British family tells US hotel they 'do not want to deal with black staff'

Josh

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The family, whose principal member has only been named as Rodney Morgan, were said to have asked management at the Ritz Carlton in Naples, Florida, they did not want to deal with "people of colour" or staff with "foreign accents".

Legal papers state their request was then entered into the computer system at the five star hotel before a black waiter was then stopped from serving them.

The race row came after lawyers acting for the waiter, Haitian-born Wadner Tranchant, sued the hotel.

The 40 year-old black waiter claims he was stopped serving the family during their stay in February to avoid upsetting them.

The rest of the family, who were British, were not identified.

The Morgans had a daughter with them and ate stone crabs and dover sole.

Further details about the family were not disclosed.

According to the lawsuit filed against the hotel, managers breached the Civil Rights Act by stopping Mr Tranchant serving the couple. One of his duties was to fillet the sole at the table.

Mr Tranchant, a US citizen, was so offended he has sought medical and psychological help, according to the court papers. He is claiming compensation.

"On or about February 28, 2010, the Rodney Morgan family arrives as guests of (the) Ritz and specified… their preference to not be served by 'people of colour' or with 'foreign accents'," said the claim lodged at the Florida District Court.

"This preference was entered into the computer system of (the) Ritz at the direction of the (the hotel's managing director Edward Staros) with the further notation '… as per Mr Staros this couple is very very prejudice [sic] and do like like [sic] ppl of colour or foreign accents'."

Michael McDonnell, the waiter's lawyer, said that nine other staff members at the hotel have said they were told the British family did not want to be served by blacks or anyone with an accent.

His lawyers have cited the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which was passed a year after blacks were freed from slavery following the end of the American civil war, which makes it illegal to discriminate in jobs and housing on the basis of race.

A spokesman for the Ritz-Carlton refused to comment.

The case is due in court at a later date.




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...hey-do-not-want-to-deal-with-black-staff.html
 

Lonyo

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Surely everyone has a foreign accent?
They were in the US, and were British. As a Brit, I'd consider an American accent to be foreign.

(Also they were stupid, but can you really sue for this? If customers state they don't want specific people serving them, then is it discrimination by the business? Would it have been better if they had sent him to serve them, and then they say "can we have another waiter please?")
 

nageov3t

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racist family + cash hungry waiter.

mental distress for not serving 1 table? if someone told me to take a break and not to my job for an hour, I'd be thrilled.
 

brblx

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something shitty happening does not automatically equate to monetary compensation.

they should give him $50 to compensate for possible lost tips (though apparently he wouldn't have received one, anyway) and tell him to fuck off.

they should sue the KKK, because the civil rights act says that everyone has to like black people. oh wait, no it doesn't.
 

Josh

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racist family + cash hungry waiter.

mental distress for not serving 1 table? if someone told me to take a break and not to my job for an hour, I'd be thrilled.

'cept he was a waiter...so he's working for that tip otherwise he's probably getting paid jack shiiit
 

bignateyk

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I don't really see how he can claim it is job discrimination. It's not like he was fired or not hired based on race. He is still employed. I'm sure he was just asked to wait a different table. Also, @ medical and psychological help. What a load of BS.

That said, the hotel manager is stupid for granting this racist family their request. That had to know something bad would come of it.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Mr Tranchant, a US citizen, was so offended he has sought medical and psychological help, according to the court papers. He is claiming compensation.

That's awesome

So why didn't this guy sue the Brits? The hotel did him a favor by keeping him away from them. If they had insisted that he wait on the dipshits then he could have sued for the hotel for forcing him to deal with racists. At that point he could have sued for being offended.

Frankly this guy should be laughed out of court.
 

SlitheryDee

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Those people sound like assholes. What was the hotel supposed to do though? Just ignore the request? Kick the family out? Now the hotel is the one getting sued... Kinda sucks for them.

And there's no way that dude was so distressed that he needed medical help. When you see a little addition like that you wonder if the guy wasn't just waiting for an opportunity like this to squeeze some dough out of someone.
 

Skitzer

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"His lawyers have cited the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which was passed a year after blacks were freed from slavery following the end of the American civil war, which makes it illegal to discriminate in jobs and housing on the basis of race"

Really ...... what does this have to do with "not being allowed to wait" on bigots?
 

nageov3t

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er...no?

maybe you mean 'at most hotel restaurants' or something.
obviously I'm not an expert, but one of my friends spent a couple years bumming around restaurants and it seemed like they pooled tips in just about every one she worked at (and gave a percentage to the busboys)
 

yh125d

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obviously I'm not an expert, but one of my friends spent a couple years bumming around restaurants and it seemed like they pooled tips in just about every one she worked at (and gave a percentage to the busboys)

It's a common practice but not industry standard
 

Deeko

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Mr Tranchant, a US citizen, was so offended he has sought medical and psychological help

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Yea, its messed up of them, but really? Medical and psychological help?
 

OogyWaWa

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i dont see what the problem is. they dont like blacks or "foreigners", why cant they ask to not be served by them? i mean, if i dont want ketchup on my burger is the heins lady going to hunt me down? for the hotel, whats wrong with them telling the waiter not to serve them? how is this different than saying 'i dont want you to server the outside guests.' ?? wtf?

personally, if i were the hotel manager, i would tell their racist asses to do business elsewhere, but i still don't see how anyone is legally in the wrong...
 

nakedfrog

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Could be hoping to settle out of court, banking on the hotel not wanting bad publicity.
 

Fritzo

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at the Ritz Carlton in Naples, Florida, they did not want to deal with "people of colour" or staff with "foreign accents".

Wait...they're British people in Florida! EVERYONE is going to have an accent to them! If I were their waiter I would have done my best Austin Powers impression for them.

"Try the fish- it's totally your bag baby. YEAH BABY YEAH!"
 

xanis

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Racist family? Check.

Someone trying to get free money? Check.

Yep, this is going to be a clusterfuck.
 

IceBergSLiM

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funny that wars were started for elite families to have the right to have black people serve them. We have come full circle.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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Yeah I guess you can say the waiter is an opportunist. But I mean British people have plenty of people of "colour" in England considering it used to be said "The sun never sets on the British empire".

This guy (the British guy) needs to stop being an a-hole. And the waiter needs to stop taking advantage of something so stupid.
 

keird

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The 40 year-old black waiter claims he was stopped serving the family during their stay in February to avoid upsetting them.

According to the lawsuit filed against the hotel, managers breached the Civil Rights Act by stopping Mr Tranchant serving the couple. One of his duties was to fillet the sole at the table.

Otherwise the black gentleman would have approached them with a knife.
 
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