Bridal shop closes doors, spray paints dresses

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Capt Caveman

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Just what do you think the place receiving them does with them? When you donate to Goodwill or most any charity, they SELL them. Even if they went through enormous effort to specifically give them away to people who are going to use them, that still means less people looking to buy dresses and a depressed/diluted market. Got it? Jesus. Stop being so thick.

Note: Said imaginary charity would have spent resources and gained nothing from this "charitable" contribution if they actually did that.

Thick? I provide you a link on donated wedding gowns and you're thinking that people that have to go to Goodwill or a charity organization for a wedding gown are going to be able to afford one of these dresses in a bridal shop?

Different markets, nice job of comparing apples and oranges.
 

silverpig

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Jul 29, 2001
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lol needy people need wedding gowns?

Here's another:

"You would never in your life think let's spray paint a dress. Give it to somebody who need it, somebody that doesn't have the money," said Giannakakis.

No one NEEDS a wedding dress. No one.

The only way a charity would use it would be to sell it for as much as they can so they have money to fund their operations. They wouldn't give the dress to a poor person so they could have a wedding.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Thick? I provide you a link on donated wedding gowns and you're thinking that people that have to go to Goodwill or a charity organization for a wedding gown are going to be able to afford one of these dresses in a bridal shop?

Different markets, nice job of comparing apples and oranges.

I followed a different quote chain. Anyway, you completely ignored the fact that the shop donating them will get absolutely nothing back from the manufacturer and they obviously need every bit they can get if they can't afford to stay in business. They owe their creditors. Or should they saddle their creditors with $5,000 dresses that they have to find/make an outlet for at great expense and risk?

Everyone's heard about donating used wedding gowns, though they are often saved and donated for sentimentality instead ("I got married in my mother's dress!"). Less people will buy new if they could just go to the same charity and get new ones. Considering that even the desire for a dress in the first place is purely sentimental, it should not factor into any business decision. There are many more worthy causes for such a charity. People can get married in a T-shirt.
 
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alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Are you retarded or something? My post was simply in response to someone who asked why the manufacture didn't try to get the dresses back. I was just saying that it probably wasnt worth the effort or time.

Eat a dick.

No you stated the obvious answer that a $5k dress probably didn't have $5k of materials...most precious jewelry sells for much more than its 'value' due to artisan labor costs and exclusivity.

The latter two key for many brides.

It's the $300 denim argument.

'eat a dick' ??? Hell of a way to sign a post.
 

paperfist

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Nov 30, 2000
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You should see what places like Pet Smart and Barnes and Noble throw out on a weekly basis that could go to a library or animal shelter.
 

CZroe

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You should see what places like Pet Smart and Barnes and Noble throw out on a weekly basis that could go to a library or animal shelter.

I worked at PETsMART FDC20 (now PetSmart DC20) and they donated all damages to local shelters. The thing is, they prepped them as random pallets of litter and food and stated that the terms were "take it or leave it: no cherry-picking because it makes more work for us when we could have just thrown it all out" but the recipients would still come in and say "I'll take this... this... a little of this... that..." and so on.
 

alkemyst

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I worked at PETsMART FDC20 (now PetSmart DC20) and they donated all damages to local shelters. The thing is, they prepped them as random pallets of litter and food and stated that the terms were "take it or leave it: no cherry-picking because it makes more work for us when we could have just thrown it all out" but the recipients would still come in and say "I'll take this... this... a little of this... that..." and so on.

QFT and why food places don't donate as much as they can.

It's even worse when your pallets are taken and then they break them down in the parking lot and leave the discards behind or worse put them in the dumpster and get you fined.

This is the 'no good deed goes unpunished' chant in action.
 

paperfist

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I worked at PETsMART FDC20 (now PetSmart DC20) and they donated all damages to local shelters. The thing is, they prepped them as random pallets of litter and food and stated that the terms were "take it or leave it: no cherry-picking because it makes more work for us when we could have just thrown it all out" but the recipients would still come in and say "I'll take this... this... a little of this... that..." and so on.

hmm the one here locally throws out bags of cat and dog food if they are ripped or expired. The B&N throws out magazines after the new month ones come in and books that don't sell go in the dumpster. I'm not a tree hugger, but F they could at least recycle them instead of sending it to a landfill let alone educate some people.
 

3chordcharlie

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hmm the one here locally throws out bags of cat and dog food if they are ripped or expired. The B&N throws out magazines after the new month ones come in and books that don't sell go in the dumpster. I'm not a tree hugger, but F they could at least recycle them instead of sending it to a landfill let alone educate some people.

They go in the dumpster with no cover on them... because the covers get sent back as proof of destruction, so the retailer isn't charged for the item. (At least that's how it used to be).

The value of the paper itself is almost $0, and the manufacturer doesn't want it back.

Now as to whether or why the aren't recycled, that does seem pretty silly.
 
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Imp

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hmm the one here locally throws out bags of cat and dog food if they are ripped or expired. The B&N throws out magazines after the new month ones come in and books that don't sell go in the dumpster. I'm not a tree hugger, but F they could at least recycle them instead of sending it to a landfill let alone educate some people.

Not that surprising. Whenever I go to the supermarket, there's shelves full of shit that's set to expire in less than a week, but it barely goes on sale. Should do some dumpster diving, but it's open 24/7. Maybe I'll get a job there and kiss the dock workers' asses.
 

Bignate603

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IMO, if they didn't sell and went out of business, then destroyed the dresses to "keep the value up" then they weren't worth 5k to begin with.

Like many things the value is more dependent on people's perception rather than the cost to produce it.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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you are all correct in one way or another

David's Bridal has issued an apology in response to irate consumers who yesterday saw pictures of wedding dresses being vandalised and thrown away.

The bridal retailer came under fire when staff of one of its smaller chains, Priscilla of Boston, were seen spray painting gowns after a store closure in Edina, Minnesota.

Responding to outrage that the dresses were not donated, David's Bridal said: 'While it has been Priscilla of Boston’s policy not to make donations of sample dresses that are in poor condition, we recognize that some of these dresses could possibly have gone to worthy causes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ses-spray-painted-graffiti-closing-store.html

Sheila Roth whose photographs clearly captured the scene of the pointless vandalism, inquired inside the store as to the reason they hadn't been donated to the needy.

She told Fox 9 News: 'I was told that "corporate" ordered that all the remaining inventory be destroyed... [and]... that it had something to do with the contracts with the labels.'

When KARE-TV contacted the chain to query the strange decision, this statement was originally issued in response:

'Priscilla of Boston has always donated quality bridal gowns to a variety of charitable causes. We do not, however, donate unsaleable dresses that are damaged, soiled or in otherwise poor condition.'
 
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Red Squirrel

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Talk about being selfish. Would not want someone else to benefit and get something for free!

It's like people who purposely ruin their car's engine, instead of selling the car for cheap to the scrap yard for someone else to benifit from the parts that are still good.
 

0roo0roo

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Talk about being selfish. Would not want someone else to benefit and get something for free!

It's like people who purposely ruin their car's engine, instead of selling the car for cheap to the scrap yard for someone else to benifit from the parts that are still good.

as said, if you have a contract where you get something back if you destroy it ..then it is entirely different.
 

Red Squirrel

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as said, if you have a contract where you get something back if you destroy it ..then it is entirely different.

Yeah but still, it just shows how stupid of a society we live in, when it's the norm to destroy something that could go to someone else. Now wedding dresses is kinda silly, only people getting married (thus having lot of money if they can afford that) is a bad example, but this is seen with lot of stuff.

For example, before you could go to Tim Horton's and get a bag of donuts from the previous day. They were a little stale maybe but still good. Now they just throw them out. But with lawsuits and all that crap, it's better for them to waste them, then to take the chance of someone getting sick or w/e. It just boggles my mind the amount of waste we produce as humans, when it could very easily be prevented if it was not for the corporate, or political BS that makes us waste.
 

waggy

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as said, if you have a contract where you get something back if you destroy it ..then it is entirely different.

right. i don't blame the business a contract is a contract. they are in business to make money. going against the contract is not a good idea.
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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what if it was a stunt. Spray it with a paint that can be easily removed. The people you had contracts with are satisfied as there were witnesses and its all over the papers. In meantime you sell it backdoor or on ebay for way cheaper. The label is still on it which is always the main selling point
 

DCal430

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Knowing people who work and have worked at schools, if you want to talk about throwing away good items, look at your local public schools. The school lunch programs throws away a ton of food everyday. Food that is still good and edible. A dumpster worth of food a week is thrown away at most schools. They could feed a ton of homeless people with the amount of food these schools throw away, but they don't. The food is destroyed.

Complete meals are purchased, any part of the meal not eaten is destroyed. Imagine a 1000 complete meals a day are purchased, each with a fruit. If only 200 of those fruits are eaten a day, then 800 fruits are destroyed each day by the school.
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Yeah but still, it just shows how stupid of a society we live in, when it's the norm to destroy something that could go to someone else. Now wedding dresses is kinda silly, only people getting married (thus having lot of money if they can afford that) is a bad example, but this is seen with lot of stuff.

For example, before you could go to Tim Horton's and get a bag of donuts from the previous day. They were a little stale maybe but still good. Now they just throw them out. But with lawsuits and all that crap, it's better for them to waste them, then to take the chance of someone getting sick or w/e. It just boggles my mind the amount of waste we produce as humans, when it could very easily be prevented if it was not for the corporate, or political BS that makes us waste.

well it isn't stupid at all, this isn't food being destroyed. if the manufacturer will give back some money to keep from devaluing their market that is perfectly fine.
tim hortons isn't going out of business and trying to recover money for debt or whatever. day old donuts are old, wedding dresses are brand new. frankly any society that can get away with waste is successful, the really poor countries are the ones with no waste at all, their frugality picking up every last grain of rice on the street or having hoards of people rummaging through dumps isn't making them any less poor. economics don't work that way.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Knowing people who work and have worked at schools, if you want to talk about throwing away good items, look at your local public schools. The school lunch programs throws away a ton of food everyday. Food that is still good and edible. A dumpster worth of food a week is thrown away at most schools. They could feed a ton of homeless people with the amount of food these schools throw away, but they don't. The food is destroyed.

Complete meals are purchased, any part of the meal not eaten is destroyed. Imagine a 1000 complete meals a day are purchased, each with a fruit. If only 200 of those fruits are eaten a day, then 800 fruits are destroyed each day by the school.

well again, they can't. the reason why food banks don't like it when you donate food is because it is grossly inefficient. they can buy food for the homeless at 10 cents on the dollar and the rest, surplus or bulk deals and the rest, sorting and processing "waste" food from say a school or regular people would take massive time and labor.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Yeah but still, it just shows how stupid of a society we live in, when it's the norm to destroy something that could go to someone else. Now wedding dresses is kinda silly, only people getting married (thus having lot of money if they can afford that) is a bad example, but this is seen with lot of stuff.

For example, before you could go to Tim Horton's and get a bag of donuts from the previous day. They were a little stale maybe but still good. Now they just throw them out. But with lawsuits and all that crap, it's better for them to waste them, then to take the chance of someone getting sick or w/e. It just boggles my mind the amount of waste we produce as humans, when it could very easily be prevented if it was not for the corporate, or political BS that makes us waste.

it's easy to see this in reality just watching the posts that our members react too so violently.
 
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