Broadwell-E discussion

[dark zero]

The fact that broadwell-e is coming ~6 months AFTER Skylake is just pathetic., HEDT platform is now 18months behind in tech.

Hoping that AMD revives from the death and brings the HEDT again.
If the HEDT dies, eventully, destop and Mobile dies too due the lack of improvement.

 

[Qwertilot]

Wouldn't be a surprise if they started diverging them a bit - the sweet spot for the mainstream cores in terms of power draw has been getting lower and lower with the recent die shrinks.

Give it another die shrink or two, and will mainstream core even really qualify as a large core design any more? They'll likely want some non trivial differences for servers at some point.

In the end a 20 fold difference in net power targets simply is hard to bridge happily

 

[tenks]

the HEDT platform is merging with the consumer desktop platform with kabylake pch in 2017ish.

I think broadwell-e will be the last traditional HEDT platform with it's own chipset.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

The fact that broadwell-e is coming ~6 months AFTER Skylake is just pathetic., HEDT platform is now 18months behind in tech.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-a...eveals-10nm-cannonlake-and-skylake--32052522/

This roadmap makes it look like they're skipping Broadwell-E and going straight to Skylake-E middle of 2016.

 

[Arachnotronic]

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-a...eveals-10nm-cannonlake-and-skylake--32052522/

This roadmap makes it look like they're skipping Broadwell-E and going straight to Skylake-E middle of 2016.

Very old roadmap.

 

[dark zero]

the HEDT platform is merging with the consumer desktop platform with kabylake pch in 2017ish.

I think broadwell-e will be the last traditional HEDT platform with it's own chipset.

Mmm... I see the dead of HEDT on Canonlake, when the BIG revamp thanks to the sacrifice of AMD (yeah, Zen feels a revamp) happens:
- The Celeron will have finally over 3.0 Ghz of clock
- Pentium will have HT (making the new budget chip again)
- Core i3 will be REAL Quads Cores
- Core i5 will be Quads with HT
- Core i7 will be finally Hexas with HT/Octas without HT.

 

[tenks]

Mmm... I see the dead of HEDT on Canonlake, when the BIG revamp thanks to the sacrifice of AMD (yeah, Zen feels a revamp) happens:
- The Celeron will have finally over 3.0 Ghz of clock
- Pentium will have HT (making the new budget chip again)
- Core i3 will be REAL Quads Cores
- Core i5 will be Quads with HT
- Core i7 will be finally Hexas with HT/Octas without HT.

sweepr or shintaidk spotted it...

Whatever HEDT comes after Skylake-E looks to be using the consumer desktop PCH. Heck, maybe even skylake-e will be using it. Being that the HEDT platform is 2 generaations behind, I wouldn't be surprised if Skylake-E drops around the time Kabylake does...making it perfect to use with it's PCH

lower right hand corner.

 

[Arachnotronic]

sweepr or shintaidk spotted it...

Whatever HEDT comes after Skylake-E looks to be using the consumer desktop PCH. Heck, maybe even skylake-e will be using it. Being that the HEDT platform is 2 generaations behind, I wouldn't be surprised if Skylake-E drops around the time Kabylake does...making it perfect to use with it's PCH

lower right hand corner.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37619023&postcount=3329

It's Skylake-E using the Kaby Lake PCH.

 

[tenks]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37619023&postcount=3329

It's Skylake-E using the Kaby Lake PCH.

Yes, thats the orginal post where I got this notion from..I guess I just didn't realize at the time that it was for sure Skylake-E, because I assumed there was x109? chip set coming along with it. Thanks for digging that up, my speculation was already a proven thing, lol.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yes, thats the orginal post where I got this notion from..I guess I just didn't realize at the time that it was for sure Skylake-E, because I assumed there was x109? chip set coming along with it. Thanks for digging that up, my speculation was already a proven thing, lol.

:thumbsup:

 

[ShintaiDK]

 

[tenks]

Shintai where you dig this stuff up from? MAN! always johnny on the spot.


Feb-March?

 

[Arachnotronic]

Shintai where you dig this stuff up from? MAN! always johnny on the spot.


Feb-March?

I urge all enthusiasts to bookmark BenchLife.info. These guys seem to be the new Chinese VR Zone with these leaks. Great stuff :thumbsup:

https://benchlife.info/intel-broadwell-e-seem-will-announce-in-cebit-2016-09082015/

 

[tenks]

I urge all enthusiasts to bookmark BenchLife.info. These guys seem to be the new Chinese VR Zone with these leaks. Great stuff :thumbsup:

https://benchlife.info/intel-broadwell-e-seem-will-announce-in-cebit-2016-09082015/

I was just going to say that he got it from wccftech but didn't wanna admit it

 

[Arachnotronic]

I was just going to say that he got it from wccftech but didn't wanna admit it

 

[ShintaiDK]

Benchlife.info is the current hotspot.

If its not Chinese, its worthless as a first source

 

[AdamK47]

Shintai where you dig this stuff up from? MAN! always johnny on the spot.


Feb-March?

Half a year away.

Looks like I'll have a long period of not being able to upgrade to anything.

 

[YBS1]

Half a year away.

Looks like I'll have a long period of not being able to upgrade to anything.

nvme

There is always something.....

 

[jpiniero]

Feb-March?

If Feb-March is when they are STARTING production, you aren't going to be able to buy anything then; it'd be much later than that.

 

[tenks]

If Feb-March is when they are STARTING production, you aren't going to be able to buy anything then; it'd be much later than that.

q1 release, so yes it's coming out in Feb-March. Production will have been started by then. If you read the article, they're targeting Cebit in March for release, which is still q1.

also, I really hate how intel always says a QTRX for a product and its always the last month in said quarter. BLEH

 

[ComputerGuy2006]

It's a long time, but hopefully it will be worth the wait. With zen in 2016 I could see Intel releasing something interesting March.

 

[Edrick]

q1 release, so yes it's coming out in Feb-March. Production will have been started by then. If you read the article, they're targeting Cebit in March for release, which is still q1.

Announcement or Release? Those are 2 very different things to Intel these days.

 

[Fjodor2001]

So the bad news is that Broadwell-E is delayed again, but the good news is that it at least is not canceled (yet).

 

[moonbogg]

Skylake-E is what I'm aiming at.

 

[jpiniero]

Announcement or Release? Those are 2 very different things to Intel these days.

They could (of course) paper launch it.