British troops "liberating" Iraqi children

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homercles337

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Huh? I mean the local police should be cracking down on the riots.

Can you turn off Faux News, Rush, Coulter, etc for more than TWO seconds?! There is no local police. :laugh: @ you.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it.

Really. Our military has domain over all other countries and their citizens just better accept what ever we decide to do? Do you believe the same is true for other country's armies in the US? So, if a demonstrator threw rocks at an East German soldier near the East German embassy in Washington, DC prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall, they could have just killed the demonstrator and it would all be OK?

You are seriously delusional about what 'rights' our military has on foreign soil vs. the rights of the local populace.

Well, nothing would have happened to said soldier except being sent home, if that's what you mean.

But this guy is quite the imperialist pig if he really holds the opinion he stated here.
 

jimkyser

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: jimkyser
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Let me make myself clear, no one in another country has the right to oppose our army and live to tell about it.

Really. Our military has domain over all other countries and their citizens just better accept what ever we decide to do? Do you believe the same is true for other country's armies in the US? So, if a demonstrator threw rocks at an East German soldier near the East German embassy in Washington, DC prior to the fall of the Berlin Wall, they could have just killed the demonstrator and it would all be OK?

You are seriously delusional about what 'rights' our military has on foreign soil vs. the rights of the local populace.

Well, nothing would have happened to said soldier except being sent home, if that's what you mean.

But this guy is quite the imperialist pig if he really holds the opinion he stated here.
I didn't ask what would/could/should happen to the soldier, I asked if Mr. 'All Hail the American Military' if he would be OK with it since it seems opposing our military earns one a death sentence in his mind. I fully agree with you're assessment, though.
 

raildogg

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This is really disgusting. I hope these soldiers here are to face some punishment for what they are doing. I am all for military safety. I want the well being of soldiers but this is just shameful.

The people involved in the abu ghraib abuse need to be punished. I don't think justice was served. That brought shame to our country.

What these soldiers are doing is terrorism. I know that crowds can get out of hand and the situation can change dramatically, but there is no justification of this. Our enemies will use this against us. This is morally wrong.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
The voice-over is creepy. That guy will most likely become a Catholic priest. Creepy.

Oh yeah, all Catholics are murderous perverts.

Go you.
 

imported_Hitman

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I saw the original video and those "kids" were really given it to the Brits! Should the Brits have beaten the "Kids?" In a perfect world, or at home? No, but in a WAR ZONE with soldiers under pressure, those kids had to be put down and fast. That could have easily been a distraction for an enemy action! I give the nod to the Brits...
 

imported_Hitman

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Newsflash: That was the kids home.The invaders made it the warzone, not the kids.

Good point (maybe for a topic on should we be there), but be that as it may... It still had to be put down quickly and could've easily been a distraction for an enemy action! It may have been in all actuality and things just didn't work out as planned. Poor enemy! We're so quick to jump on things with civilized heads. These guys "Have" to think like soldiers 24/7, or they're Dead. Think about that one! They didn't ASK to be there, understand they're only trying to: Number 1 - Stay Alive, Number 2 - Kill the enemy, Number 3 - Go Home, Alive...NOT in a box...

When we see the video and the news headlines, we don't get the soldiers side of the story. We only get what Sells the Story! News, eh, it's just a business. Ugh!
 

Steeplerot

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The soldiers side is obvious as they cheer children being beaten in a country they have no reason to be in.

And why do their parents randomly lob mortars into their bases and the muslim world in outrage..hmmm

Regardless, it is not the soldiers fault in the regard that war makes sick twisted individuals as shown in this video out of normal people, I blame the ones above them who put them into such a situation.

People who stand up for such insanity really need to get a grip, this person who was cheering is going to have to deal with how he reacted the rest of his life, this is why so many soldiers come home and wind up in a noose or a gun to their mouth, I am glad I am not in such a situation.

What's worse is it is recorded for him to see for years after.
 

envy me

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And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

You forgot to mention "Praise Allah".
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
The post in question eliminated any kind of "innocence" defense you may have had. I, for one, am not inclined to wait until you actually perform a terrorist acts. Those who support terrorists, either with money, or even with sentiment, are just as guilty.

Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.
 
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Originally posted by: Meuge
Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

Why does this quickness to resort to barbarism NOT surprise me coming from such an ardent Israeli supporter?
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
The post in question eliminated any kind of "innocence" defense you may have had. I, for one, am not inclined to wait until you actually perform a terrorist acts. Those who support terrorists, either with money, or even with sentiment, are just as guilty.

Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

So basically what you are saying, is a suicide bomber is a terrorist?

I have to disagree with you.

During World War 2, all of the Japanese Kamikaze pilots (which also died for what they beleived was a good cause) were they terrorists?

So what is a terrorist? Someone who kills jews and americans?

I don't support terrorists. I support in people fighting for their beleifs/human rights by ANY means neccessary.

Not everyone has the luxury of hiding behind armored vehicles and tanks.

And Also the soldiers in question were beating children, headbutting them with armor helmets. Not protesting. Such bravery these soldiers show. They are really making their country proud.



 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
The post in question eliminated any kind of "innocence" defense you may have had. I, for one, am not inclined to wait until you actually perform a terrorist acts. Those who support terrorists, either with money, or even with sentiment, are just as guilty.

Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

So basically what you are saying, is a suicide bomber is a terrorist?

I have to disagree with you.

During World War 2, all of the Japanese Kamikaze pilots (which also died for what they beleived was a good cause) were they terrorists?

So what is a terrorist? Someone who kills jews and americans?

You're sounding like Ward Churchill, the great American hero.

Those Japanese kamikazes targeted American and other military personnel, not civilians. Sorry to have to correct you.

The muslim kamikazes target civilians and want to inflict the greatest damage to them as possible.

A terrorist is a person who kills innocent civilians. Since Jews are not humans, they don't count, so lets just forget about them.

Oh death to the Little Satan and its big brother!
 

jimkyser

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
The post in question eliminated any kind of "innocence" defense you may have had. I, for one, am not inclined to wait until you actually perform a terrorist acts. Those who support terrorists, either with money, or even with sentiment, are just as guilty.

Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

Really, it would have been OK to machinegun these people just for demonstrating with an opinion/message that you don't agree with? You probably think Baruch Goldstein should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize posthumously then, too.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
The post in question eliminated any kind of "innocence" defense you may have had. I, for one, am not inclined to wait until you actually perform a terrorist acts. Those who support terrorists, either with money, or even with sentiment, are just as guilty.

Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

So basically what you are saying, is a suicide bomber is a terrorist?

I have to disagree with you.

During World War 2, all of the Japanese Kamikaze pilots (which also died for what they beleived was a good cause) were they terrorists?

So what is a terrorist? Someone who kills jews and americans?

You're sounding like Ward Churchill, the great American hero.

Those Japanese kamikazes targeted American and other military personnel, not civilians. Sorry to have to correct you.

The muslim kamikazes target civilians and want to inflict the greatest damage to them as possible.
A terrorist is a person who kills innocent civilians. Since Jews are not humans according to apologists and muslims, they don't count, so lets just forget about them.

Oh death to the Little Satan and its big brother!


Are American soldiers innocent civilians? Not all suicide bombers have targeted civilians. The ones that do I would agree are terrorists, but what about the ones that drive through checkpoints and blow up their cars in an attempt to rid their country of a foreign occupation?


Are they terrorists too?
or are they freedom fighters?

 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: jimkyser
Really, it would have been OK to machinegun these people just for demonstrating with an opinion/message that you don't agree with?
There is a difference between having an opinion, or inciting/supporting violence against innocent civilians.

Yes I think they deserve to die. And so do the people who celebrated the 9/11 attacks... and so on and so forth.

And if there are people out there celebrating the deaths of the innocent palestinians who were killed in Israeli attacks on the militants, they should die too.

I am not so tolerant that I tolerate intolerance.
 

Aimster

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I didn't read this entire thread. Only bits and pieces but from what I read I want to comment:

Iraqi suicide bombers are targeting their own people.
It is a situation like this: Arabs vs Arabs or Sunni vs Shia.

However, if the Japanese had their chance they probably would have killed innocent civilians.

Anyways, Iraqi suicide bombers are animals who like to blow up shopping centers and malls.

Do not defend them. Not even the Iraqis support them.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me

And then people ask, why are there suicide bombers? Why are there car bombs? Video is disgusting. Even if the were throwing rocks, automatic rifles + combat gear > rocks + civilian clothing.

Everytime I see a video like this, and ignorant people trying to justify it, it makes me sick.

I sincerely hope these illegal occupiers end up on the receiving end of a suicide bomber. Ignorant pigs.

Come over to my house. I'll show you the receiving end of a 30-06.

No you won't.

I take it a 30-06 is some sort of firearm. It takes a certain mentality to shoot an innocent/unarmed person and frankly, I don't think you got what it takes.
The post in question eliminated any kind of "innocence" defense you may have had. I, for one, am not inclined to wait until you actually perform a terrorist acts. Those who support terrorists, either with money, or even with sentiment, are just as guilty.

Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

So basically what you are saying, is a suicide bomber is a terrorist?

I have to disagree with you.

During World War 2, all of the Japanese Kamikaze pilots (which also died for what they beleived was a good cause) were they terrorists?

So what is a terrorist? Someone who kills jews and americans?

You're sounding like Ward Churchill, the great American hero.

Those Japanese kamikazes targeted American and other military personnel, not civilians. Sorry to have to correct you.

The muslim kamikazes target civilians and want to inflict the greatest damage to them as possible.
A terrorist is a person who kills innocent civilians. Since Jews are not humans according to apologists and muslims, they don't count, so lets just forget about them.

Oh death to the Little Satan and its big brother!


Are American soldiers innocent civilians? Not all suicide bombers have targeted civilians. The ones that do I would agree are terrorists, but what about the ones that drive through checkpoints and blow up their cars in an attempt to rid their country of a foreign occupation?


Are they terrorists too?
or are they freedom fighters?

When the muslim holy warriors target American infidels in Iraq, they also kill civilians because they are close by. Yes, the muslim holy warriors in Iraq are holy men who would never hurt a fly, but the civilians are so close by they have no choice. They have to kill the American infidels, those evil Satans.

But then some of the muslim holy warriors target those dirty rotten Shiites, the colaborators.

So I guess that much of the muslim holy warriors, aka suicide bombers, do target civilians. Not that their lives are worthy of that of the holy warriors, but still.
 
Jan 14, 2006
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Do not defend them. Not even the Iraqis support them.

Indeed. I personally have no problem with the tactic only the targets.
Once they started targeting civilians they lost any sympathy they might have received from those who also oppose the invasion.

 

envy me

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Originally posted by: dimensionOFdissension
Originally posted by: Aimster
Do not defend them. Not even the Iraqis support them.

Indeed. I personally have no problem with the tactic only the targets.Once they started targeting civilians they lost any sympathy they might have received from those who also oppose the invasion.

Exactly my sentiment.

 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: dimensionOFdissension
Originally posted by: Meuge
Frankly, when I saw the "Death to those who insult Islam", and "Europe will pay" posters all over the European protester crowds, I would not have minded if the Europeans grew some and machinegunned the demonstrations.

Why does this quickness to resort to barbarism NOT surprise me coming from such an ardent Israeli supporter?

Because you're a fool
 
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