairs perfectly with Trump wanting to get rid of taxes on tips. Next stop is to make bribes tax deductible.

 

[Thump553]

This has been a tread with the "conservative" branch of this Court for the last twenty years or so. I think it has less to do with their so-called conservative viewpoints than it has to do with their direct personal benefits received from billionaire patrons. In essence the Supreme Court is redefining bribery to protect themselves and it has little, if anything, to do with any valid interpretation of the Constitution.

One thing is for certain-this interpretation is 180 degrees opposite from the beliefs about bribery held by the Founding Fathers and consistently applied throughout the years until now. I personally believe that the (relative) lack of corruption in American government has led to our growth and to our current world leadership. IMO this trend of the current Supreme Court leads directly to future decline of the USA economically as well as politically.

 

[Brainonska511]

Conservatives moving to protect Thomas and the lavish gifts he's gotten as a SCOTUS justice.

 

[fskimospy]

~The final SCOTUS decision today is Snyder v. US. Kavanaugh has the court's 6-3 decision on ideological grounds, holding that the Section 666 bribery statute does not apply to "gratuities" given for public officials' *past* acts. Jackson writes the liberals' dissent.

~The mayor of Portage, Indiana, steered over $1 million in city contracts to a truck dealership, which then wrote him a $13,000 check. The conservatives on SCOTUS—with extensive experience in being lavished with gifts after favorable rulings—say this is very legal and very cool.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-108_8n5a.pdf

Just make sure to bribe them after the deed is done though, strange technicality

Sadly, bribery has been legal since at least 2015.

McDonnell v. United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Basically in order to be convicted of taking bribes now you have to be caught on camera accepting one of those cartoon bags with a dollar sign on the side while singing a song about how you're going to use your bribe money. Not sure you can be convicted even then, actually.

 

[Dave_5k]

Sadly, bribery has been legal since at least 2015.

McDonnell v. United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Basically in order to be convicted of taking bribes now you have to be caught on camera accepting one of those cartoon bags with a dollar sign on the side while singing a song about how you're going to use your bribe money. Not sure you can be convicted even then, actually.

No, no, you see previously bribery simply wasn't illegal. Now it is officially legal. Progress! /s

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Sadly, bribery has been legal since at least 2015.

McDonnell v. United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Basically in order to be convicted of taking bribes now you have to be caught on camera accepting one of those cartoon bags with a dollar sign on the side while singing a song about how you're going to use your bribe money. Not sure you can be convicted even then, actually.

Before long they're going to be reduced to the 'no reasonable person could be convinced this is an actual court' defense.

 

[Dave_5k]

Before long they're going to be reduced to the 'no reasonable person could be convinced this is an actual court' defense.

Yes, with these Supreme Court rulings, I'd expect to see almost any attempt at bringing charges for public corruption summarily dismissed with pre-trial motions. Although that won't really be even necessary, as no prosecutor or DA will even bother trying to bring such bribery charges forward any longer.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I'm so glad we can avoid conflicts of interest now

 

[brycejones]

It's funny how the party that appeals to the people concerned about corruption and the "deep state" is the one actually enabling said corruption.

So disgusted by this decision but yes it's the logical conclusion of the court's 2015 ruling.

 

[IronWing]

Buy now, pay later!

 

[balloonshark]

Maybe us voters should pool our money together and bribe politicians and judges. I bet that would cause them to reconsider their decision.

 

[pcgeek11]

Pairs perfectly with Trump wanting to get rid of taxes on tips. Next stop is to make bribes tax deductible.

Sounds a lot like Joe Biden paying off college debts with taxpayer money...

 

[ivwshane]

Sounds a lot like Joe Biden paying off college debts with taxpayer money...

What a fucking stupid comment. Will Biden be checking in on the owners of the student debt he’s excused to make sure they vote for him? No? Then how is it a bribe you fucking ignorant piece of shit?

 

[fskimospy]

What a fucking stupid comment. Will Biden be checking in on the owners of the student debt he’s excused to make sure they vote for him? No? Then how is it a bribe you fucking ignorant wise and beautiful woman?

For some reason people think enacting policies to make people's lives better in the hopes that you will vote for them is 'buying votes' or 'bribery' instead of 'the literal point of democracy'.

 

[fskimospy]

Sounds a lot like Joe Biden paying off college debts with taxpayer money...

Or Donald Trump and every other Republican president giving huge tax breaks to rich people, financed by public debt.

While I didn't support student loan forgiveness without fundamental reforms to the program if we ARE going to give taxpayer money away it's refreshing for it to at least go to regular people for once instead of the ultra rich.

 

[brycejones]

Sounds a lot like Joe Biden paying off college debts with taxpayer money...

Bless your heart

 

[manly]

Well that's a relief.. for Oakland's mayor.

 

[Brainonska511]

Sounds a lot like Joe Biden paying off college debts with taxpayer money...

Do you think your local government filling potholes near your home is some sort of bribe?

The government doing things for the benefit of citizens is like the whole fucking point of government.

 

[dank69]

Bless your black heart

ffy

 

[dank69]

Do you think your local government filling potholes near your home is some sort of bribe?

The government doing things for the benefit of citizens is like the whole fucking point of government.

Listen my guy, conservatives will never ever ever ever ever understand that.

 

[vi edit]

Sounds a lot like Joe Biden paying off college debts with taxpayer money...

It's not a bribe if it's an established program.

https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/public-service

Learn and stop spouting horse shit.

 

[vi edit]

Trump admin did everything it could to make it harder. Betsy Devos can fuck right off.

 

[pcgeek11]

What a fucking stupid comment. Will Biden be checking in on the owners of the student debt he’s excused to make sure they vote for him? No? Then how is it a bribe you fucking ignorant wise and beautiful woman?

It was a comparison between the "No Tax on Tips" being called a bribe comment and Biden paying off college debts is just as much a bribe as the tax exemption on tips is a bribe.

Will Trump be going to check on the people excused from taxes on tips verify they vote for him?

We all know that neither of these is a bribe. I would say that both are enticements for votes however.

I am all for no taxes on tips.

For some reason people think enacting policies to make people's lives better in the hopes that you will vote for them is 'buying votes' or 'bribery' instead of 'the literal point of democracy'.

See above.

Bless your heart

Back at you.

 

[MrSquished]

It was a comparison between the "No Tax on Tips" being called a bribe comment and Biden paying off college debts is just as much a bribe as the tax exemption on tips is a bribe.

Will Trump be going to check on the people excused from taxes on tips verify they vote for him?

We all know that neither of these is a bribe. I would say that both are enticements for votes however.



See above.



Back at you.

Biden actually put that policy in place, Trump, a known pathological liar, said an offhand comment at a campaign event.

To equate the two is dumbassery.