British College Drops Burka/Veil Ban

[Zodiark1593]

Why is this troll allowed to constanctly post this shit?

Because the mods are probably eating their popcorn and laughing at the successful troll. :hmm:

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Why is this troll allowed to constanctly post this shit?

Because, as de Maistre said about the government, the people get the forum they deserve.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Because, as de Maistre said about the government, the people get the forum they deserve.

So you're saying we deserve a forum full of trolls who have only the barest grasp of the English language?

 

[actuarial]

So you're saying we deserve a forum full of trolls who have only the barest grasp of the English language?

Hard to argue that logic actually.

 

[actuarial]

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Now the burka isn't part of the religion and there is no reason to wear it...

See the thing about religions is: ANYTHING I claim to be part of my religion immediately is. If someone claims something is part of their religion, even if it is ass-backwards and stupid, it is part of their religion. This is even if it contradicts the text the religion claims to follow.

I know many Christians who believe homosexuality is perfectly consistent with their faith. Others who believe it is an abomination. You cannot define for either of those groups what is and isn't part of their faith. There is no right answer.

No matter how many times you say otherwise, religious belief is personal and what it is bound by is defined personally.

 

[SheHateMe]

This isn't Discussion Club. Don't expect much unless somebody drops a slur.

 

[Incorruptible]

See the thing about religions is: ANYTHING I claim to be part of my religion immediately is. If someone claims something is part of their religion, even if it is ass-backwards and stupid, it is part of their religion. This is even if it contradicts the text the religion claims to follow.

I know many Christians who believe homosexuality is perfectly consistent with their faith. Others who believe it is an abomination. You cannot define for either of those groups what is and isn't part of their faith. There is no right answer.

No matter how many times you say otherwise, religious belief is personal and what it is bound by is defined personally.

Anything isn't part of the religion. Nowhere in the Quran does it require the burka but it requires modesty. Many Muslims have stated this before and it's used by men to control women and women who are brainwashed. Do we allow men to go to an airport with a mask? No

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Anything isn't part of the religion. Nowhere in the Quran does it require the burka but it requires modesty. Many Muslims have stated this before and it's used by men to control women and women who are brainwashed. Do we allow men to go to an airport with a mask? No

Figures you come back to post this shit and ignore everything else.. So again I will ask

Of course again you will ignore this fact. But let's get it out in the open. Do you agree that any muslim woman is free to wear whatever covering they want and are protected as such by the First Amendment? Yes or no? If yes why are you attacking the constitution?

 

[SheHateMe]

Incorruptible must be functionally retarded.

 

[SolMiester]

You know, there is a such thing as a black muslim.


And to answer your question, no...they shouldn't be banned. Burkas/veils and whatever the hell else is not banned at my University and we have yet to have any "security threats" due to people being allowed to wear these types of clothing.


You are so damn focused on Muslims its ridiculous.

I disagree, we are talking about a society that wishes to impose its own rules and regulations on their hosts....when really, when in Rome.........

 

[BlueWolf47]

Once again, Incorruptible is able to troll and successfully convince every single person in this thread that no matter how hard he tries, he can not produce a single rational cognative thought. .

 

[SheHateMe]

I disagree, we are talking about a society that wishes to impose its own rules and regulations on their hosts....when really, when in Rome.........

Many Muslim women choose to wear cultural dress. Should we ban them from exercising their right to express themselves?

Again, just because we are talking about Muslims doesn't mean we should make special cases where someone isn't allowed to have the same constitutional right as everyone else.

 

[DrPizza]

So, Incorruptible claims that he's not anti-Muslim, only anti-extremist Muslim. His claims don't seem to match reality, unless he thinks that all Muslims are extremist Muslims.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So, Incorruptible claims that he's not anti-Muslim, only anti-extremist Muslim. His claims don't seem to match reality, unless he thinks that all Muslims are extremist Muslims.

Well. He also claims to support and defend the Constitution but that clearly isn't the case either, at least not if they Muslims. So at least he's consistent in his ability to back up what he claims.

 

[brycejones]

Incorruptible must be functionally retarded.

The good news for Incorruptible is that the SCOTUS has ruled the retarded can't be executed. So Incorruptible is safe from the death penalty if he/she/it ever commits a murder.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

The good news for Incorruptible is that the SCOTUS has ruled the retarded can't be executed. So Incorruptible is safe from the death penalty if he/she/it ever commits a murder.

He'd have to be in the United States for that to be a concern to begin with.....

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Anything isn't part of the religion. Nowhere in the Quran does it require the burka but it requires modesty. Many Muslims have stated this before and it's used by men to control women and women who are brainwashed. Do we allow men to go to an airport with a mask? No

The fact that not all Muslims have adopted the burqa doesn't mean it "is not part of the religion." It is most definitely worn in religious observance.

God is your invented persona a worthless, brainless bigot.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

So you're saying we deserve a forum full of trolls who have only the barest grasp of the English language?

That's what most people want here. And it would seem Anand does too, or he'd move the place in a different direction.

 

[bshole]

Anything isn't part of the religion. Nowhere in the Quran does it require the burka but it requires modesty. Many Muslims have stated this before and it's used by men to control women and women who are brainwashed. Do we allow men to go to an airport with a mask? No

"Tell the faithful women that they must keep their gaze focused below, on the ground and cover their sexual organs. They must not put their beauty and their jewelry on display. They must hide their breasts behind a purdah. They must not exhibit their beauty to anybody except their husbands, brothers, nephews, womenfolk, servants, eunuch employees and children. They must not move their legs briskly while walking because then much of their bodies can get exposed." (Sura Al Noor 24:31)

"Oh prophet, please tell your wives and daughters and faithful women to wear a covering dress on their bodies. That would be good. Then nobody can recognize them and harass them. Allah is merciful and kind." (Sura Al Hijaab 33: 59)

 

[Thebobo]

Honestly a lot of the folks here pilling up on incorruptible are getting just as annoying.
While in the free world some burkes are probably worn by women who choose to wear them in other countries it is a form of male dominance and women have no choice.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Honestly a lot of the folks here pilling up on incorruptible are getting just as annoying.

They can't pass up a good troll pile.

 

[Abwx]

Incorruptible must be functionally retarded.

At this point he seems not functional at all...

 

[brycejones]

He'd have to be in the United States for that to be a concern to begin with.....

True, he is in the socialist workers paradise of Canada right now isn't he?

 

[WelshBloke]

The fact that not all Muslims have adopted the burqa doesn't mean it "is not part of the religion." It is most definitely worn in religious observance...

What I don't understand is why he thinks it being religious or not matters.

If someone wants to wear a veil that's up to them, shouldn't matter if it's a religious thing or not.

 

[soulcougher73]

I actually do care which is one of the reasons why I made this thread. Islam doesn't require the burka/veil but it's a cultural issue.

So what if its a cultural issue? Many cultures have/do things that only they do.