BSOD problem

[netxzero64]

Hi,

Recently i'm beginning to experience BSOD on my machine specially after 4-5 hours of gaming and this does not happen when the pc is just being used for net surfing or simple windows stuff. If I remember it right, the code on the BSOD was 00x000009 or something like that which I looked up on google and it gave me a result of a random machine error that was unrecoverable. I know its not the GPU nor the PSU as I have gotten these 2 for less than a week and this has been happening even before I upgraded my gpu and psu.

On the other hand, im running my i5 at 4.5ghz @ 1.275v with my Z77 sniper M3 from gigabyte and rams with kingston hyperx predator running at stock 2400mhz 1.66v. My question is, would the rams be the culprit of this? or possibly more of the processor running unstable now with the voltage?

all of your insights will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

[greenhawk]

An overclocked CPU is possible.

My computer started with the crashing during gaming and it got to the point it was about 20 minutes into a game. The crashing occurrence started happening more often after I upgraded video cards. Running at a lower video setting put off the crashes somewhat.

In the end I think it is my motherboard overheating. The chipset is reporting very high temps before it crashes, so I am looking to replace the thermal paste on it when I get a chance (I can not be without a PC for the next week or so, even for a few hours).

Though I do think my issue is getting worse (summer starting, where I am anyway) as it is crashing while running VMs now as well as games.

 

[netxzero64]

I see. I have been under this overclock setting for a long time now and it just so happens that this BSOD suddenly starting to happen. Would upping the voltage matter? How do I go about to check the mobo temps? what software/tool would I use?

Thanks so much!

 

[ArisVer]

Hardware Monitor and Speccy are usefull for temps. Maybe your motherboard manufacturer provides a utility as well.

 

[escrow4]

Your CPU is degrading, knock the speed and volts down and I'd only run DDR3 @ 1.5v stock voltage.

 

[netxzero64]

Hardware Monitor and Speccy are usefull for temps. Maybe your motherboard manufacturer provides a utility as well.

Your CPU is degrading, knock the speed and volts down and I'd only run DDR3 @ 1.5v stock voltage.

What specific value should i check on hwmonitor for the mobo?

I tried upping the voltage by 0.01v for a while.

 

[netxzero64]

Memory is just under stock speed and voltage of 1.66v.

 

[crashtech]

Record all your present settings and then return the BIOS to factory defaults. If your problem goes away, it probably has something to do with your overclock. If you find this cures your problem, you could slowly return one setting after another to something close to their overclocked values, leaving time between each adjustment to be able to notice problems. At some point you may start getting BSODs again, at which point the last thing to be adjusted upward, or its power delivery system, is probably the proximate cause of the problem.

 

[netxzero64]

Good idea. I just dont get the power delivery system. What do you mean by that? Is that the power supply? Or the motherboard's way of distributing power?

 

[crashtech]

One or more of the power phases on the motherboard could be bad, in which case it might run well at lower power (speed), or it might not. Very difficult to diagnose.

 

[Burpo]

Your CPU is degrading, knock the speed and volts down and I'd only run DDR3 @ 1.5v stock voltage.

This..
1600mhz is what Intel's integrated memory controller supports. Anything higher than that is an overclock and can't be guaranteed to work properly. Intel also warns that memory voltage over 1.65v can permanently damage the CPU.

 

[Ryanrenesis]

What's your VRIN voltage and RING voltage?

I run my i5 @ 4.7Ghz 100% stable at 1.27V Vcore, 2.35V VRIN, and 1.35V RING.

I noticed if I used the AUTO function on VRIN and RING voltage, it will be stable even in Intel Burn Test on High after 10 runs, but BSOD after 5 or so hours of gaming. Dropping my VRIN below 2.3V it will BSOD after some time gaming as well.

 

[crashtech]

I've never seen 1.65V break anything, even though it is out of spec. .01V over that surely wouldn't be cause for alarm, imo, especially if the CPU is well cooled.

 

[netxzero64]

This..
1600mhz is what Intel's integrated memory controller supports. Anything higher than that is an overclock and can't be guaranteed to work properly. Intel also warns that memory voltage over 1.65v can permanently damage the CPU.

Oh, this is the first time i heard that anything past 1600mhz is an overclock already.

What's your VRIN voltage and RING voltage?

I run my i5 @ 4.7Ghz 100% stable at 1.27V Vcore, 2.35V VRIN, and 1.35V RING.

I noticed if I used the AUTO function on VRIN and RING voltage, it will be stable even in Intel Burn Test on High after 10 runs, but BSOD after 5 or so hours of gaming. Dropping my VRIN below 2.3V it will BSOD after some time gaming as well.

How do i go about check that vrin or ring?

I've never seen 1.65V break anything, even though it is out of spec. .01V over that surely wouldn't be cause for alarm, imo, especially if the CPU is well cooled.

Thats what i believe is correct. My cpu never runs above 68c as tested 24/7.

BSOD never happened again after i reverted back to 344.16 whql as i have read over the net that the drivers for nvidia got shitty after this one and i also did a driver sweeper prior reverting which lighten up my pc as it was so slow before and probably is also the reason why i go BSOD. I will test this later further so that i would really prove that the whql driver and the driver sweeper solved the problem.

 

[crashtech]

Nice catch, if so. We were pretty quick to blame your overclock, but then again I don't think you mentioned the driver change.

 

[netxzero64]

Nice catch, if so. We were pretty quick to blame your overclock, but then again I don't think you mentioned the driver change.

yeah i thought it was my overclock too but no. my brothers and me have been playing all day and switch persons on the pc and after 24 hours of non-stop gaming, no BSOD after reverting to the 344.16 WHQL.

I got so scared when I thought that the processor or motherboard might be the culprit.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Oh, this is the first time i heard that anything past 1600mhz is an overclock already.

How do i go about check that vrin or ring?

Thats what i believe is correct. My cpu never runs above 68c as tested 24/7.

BSOD never happened again after i reverted back to 344.16 whql as i have read over the net that the drivers for nvidia got shitty after this one and i also did a driver sweeper prior reverting which lighten up my pc as it was so slow before and probably is also the reason why i go BSOD. I will test this later further so that i would really prove that the whql driver and the driver sweeper solved the problem.

Yes, instead of the actual hardware, it could be a graphics or other driver.

You mentioned that your BSOD Stop Code was "09 something?" If it ended in 09C, check your XMP profile, make sure the RAM is running at the spec speed or what you'd validated it for, and see if the command rate is set to 1 as result of setting it to "auto" with the XMP profile enabled. If it "auto" defaults to 1, manually change it to 2.

Then run your memory testing software on the system.

Sometimes, at an overclock CPU speed, it also needs a little boost to VCCIO if the RAM us using Command Rate =1 under XMP settings.

I just THROW THIS OUT THERE AS SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK, despite finding the driver at fault. I would never have imagined -- with some memory kits and motherboards/BIOS's -- that XMP would give you CMD 1 by default. The memory "spec" is usually 2 or "2N".

this could all be a dead end, and your NVidia driver was to blame (it looked to me as though such was what you're using).

 

[netxzero64]

I see. I will check it out later and look about the xmp profile as its been a while since i took note of the memory side of things but yes, after i reverted back to an older driver, the bsod never happened again.

 

[escrow4]

On that 1600MHz memory note, Intel specs the controller for its CPUs and anything beyond that may or not work. So on my X99 system 2133MHz is officially supported, anything over that is overclocking and may work fine or not. I use a 2133MHz kit.