brown recluse spider bite

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz

Originally posted by: Amused
It is my understanding that reactions like the OP's pic to Recluse bites are actually quite rare, and that the vast majority of bites result merely in raised red and painful bumps that heal completely and without scaring.

Really? my wife had to get a skin graph

Most bites are minor with no necrosis. However, a small number of bites produce severe dermonecrotic lesions, and, sometimes, severe systemic symptoms. These symptoms can include organ damage, and occasionally even death; most fatalities are in children under 7 [7] or those with a weaker than normal immune system. (For a comparison of the toxicity of several kinds of spider bites, see the list of spiders having medically significant venom.)

A minority of brown recluse spider bites form a necrotizing ulcer that destroys soft tissue and may take months to heal, leaving deep scars. The damaged tissue will become gangrenous and eventually slough away. The initial bite frequently cannot be felt and there may be no pain, but over time the wound may grow to as large as 10 inches (25 cm) in extreme cases. Bites usually become painful and itchy within 2 to 8 hours; pain and other local effects worsen 12 to 36 hours after the bite with the necrosis developing over the next few days.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider

What's scary is that these spiders are known for hiding. They'll get in coat sleeves and vaginas. You never know when you'll get bit...

 

[rh71]

first thing on the list when deciding where to move...

1) does the state have nasty spiders
2) does the area have high speed internet
3) will I be made fun of for living in that state?

standard stuff...

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: runzwithsizorz

Originally posted by: Amused
It is my understanding that reactions like the OP's pic to Recluse bites are actually quite rare, and that the vast majority of bites result merely in raised red and painful bumps that heal completely and without scaring.

Really? my wife had to get a skin graph

Most bites are minor with no necrosis. However, a small number of bites produce severe dermonecrotic lesions, and, sometimes, severe systemic symptoms. These symptoms can include organ damage, and occasionally even death; most fatalities are in children under 7 [7] or those with a weaker than normal immune system. (For a comparison of the toxicity of several kinds of spider bites, see the list of spiders having medically significant venom.)

A minority of brown recluse spider bites form a necrotizing ulcer that destroys soft tissue and may take months to heal, leaving deep scars. The damaged tissue will become gangrenous and eventually slough away. The initial bite frequently cannot be felt and there may be no pain, but over time the wound may grow to as large as 10 inches (25 cm) in extreme cases. Bites usually become painful and itchy within 2 to 8 hours; pain and other local effects worsen 12 to 36 hours after the bite with the necrosis developing over the next few days.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider

What's scary is that these spiders are known for hiding. They'll get in coat sleeves and vaginas. You never know when you'll get bit...

:laugh:

 

[her209]

That's nothing. Do a search for "bad spider bite" on YouTube.

 

[tboo]

Originally posted by: Amused
It is my understanding that reactions like the OP's pic to Recluse bites are actually quite rare, and that the vast majority of bites result merely in raised red and painful bumps that heal completely and without scaring.

This- only a small amount of people bitten by the brown recluse react with necrosis

 

[Gooberlx2]

How 'bout a rattlesnake envenomation. *Possibly NSFW, I dunno* That happened to my old manager at the aquarium I worked at. One of our snakes had an infection, in the venom sac. Managed to avoid the isolation tube for treatment and bit. Manager got a full dose of infected venom in the meat between his thumb and forefinger; larger than normal since the snake hadn't eaten in more than a month and been able to expel any venom.

Needless to say, my manager circled the drain and spent about a month between ICU and PCU care, mostly because of septicemia. It was a mess, and his arm turned out a good bit more mangled than that kid's.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: tboo

Originally posted by: Amused
It is my understanding that reactions like the OP's pic to Recluse bites are actually quite rare, and that the vast majority of bites result merely in raised red and painful bumps that heal completely and without scaring.

This- only a small amount of people bitten by the brown recluse react with necrosis

Only a small amount of people get bit by them, and then only a small amount get any dose of venom strong enough to do much to them, and only a small amount have a strong reaction to it, and typically the only ones that end up with anything resembling those pictures are the ones that don't get treatment for weeks. So yeah, it is not common at all.

A lot of things get misdiagnosed as spider bites, and actually its rarely the venom that causes anything beyond temporary nausea, its usually an infection from not treating the bite (disinfect and bandage) that ends up doing the damage.

 

[darkxshade]

tagged... blocked at work

 

[queenrobot]

My best friends mom got bit in three places by a brown recluse. She put raw garlic on the wounds and it stopped them from getting any worse than just a swollen red bump. Weird.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: queenrobot
My best friends mom got bit in three places by a brown recluse. She put raw garlic on the wounds and it stopped them from getting any worse than just a swollen red bump. Weird.

I highly doubt the garlic had anything to do with it.

Originally posted by: Amused
...the vast majority of bites result merely in raised red and painful bumps that heal completely and without scaring.

 

[queenrobot]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: queenrobot
My best friends mom got bit in three places by a brown recluse. She put raw garlic on the wounds and it stopped them from getting any worse than just a swollen red bump. Weird.

I highly doubt the garlic had anything to do with it.


It is weird theory, but that is what they say to use where I am from. (South Texas)

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
How 'bout a rattlesnake envenomation. *Possibly NSFW, I dunno* That happened to my old manager at the aquarium I worked at. One of our snakes had an infection, in the venom sac. Managed to avoid the isolation tube for treatment and bit. Manager got a full dose of infected venom in the meat between his thumb and forefinger; larger than normal since the snake hadn't eaten in more than a month and been able to expel any venom.

Needless to say, my manager circled the drain and spent about a month between ICU and PCU care, mostly because of septicemia. It was a mess, and his arm turned out a good bit more mangled than that kid's.

h-o-l-y c-r-a-p

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: queenrobot

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: queenrobot
My best friends mom got bit in three places by a brown recluse. She put raw garlic on the wounds and it stopped them from getting any worse than just a swollen red bump. Weird.

I highly doubt the garlic had anything to do with it.


It is weird theory, but that is what they say to use where I am from. (South Texas)

It has some basis in reality, but there are probably other/better ways to go about it.

Briefly, a lot (probably most) of the toxic effects of the venom are due to enzymes (proteins).

Garlic contains proteases which can possibly degrade and inactivate them. Meat tenderizer would probably be a better choice.

But there's no way to know if it really helped in an individual case like this as the result was the most likely outcome regardless.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: tboo

Originally posted by: Amused
It is my understanding that reactions like the OP's pic to Recluse bites are actually quite rare, and that the vast majority of bites result merely in raised red and painful bumps that heal completely and without scaring.

This- only a small amount of people bitten by the brown recluse react with necrosis

Only a small amount of people get bit by them, and then only a small amount get any dose of venom strong enough to do much to them, and only a small amount have a strong reaction to it, and typically the only ones that end up with anything resembling those pictures are the ones that don't get treatment for weeks. So yeah, it is not common at all.

A lot of things get misdiagnosed as spider bites, and actually its rarely the venom that causes anything beyond temporary nausea, its usually an infection from not treating the bite (disinfect and bandage) that ends up doing the damage.

This.
Brown recluses commonly do not inject venom, as bites from them tend to be a warning.
From the brown recluses position: "oh, this is a lovely shoe. nice and cozy, dark and I get to hide. oh wait, what's this?! something intruding on my newly found awesome space! agghhhhh, squishing! deploy fangs!!!!!!!!"

The problem with Brown Recluse bites, is that they have some good sized fangs, which leave holes in the skin. Now, their venom is a strong tissue-killing toxin, but with humans, it takes a lot to do anything as it spreads through the body. Now, if they did deliver toxin, what can happen, is if the wound is not properly treated, the toxin *may* stay behind in the wound. Not sure if this is the case, but it could result in magnification of necrosis. But forget about venom. The majority of necrosis cases are from bad wound treatment, and remember, you just got two little holes that may develop into one larger hole. Guess what often lives on the skin? Various bacteria, notably the staph variety. Staph infections tend to be what causes the majority of necrosis in an improperly treated wound.

Get a spider bite that looks nasty, do yourself a favor and treat it like any other wound. Open skin wounds, untreated, can all lead to nasty infections. Minor scrapes just as often progress to nasty gaping gangrenous wounds as Brown Recluse bites.

 

[Pastore]

This thread makes me want to die... and never wear shoes again...

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
How 'bout a rattlesnake envenomation. *Possibly NSFW, I dunno* That happened to my old manager at the aquarium I worked at. One of our snakes had an infection, in the venom sac. Managed to avoid the isolation tube for treatment and bit. Manager got a full dose of infected venom in the meat between his thumb and forefinger; larger than normal since the snake hadn't eaten in more than a month and been able to expel any venom.

Needless to say, my manager circled the drain and spent about a month between ICU and PCU care, mostly because of septicemia. It was a mess, and his arm turned out a good bit more mangled than that kid's.

h-o-l-y c-r-a-p

Yeah Double You Tee Eff, I hate snakes.

 

[Rill22]

I got bit by a brown recluse when I was about 17 or so. I didn't let it get that bad though.

 

[compman25]

Damn, all we have are Hobo spiders.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: Black88GTA
I think the pic tags about sum it up....

Tags: wtf internet fuck epic pain real ouch the of fucking

:laugh:

Damn, beat me to it. The tags made me seriously lol

 

[WaTaGuMp]

So this whole thing about being bit by a spider on the finger and becoming a superhero is bullshit?

 

[dquan97]

blocked...mirror?

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
So this whole thing about being bit by a spider on the finger and becoming a superhero is bullshit?

Depends on if the spider has had it's DNA modified or not.