Broadwell-E 10 Core Costs $1723

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beginner99

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I'm going to buy one as soon as they become available tonight. Already have my motherboard + new quad channel DDR4 kit in. I'm pumped. I believe that I am in my right mind

Well I don't know you so maybe you are just rich and it's your hobby. Still a cheaper hobby than racing cars or being an audiophile. Or you actually have some business that can profit from that CPU like 3D Rendering shop or similar.
 

Nothingness

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No professional trying to maximize productivity would buy an unlocked 10 core processor with a consumer-oriented X99 mobo. They’d be buying Xeon workstations and servers (which offer even more cores), and they’d be willing to pay extra for all the features associated with those platforms, such as multisocket support and ECC RAM support. At $1700, the 6950x isn’t even a discount compared to the pricier broadwell-ep lineup: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10158/the-intel-xeon-e5-v4-review/6

So it's not even cheap compared to the professional alternative.

If you’re on a budget and need cores, you’re much better off looking at the used Xeon market, where you can get even more cores for much less, and probably get equivalent performance at a lower power consumption, especially if the 6950x is overclocked.

A professional or company would only use an overclocked 6950x if it offers performance that absolutely found nowhere else, especially with the unreliability that comes with overclocking. It has a very small niche of multithreaded applications that scale very poorly beyond 10-12 cores. In all other cases, you can find a superior alternative elsewhere, as I discussed before.

This processor is directed only towards those enthusiasts whose ego won’t let them have anything less than the “largest” processor money can buy. That’s the market Intel is going after – just take a look at the leaked slides.
I couldn't have said it better :thumbsup:
 

stockwiz

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The people who would buy this chip aren't going to care if it's $1200 or $1800.. they're the ones with the disposable income who will be on here pulling out their $6000 system with the 10 core processor, multiple high end nvidia cards in SLI, 4K monitors, etc.

This price point makes sense to me... it's a niche product for rich people who will pay to get it... people with more dollars than brains... or people who just want to treat themselves and can write the whole mess off on their taxes as a business expense....
 
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jihe

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jihe

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IMHO, does not buy a 6950X because it is a "good value." One buys this chip when one wants to own the absolute fastest multi-threaded monster consumer chip on the planet. 6950X will appeal to those customers.

And my gosh, that box is slick. MrTeal may have been sarcastic when he was talking about a $500 box, but that is definitely a box I would keep around after the build is finished.
One buys this chip for his e-peen, I'm sure it'll score lots of e-girls.
 

Net

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LOL, wow. I'm glad I chose to upgrade my ram last month in favor of potentially upgrading to the new Broadwell when it came out.
 

IntelUser2000

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If you have money, and want to have a general fastest CPU, the HEDT platform is it.

The Xeon, while viable if you look for it, sacrifices gaming performance too much. The LGA 115x, is for enthusiasts that have to be somewhat price sensitive.

HEDT gets the fastest in both. Sure, gaming is slower. But by how much? Less than 5% according to Anandtech benches. Do you really need 25 extra frames when you are getting 300+ already? At 90-150 fps its still GPU bottlenecked enough that HEDT is in practice, the same as 6700K.

In multi-threaded applications though, you'll end up 25%, 50%, 75% faster than 6700K, depending on what HEDT chip you get. Now that's worth springing money for.

I'd do the same thing, I wouldn't get a Xeon, or a 6700K if money was zero worry for me. It's still a PC, not a workstation. I would want a fast PC, workstation second.

Spending is objective when you need to balance it out with more important things in your life: food, clothing, shelter. Not when you earn $150K.
 

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If you have money, and want to have a general fastest CPU, the HEDT platform is it.

The Xeon, while viable if you look for it, sacrifices gaming performance too much. The LGA 115x, is for enthusiasts that have to be somewhat price sensitive.

HEDT gets the fastest in both. Sure, gaming is slower. But by how much? Less than 5% according to Anandtech benches. Do you really need 25 extra frames when you are getting 300+ already? At 90-150 fps its still GPU bottlenecked enough that HEDT is in practice, the same as 6700K.

In multi-threaded applications though, you'll end up 25%, 50%, 75% faster than 6700K, depending on what HEDT chip you get. Now that's worth springing money for.

I'd do the same thing, I wouldn't get a Xeon, or a 6700K if money was zero worry for me. It's still a PC, not a workstation. I would want a fast PC, workstation second.

Spending is objective when you need to balance it out with more important things in your life: food, clothing, shelter. Not when you earn $150K.

That strain of semi-rational consumer decisions is how we get to things like 6,500 USD HDMI "Premium" HDMI cables.

http://www.amazon.com/WireWorld-Pla...mi cables&qid=1464679229&ref_=sr_1_29&sr=8-29

As well as 48,500 USD "Premium" speaker cables.

http://www.amazon.com/Wireworld-Pla...qid=1464679348&sr=8-4&keywords=speaker+cables
 

Burpo

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I wouldn't say so, given it's stolen property.

There's nothing stolen about these CPU's. They are used in servers from IBM, HP & others, which means intel sold the chips to HP or who ever. Those servers have since been retired or replaced, dis-assembled and the parts sold. You should read (carefully) what intel says about owning an ES processor ..

"ES Processors, they are generally only loaned by Intel..

Intel ES Processors are not made available to the general public by Intel.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/processors/000005719.html

The ES CPU's can't be purchased from intel, but can be purchased legally from retired servers and scrap dealers. Intel sold the chips and OEM's have since sold them again. Nothing illegal or stolen about it.
 
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ultimatebob

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How much do you think these processors would cost if AMD had a chip with similar performance? $900? $800? Less?
 
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Well I don't know you so maybe you are just rich and it's your hobby. Still a cheaper hobby than racing cars or being an audiophile. Or you actually have some business that can profit from that CPU like 3D Rendering shop or similar.

Don't need to be rich to buy a 6800K. I said BDW-E, not 6950X
 
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One buys this chip for his e-peen, I'm sure it'll score lots of e-girls.

Honestly if I bought a 6950X I wouldn't advertise that fact on web forums. It's the sort of thing that could have people assuming that you have more money than brains, even if you know full well what you are buying and why you are buying it.

That said I do hope that the people who are buying this chip do tell us so we can bug them for benchmarks/over clocking results.
 

Mercennarius

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And to think I built my dual X5690 setup with 24 threads, 48GB of RAM, a 390X, and a 1TB SSD for less than the price of this processor. Granted not all my parts were new, so not a fair comparison.
 
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And to think I built my dual X5690 setup with 24 threads, 48GB of RAM, a 390X, and a 1TB SSD for less than the price of this processor. Granted not all my parts were new, so not a fair comparison.

Yeah.

Bottom line is that Intel is finally recognizing that "Extreme Edition" customers are generally price insensitive and will pay for cool features like two more CPU cores. The 6950X supply sold out on Newegg.com and the product is now on back-order.

Strange how Newegg has a backorder feature for the 6950X but not for other items that go out of stock. I guess there's no other product they'd like to push instead of this monster so they've made backorder an option.
 

JimmiG

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No professional trying to maximize productivity would buy an unlocked 10 core processor with a consumer-oriented X99 mobo. They’d be buying Xeon workstations and servers (which offer even more cores), and they’d be willing to pay extra for all the features associated with those platforms, such as multisocket support and ECC RAM support. At $1700, the 6950x isn’t even a discount compared to the pricier broadwell-ep lineup: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10158/the-intel-xeon-e5-v4-review/6

So it's not even cheap compared to the professional alternative.

If you’re on a budget and need cores, you’re much better off looking at the used Xeon market, where you can get even more cores for much less, and probably get equivalent performance at a lower power consumption, especially if the 6950x is overclocked.

A professional or company would only use an overclocked 6950x if it offers performance that absolutely found nowhere else, especially with the unreliability that comes with overclocking. It has a very small niche of multithreaded applications that scale very poorly beyond 10-12 cores. In all other cases, you can find a superior alternative elsewhere, as I discussed before.

This processor is directed only towards those enthusiasts whose ego won’t let them have anything less than the “largest” processor money can buy. That’s the market Intel is going after – just take a look at the leaked slides.

Agreed. At ~$1000 for the flagship (Haswell-E), at least there was some value compared to the Xeons, if you only needed more cores but you were fine with a "consumer" motherboard/platform rather than a professional workstation platform.

The 6950X on the other hand is just an e-peen, an overpriced toy. It is not targeted at "professionals". It is in many ways the CPU equivalent of the diamond plated, platinum enforced, gold infused HDMI cable.
 
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I could see a case maybe for the 6800k for folks that need the extra pci-x lanes , assuming it overclocks well. The others above that IMO are more just people needing it for small business that can write it off that way, or wealthy people with money to blow for bragging rights. There is no shortage of them though - see the people paying $1300 on ebay for Founder's Edition 1080s.
 
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I could see a case maybe for the 6800k for folks that need the extra pci-x lanes , assuming it overclocks well. The others above that IMO are more just people needing it for small business that can write it off that way, or wealthy people with money to blow for bragging rights. There is no shortage of them though - see the people paying $1300 on ebay for Founder's Edition 1080s.

I don't think spending $1700 on a CPU means you are wealthy. Wealthy means that you can buy a $300K sports car in cash and not bat an eye. That is wealthy.

With proper saving and with a passion for PC gaming, a high end gaming system even with a 6950X is not out of reach for somebody of modest means.
 
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