British troops "liberating" Iraqi children

[5150Joker]

British troops showing the benefits of freedom to Iraqi children, such a heart warming video: Text

 

[Jaskalas]

What this does not show is what that mob was doing before they broke it up and captured a few of the kids in it. We have no way of knowing.

You can say whatever you like about how these soldiers should respond to specific conditions, but from this video alone you have too much politicking and not enough facts.

 

[tommywishbone]

The voice-over is creepy. That guy will most likely become a Catholic priest. Creepy.

 

[homercles337]

"Too much politicking?" WTF? If this happened where you live (profile deactivated, nice troll) and the camera guy and british troops were cops, what would you do? Would you claim it was a political stunt? :roll:

 

[gimpsoft]

that's F up

why don't they send them plastic shields to there troops like police have here if they have problem kids throwing rocks sure not solve the problem but will help protecting them /// or just shoot tear gas/// and what's more F up the guy filming it encouraging to beat the crap out of them and the other just turning a blind eye .
sad really but then again they must be frusted being there hopefully they find the WMD any day soon ( right BUSH & cheney ?)

im sure they going to get them good this time in europe just watching that makes me pissed off i need to hurt some one now :| im not even in there struggle against the infidels hehehehe


hopefully we can get rid of BUSH & cheney and most of there admin this or next year i don't care what party replaces them aslong they have a plan and don't preach religist propaganda in other to get support it just pissed me off christianity can go where the sun don't shine just do the right thing.

 

[techs]

We are in Iraq to liberate the people from an evil dictator and to bring democracy.
I guess the troops and the kids didn't get the memo.
We are really winning "hearts and minds" over there, aren't we?

 

[MiniDoom]

repost, and who cares. throw rocks at me and I'd kick your ass to.

 

[Jaskalas]

Soldiers are not trained to be police. They are trained to kill. Should the mob have had weapons among them, the Brits should have opened fire. But they are playing politics by not giving the Iraqis dead bodies to show in front of cameras.

What that video shows me is a mob being dealt with in rather kind terms as opposed to how I'd handle a mob of hostiles. Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it. I don't care if the Iraqis use their children as human shields.

Should it somehow be proven the mob only taunted the soldiers, and in fact did not have weapons. Then I'll agree that beating the slow ones into submission was not needed and the Brits should rethink their soldier?s training.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Soldiers are not trained to be police. They are trained to kill. Should the mob have had weapons among them, the Brits should have opened fire. But they are playing politics by not giving the Iraqis dead bodies to show in front of cameras.

What that video shows me is a mob being dealt with in rather kind terms as opposed to how I'd handle a mob of hostiles. Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it. I don't care if the Iraqis use their children as human shields.

Should it somehow be proven the mob only taunted the soldiers, and in fact did not have weapons. Then I'll agree that beating the slow ones into submission was not needed and the Brits should rethink their soldier?s training.

Go away you uncompassionate troll. :|

 

[1EZduzit]

These "children" have discovered that everybody has there breaking point. Was it right? No, of course not, but how do you expect us to control soilders who are in harm"s way? I can't do it any more then you can stop Muslims from rioting over cartoons.

 

[techs]

The solution is simple.
Get the targets out of the way.
Split Iraq into Kurd, Sunni and Shia countries.
Bring the troops home.
Its as simple as that.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: techs
The solution is simple.
Get the targets out of the way.
Split Iraq into Kurd, Sunni and Shia countries.
Bring the troops home.
Its as simple as that.

Except that the kurds would want some of turkey, and they would all squabble over the land anyway and war would be rampant.

There is no right answer.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: techs
The solution is simple.
Get the targets out of the way.
Split Iraq into Kurd, Sunni and Shia countries.
Bring the troops home.
Its as simple as that.

Except that the kurds would want some of turkey, and they would all squabble over the land anyway and war would be rampant.

There is no right answer.

Just like it was before, only better.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Soldiers are not trained to be police. They are trained to kill. Should the mob have had weapons among them, the Brits should have opened fire. But they are playing politics by not giving the Iraqis dead bodies to show in front of cameras.

What that video shows me is a mob being dealt with in rather kind terms as opposed to how I'd handle a mob of hostiles. Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it. I don't care if the Iraqis use their children as human shields.

Should it somehow be proven the mob only taunted the soldiers, and in fact did not have weapons. Then I'll agree that beating the slow ones into submission was not needed and the Brits should rethink their soldier?s training.

Go away you uncompassionate troll. :|

What you miss is the fact that he is absolutely right.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Soldiers are not trained to be police. They are trained to kill. Should the mob have had weapons among them, the Brits should have opened fire. But they are playing politics by not giving the Iraqis dead bodies to show in front of cameras.

What that video shows me is a mob being dealt with in rather kind terms as opposed to how I'd handle a mob of hostiles. Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it. I don't care if the Iraqis use their children as human shields.

Should it somehow be proven the mob only taunted the soldiers, and in fact did not have weapons. Then I'll agree that beating the slow ones into submission was not needed and the Brits should rethink their soldier?s training.

Go away you uncompassionate troll. :|

What you miss is the fact that he is absolutely right.

Ya except the soldiers will be prosecuted, so both of you are wrong. I made the first post about this and someone said they are already in the stockades, so there.

 

[Genx87]

That was excessive even if rocks were thrown. I can understand doing that in the middle of the riot where you have to use force to put an end to the riot but bringing them into an alley like that and then proceeding to whip their ass is uncalled for.

The reality is as somebody else pointed out that these guys are not trained to deal with this crap. The local police should be out there cracking down on this.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: Genx87
That was excessive even if rocks were thrown. I can understand doing that in the middle of the riot where you have to use force to put an end to the riot but bringing them into an alley like that and then proceeding to whip their ass is uncalled for.

The reality is as somebody else pointed out that these guys are not trained to deal with this crap. The local police should be out there cracking down on this.

lol, you honestly think the local iraqi police have any power over the british troops?

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
British troops showing the benefits of freedom to Iraqi children, such a heart warming video: Text

They are not LIBERATING Children, they are (probably) abusing their position ... this country wouldn't call it liberating and neither would Britain. Grow up.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: Genx87
That was excessive even if rocks were thrown. I can understand doing that in the middle of the riot where you have to use force to put an end to the riot but bringing them into an alley like that and then proceeding to whip their ass is uncalled for.

The reality is as somebody else pointed out that these guys are not trained to deal with this crap. The local police should be out there cracking down on this.

lol, you honestly think the local iraqi police have any power over the british troops?

Huh? I mean the local police should be cracking down on the riots.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: Genx87
That was excessive even if rocks were thrown. I can understand doing that in the middle of the riot where you have to use force to put an end to the riot but bringing them into an alley like that and then proceeding to whip their ass is uncalled for.

The reality is as somebody else pointed out that these guys are not trained to deal with this crap. The local police should be out there cracking down on this.

lol, you honestly think the local iraqi police have any power over the british troops?

Huh? I mean the local police should be cracking down on the riots.

There are no Iraqi police, remember?

Soldiers kill...that is what they are paid to do. Anything different and you ask for disaster.

 

[jimkyser]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it.

Really. Our military has domain over all other countries and their citizens just better accept what ever we decide to do? Do you believe the same is true for other country's armies in the US? So, if a demonstrator threw rocks at an East German soldier near the East German embassy in Washington, DC prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall, they could have just killed the demonstrator and it would all be OK?

You are seriously delusional about what 'rights' our military has on foreign soil vs. the rights of the local populace.

 

[fornax]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Soldiers are not trained to be police. They are trained to kill. Should the mob have had weapons among them, the Brits should have opened fire. But they are playing politics by not giving the Iraqis dead bodies to show in front of cameras.

What that video shows me is a mob being dealt with in rather kind terms as opposed to how I'd handle a mob of hostiles. Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it. I don't care if the Iraqis use their children as human shields.

Should it somehow be proven the mob only taunted the soldiers, and in fact did not have weapons. Then I'll agree that beating the slow ones into submission was not needed and the Brits should rethink their soldier?s training.

You are one sick individual.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: techs
The solution is simple.
Get the targets out of the way.
Split Iraq into Kurd, Sunni and Shia countries.
Bring the troops home.
Its as simple as that.

Except that the kurds would want some of turkey, and they would all squabble over the land anyway and war would be rampant.

There is no right answer.

The Kurds can want whatever they want. Turkey is an 800 pound gorilla compared to the Kurds. And the Kurds would agree to nearly anything to get their own country and not be part of the chaos that is the rest of Iraq.

My point is why try and get three groups with long standing hatreds to be part of a country relatively recently formed?
Let them have their own countries and deal with their own problems.
Without each other to fight they may actually work to improve their countries.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: techs
The solution is simple.
Get the targets out of the way.
Split Iraq into Kurd, Sunni and Shia countries.
Bring the troops home.
Its as simple as that.

Except that the kurds would want some of turkey, and they would all squabble over the land anyway and war would be rampant.

There is no right answer.

The Kurds can want whatever they want. Turkey is an 800 pound gorilla compared to the Kurds. And the Kurds would agree to nearly anything to get their own country and not be part of the chaos that is the rest of Iraq.

My point is why try and get three groups with long standing hatreds to be part of a country relatively recently formed?
Let them have their own countries and deal with their own problems.
Without each other to fight they may actually work to improve their countries.

I used to think that's what they should do too, but how long would 3 little new countries last next to Turkey and Iran?

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Soldiers are not trained to be police. They are trained to kill. Should the mob have had weapons among them, the Brits should have opened fire. But they are playing politics by not giving the Iraqis dead bodies to show in front of cameras.

What that video shows me is a mob being dealt with in rather kind terms as opposed to how I'd handle a mob of hostiles. Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it. I don't care if the Iraqis use their children as human shields.

Should it somehow be proven the mob only taunted the soldiers, and in fact did not have weapons. Then I'll agree that beating the slow ones into submission was not needed and the Brits should rethink their soldier?s training.

Go away you uncompassionate troll. :|

What you miss is the fact that he is absolutely right.

So a soldier is not also human? Geez, i didnt know the military turned them into KILLING MACHINES with no human compassion at all. My bad...