Broadwell-E 10 Core Costs $1723

[2blzd]

Well it makes more sense now.

This product is in the way:
http://ark.intel.com/products/92979/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2667-v4-25M-Cache-3_20-GHz

And this in the other end:
http://ark.intel.com/products/91750/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2687W-v4-30M-Cache-3_00-GHz

Yes, you are buying a server product. And it cant be priced much cheaper due to conflict in the server segment. The same would apply for AMD.

Can you explain what you mean by this?



Also, is there precedent for sales or deals on brand new hardware? Im curious fi the 6800k will sell for below MSRP like the 5820k frequently did.



Lastly, I'll admit it, I was on of the people who didn't believe the 10core would be $1500. I was wrong and my foot is in my mouth. Although I'm not surprised, Intel is greedy AF, I'm still disappointed.


6800K + 1070 or Polaris here we come~

 

[ShintaiDK]

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Xeon prices dictates its price.

 

[Circuit1]

If only had a business that could profit off of all those cores! I'm just sitting here watching youtube haha.

 

[Nothingness]

Xeon prices dictates its price.

Dual socket Xeon prices?

What about this Xeon? http://ark.intel.com/products/92984/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2640-v4-25M-Cache-2_40-GHz
I wonder what turbo it can reach. Most likely less than this outrageously priced 6950x, but you can almost get two of them for the price of a 6950x

 

[Arachnotronic]

Dual socket Xeon prices?

What about this Xeon? http://ark.intel.com/products/92984/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2640-v4-25M-Cache-2_40-GHz
I wonder what turbo it can reach. Most likely less than this outrageously priced 6950x, but you can almost get two of them for the price of a 6950x

6950X is multiplier unlocked. One fuse less blown and the value prop for enthusiasts goes way up. Amazing business.

 

[Nothingness]

6950X is multiplier unlocked. One fuse less blown and the value prop for enthusiasts goes way up. Amazing business.

Yeah that makes sense for people doing OC. But for pros needing WS or people like me who value stability over all that's a no brainer, pick the 2S enabled Xeon

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yeah that makes sense for people doing OC. But for pros needing WS or people like me who value stability over all that's a no brainer, pick the 2S enabled Xeon

Agreed.

 

[DooKey]

After seeing this thread it makes me realize my Skylake-E build is going to be my most expensive build ever.

 

[24601]

After seeing this thread it makes me realize my Skylake-E build is going to be my most expensive build ever.

If they go 12 core with Skylake-E HEDT and Zen is a non-factor, it will probably be 4k or so for the 12 core option for the "privilege" of overclocking.

 

[Phynaz]

If the USGov was even halfway competent (lol?) they would nationalize all the US tech companies, as they all suck on the teat of government funding for 90%+ of their employees and research anyways.

90% subsidized tech that ends up with all revenues offshore in ireland, panama, caymans (as well as on-shore in tax-free states) is simply a guaranteed recipe for the US's collapse in the mid-term.

Wanna know why the US is the last to get full shipments for chips like the 6600k and 6700k?

It's because it's harder to evade taxes on the chips sold directly in the US than it is when it's sold overseas.

This isn't P&N. Keep this crap there please.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I remember certain posters laughing at me when I told them there was absolutely no chance Intel would price the 10-core model at $999. However, I admit I was wrong too - I was predicting a $1250 or $1300 price tag, not $1723. :|

Finally, you are being educated on what "monopoly" means for customers.

Weren't you the one that said that Intel wouldn't raise prices, under a monopoly condition?

LOL. Welcome to the real world. Maybe that socialist education failed you.

Well, yes, as a matter-of-fact, he was one telling me I was wrong and it would be $999. Too bad I wasn't wrong - this means I should probably go ahead and grab a cheap 6700K or 5930K.

Thinking I am awaiting Zen to see where that lands and if 8C+ chips get a little cheaper...

True, but these prices are so ridiculous it makes me wonder if Intel knows something we don't. Or, perhaps they're just trying to gouge while they can.

 

[jhu]

Expensive 10 cores new tech is one thing, but for me it's tempting to go moar cores with older tech as prices fall..

AsRock X99 Extreme4 @ $139.99 (after rebate)..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...16-Index-_-IntelMotherboards-_-13157543-S1A3A

12 core XEON E5-2658 V3 @ $160

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191844466193?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Well worth the $300 :thumbsup:

Those are ES chips.

 

[jhu]

After seeing this thread it makes me realize my Skylake-E build is going to be my most expensive build ever.

Just wait 4 years when they come down to <$100

 

[master_shake_]

1723??

they will sell there is no doubt about that.

but again i will abstain from the hedt platform from intel.

 

[YBS1]

True, but these prices are so ridiculous it makes me wonder if Intel knows something we don't. Or, perhaps they're just trying to gouge while they can.

My guess, and just a wild guess is.....There are quite a few people that purchased a 5960X, at least I can't ever recall seeing a greater number of people opting to go with the "Extreme Edition" or top of their consumer line ~$1000 CPU. I wonder if they didn't take the above average sales as a prompt to see if they could push that "luxury" up in price and see if people would still bite? Thing is though, this was the first time the "EE" chip made sense to me (and probably to a lot of the other purchasers), you actually got something very tangible in return for the price hike above the other chips. In the past the big chip may have been simply clocked higher or had more cache. Now the 980X did indeed have more cores than the lower priced chips but that was back when virtually nothing would take advantage of the additional cores, in fact many programs/games hadn't even started taking advantage of quad cores yet.

I'm of the opinion that most people are going to balk at this drastic price increase, we've all kind of gotten used to the top end being roughly $1000, the addition of two cores to the line with the 5960X didn't cause a large price bump and the six cores fell in price, I don't see why similar didn't happen here. Maybe if the sales of this fall sharply from what they saw with the 5960X we might see the SL-E top chip pricing return to near traditional levels. I don't plan to buy one, I would have at 5960X prices, but quite frankly I don't even have a real "need" for eight cores, it's just a "want". Now, if it turns out these are miraculous wonder chips that average 5GHz OC's, I take that back....I'll probably get one.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

My guess, and just a wild guess is.....There are quite a few people that purchased a 5960X, at least I can't ever recall seeing a greater number of people opting to go with the "Extreme Edition" or top of their consumer line ~$1000 CPU. I wonder if they didn't take the above average sales as a prompt to see if they could push that "luxury" up in price and see if people would still bite? Thing is though, this was the first time the "EE" chip made sense to me (and probably to a lot of the other purchasers), you actually got something very tangible in return for the price hike above the other chips. In the past the big chip may have been simply clocked higher or had more cache. Now the 980X did indeed have more cores than the lower priced chips but that was back when virtually nothing would take advantage of the additional cores, in fact many programs/games hadn't even started taking advantage of quad cores yet.

I'm of the opinion that most people are going to balk at this drastic price increase, we've all kind of gotten used to the top end being roughly $1000, the addition of two cores to the line with the 5960X didn't cause a large price bump and the six cores fell in price, I don't see why similar didn't happen here. Maybe if the sales of this fall sharply from what they saw with the 5960X we might see the SL-E top chip pricing return to near traditional levels. I don't plan to buy one, I would have at 5960X prices, but quite frankly I don't even have a real "need" for eight cores, it's just a "want". Now, if it turns out these are miraculous wonder chips that average 5GHz OC's, I take that back....I'll probably get one.

Well, I knew there was absolutely, positively no way Intel was going to price the 6950 at $999, despite certain posters here telling me I was wrong. These guys weren't thinking clearly - it was very obvious that Intel had zero reason to price it that low. They have no real competition at that performance level and plus, buyers of the HEDT plaforms tend to spend more on components so Intel is wise to try to make more money in this segment. I definitely would've bought the 8-core model in the $600-$800 range and maybe the 6950 at $999. $1700 though?!?!? I could build a very fast 6700k-based system far less than that which, quite honestly, would smoke any of these models at most of the tasks I run for the next year or two.

I really didn't see $1700 coming - I really thought it would be $1200-$1300 and maybe $1400 if Intel really wanted to push it. Then I heard the $1500 rumors and said "OK, Intel is really pushing it and I'm bowing out, but maybe it will sell." $1700 though? There is no way - zero, zilch, nada - I'd pay $1700 for a BW-E. I can certainly afford it, but I won't do it because I could never justify it and I don't think most enthusiasts will either.

 

[guskline]

My 5960x is looking better and better every day!:thumbsup:

 

[bigboxes]

Back in my day, we paid $5k for our 4.77 MHz x86 machines. And color was extra. And we liked it!

I see what you did there. :sneaky: and I liked it!

 

[HiroThreading]

Xeon prices dictates its price.

I disagree.

That's like saying Quadros or FirePros dictate the prices of GeForces and Radeons -- they don't, there's a clear disconnect. The extra cost of professional grade or server grade hardware is due to validation, reliability and warranty. Sometimes, there are additional feature sets (e.g. ECC support, drivers, larger supported RAM capabilities) that come with the higher price.

Furthermore, users requiring server grade hardware would almost always stick with the Xeon lineup, not matter how cheap a consumer 10 core Core i7 would be. Quadro users would never buy a 980 Ti (or even a Titan X for that matter), and FirePro users would always purchase a W9100 over a Radeon 390X.

The key question here in regards to Intel's pricing strategy is how elastic consumer demand is for these chips. Have they turned away a large number of potential customers with this price, who otherwise would have bought the 6950X at $999, and the associated revenue from those sales relative to the revenue gained by pricing it at over $1700? We shall see, but my gut feeling is yes.

 

[jhu]

The 6950X is Intel's Johnnie Walker Blue: it helps sell the lower tier processors by making their prices seem more reasonable.

 

[tential]

8 core zen needs to be at $400-500 to make this remotely interesting.

 

[Phynaz]

^Bam!

 

[VirtualLarry]

This isn't P&N. Keep this crap there please.

Then keep ALL of the "financial crap" out of CPUs & Overclocking. Stock prices are utterly irrelevant to how a CPU operates or how well it overclocks.

 

[moonbogg]

My 5960x is looking better and better every day!:thumbsup:

That chip could last you 20 years the way things are going. We are entering the "I have to replace my CPU because the damn thing finally BROKE after 20 years of heavy use" era.

 

[Rvenger]

I was excited to get an 8 core BDW-E. Even at the 6800K pricing, add the introductory inflated Newegg price of $500. They can keep it. 5820k from 2014 will stay in my rig.

That chip could last you 20 years the way things are going. We are entering the "I have to replace my CPU because the damn thing finally BROKE after 20 years of heavy use" era.

Right on! Sandy bridge still in my other rig and going strong. 15 more years to go!