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It's easy to blame the parents in this case because it is 100% the fault of the parents. The parents are the one's buying kids a 'toy' that CLEARLY states it is not for children. This would be no different then buying your 4 year a bottle of sleeping pills as toys. If another kid's parents is doing this, I'd suggest you police that kid and not let him hang with your kid. If that kid still manages to hang with your kid and your kid eats the magnets, then I suggest the other kids parents be charged with reckless endangerment for buying their kids something that CLEARLY states is not to be given to children. Finally, if you can't trust your teenagers not to give these to small children, then don't let them own any either.

The fact is the only way children can be harmed by these balls is if a parent fails to be a parent and allows their children to own these balls. The same argument for banning Mature and Adult games. The only way kids can get their hands on these is for an adult to be irresponsible. That adult should be punished rather than punishing everyone else.

you're assuming parents buy them for children. They are easily found on desks in a lot of home offices. Kids find them, and no one ever bought them for them.
 

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you're assuming parents buy them for children. They are easily found on desks in a lot of home offices. Kids find them, and no one ever bought them for them.

There's a lot of truth to that too. My 4 year old is a good kid, but she's got some quirks. My house is kind of a split level where the bedroom for the kids are on the top floor, my office is in a middle floor, and our living room/master BR is on the main. Some nights she'll sneak down to my office and steal ink pens or paper or even my wallet once and stash it under her pillow. No clue why, but she does it once every couple months. None of that is intended for kids, but they still get them.

Now I'm sure people could argue to lock the office or hell, lock the kid in her room. But the truth is, kids are going to do shit that you can't plan for. If it looks interesting, they are going to find a way to get to it. I've found the little step stools that are in the bathrooms for washing hands in other rooms to reach up higher. If you are just one parent that is home it's not like you can stick your kids in a crate if you need to use the bathroom for a few minutes.

There's just some behavior that they'll do that you can't account or plan for. Which really has nothing to do with the banning of these things...but I digress...parents can't stop everything from happening.
 

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My kids daycare banned all magnets based on a similar story. Completely wacked, if you ask me. They have scissors, pencils, toys with small parts, etc., all of which could hurt a child when ingested. Why not put the world in a giant bubble?
 

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eff this. Poor parenting is to blame. nanny state ftl.

So many of my liberal friends tell me the nanny state is just in my head.

Jeez, I never swallowed anything when l was a kid. Either I was super smart or today's kids and parents are getting super dumb. I'm leaning on the latter. Is this really that much of a crisis or has the US finally solved the recession and is looking for busy work?
 

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My kids daycare banned all magnets based on a similar story. Completely wacked, if you ask me. They have scissors, pencils, toys with small parts, etc., all of which could hurt a child when ingested. Why not put the world in a giant bubble?

Again, magnets are kind of unique and a huge issue that many people don't think about. My wife works the surgical floors and kids having OR visits for magent getting cut out of their guts are more common that you would think.
 

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I prefer the larger magnets that will actually cause ferrous objects to fly across the room, like lawn darts for instance.
 

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Again, magnets are kind of unique and a huge issue that many people don't think about. My wife works the surgical floors and kids having OR visits for magent getting cut out of their guts are more common that you would think.

Stupid people are more common than you think. Fuck the stupid. Every time I see a red left turn arrow I say this to myself.
 

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Again, magnets are kind of unique and a huge issue that many people don't think about. My wife works the surgical floors and kids having OR visits for magent getting cut out of their guts are more common that you would think.

They have a special tool in the ER of many hospitals for removing those magnets from kids' noses. I know because while my kids aren't stupid enough to swallow magnets, one of them had an accident while playing with magnets (making it look like he had a pierced septum. Same polarity of the magnets facing each other, one side flipped (upward, into the nose) when it slipped out of his hand, then the other shot up to meet it.

The ER doc knew exactly what to do - it happens all the time.
 

iRONic

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i didnt read the article.
Mebbe you should... before you post a falsely titled thread...?

The Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) ordered a halt to sale of Buckyballs magnetic toys on Wednesday, calling them a serious hazard in the panel's first stop-sale order in 11 years.

The commission ordered distributor Maxfield and Oberton Holdings of New York to halt sales because injuries to children who had swallowed them had continued to rise, the CPSC said in a complaint.
 

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Just ban stupid people young or old so people with a brain and common sense can enjoy the finer things in life, like AK-47 and grenade launchers.
 

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It's an act against nature to prevent Darwin from having what is due to him.

Lawn darts for everyone!
 

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There's a lot of truth to that too. My 4 year old is a good kid, but she's got some quirks. My house is kind of a split level where the bedroom for the kids are on the top floor, my office is in a middle floor, and our living room/master BR is on the main. Some nights she'll sneak down to my office and steal ink pens or paper or even my wallet once and stash it under her pillow. No clue why, but she does it once every couple months. None of that is intended for kids, but they still get them.

Now I'm sure people could argue to lock the office or hell, lock the kid in her room. But the truth is, kids are going to do shit that you can't plan for. If it looks interesting, they are going to find a way to get to it. I've found the little step stools that are in the bathrooms for washing hands in other rooms to reach up higher. If you are just one parent that is home it's not like you can stick your kids in a crate if you need to use the bathroom for a few minutes.

There's just some behavior that they'll do that you can't account or plan for. Which really has nothing to do with the banning of these things...but I digress...parents can't stop everything from happening.

What would you do with prescription meds? Cleaners? Guns? I would do the same thing with anything that could kill my children.

It's this lazy "I can't stop them" attitude that is causing this problem. When I was 4, I knew not to go into my parents things, I would have gotten my ass beat.
 

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hmm maybe there's a market for a grill that can placed in front of children's mouth so they can't ingest large objects.
 

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What would you do with prescription meds? Cleaners? Guns? I would do the same thing with anything that could kill my children.

It's this lazy "I can't stop them" attitude that is causing this problem. When I was 4, I knew not to go into my parents things, I would have gotten my ass beat.

Don't have guns in the house. Cleaners are kept about 6' off the ground in a shelf. Drugs are even higher up. I don't even own these things. Problem is that many people don't understand the health risks of magnets and it's only gaining some attention as of late. People think of magnets as toys and not something that can mangle your intestines if swallowed. Frankly I wouldn't have really thought about magnets being as dangerous as they are had my wife not told me about a couple cases she was working with at her job.

And as far as 4 year olds not knowing where to go...yeah most of them know not to go there. But they still do. And you likely did as well. It's just the nature of being a kid.
 

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The only thing that should be done is require them to place a large warning label on the product. Banning this product is like banning plastic bags, kids die from them but people are smart enough to know now that they can be a hazard, same goes for this product. It isn't the products fault. Are they going to ban ball bearings ? Because those can be magnetized easily to have the same effect . What about fridge magnets ? They sell some rare earth versions of those now too. Q-tips need to be banned too because those can be stuck in the ear causing deafness.
 

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Some nights she'll sneak down to my office and steal ink pens or paper or even my wallet once and stash it under her pillow. No clue why, but she does it once every couple months. None of that is intended for kids, but they still get them.

Consider putting a door alarm on the bedroom, seriously. A good friend lost his 5 year old because during the night the kid got up, walked to the pool door and walked out and drowned in the pool, they think trying to get to his favorite water blowup toy. The pool door was never locked but always closed and they never thought about the kid getting up during the night and walking out to the pool.

The ones I like for a childs room are not siren type, they make the 'ding' sound whenever triggered, and after 10 minutes they go to a siren sound. So if the child gets up during the night to use the bathroom they have 10 minutes to return before the alarm sounds.




I digress...parents can't stop everything from happening.

True, but there are a lot of parents who set the kids in front of the tv and go to other parts of the home for hours. You can't stop everything but many parents could do much better by just not leaving kids alone for so long.
 

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Don't have guns in the house. Cleaners are kept about 6' off the ground in a shelf. Drugs are even higher up. I don't even own these things. Problem is that many people don't understand the health risks of magnets and it's only gaining some attention as of late. People think of magnets as toys and not something that can mangle your intestines if swallowed. Frankly I wouldn't have really thought about magnets being as dangerous as they are had my wife not told me about a couple cases she was working with at her job.

And as far as 4 year olds not knowing where to go...yeah most of them know not to go there. But they still do. And you likely did as well. It's just the nature of being a kid.

So again, the problem is stupid, un-educated parents. If I bought something that said

I would think this must be a dangerous item and to keep it at least as safe as I do my drugs and poison cleansers, if not as safe as my guns. There is zero chance that any child could get to my guns, it's not that hard to put away your toys! We expect kids to put away there toys, maybe the parents should start.
 
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