Question Build Advice - Gaming/flight sim/VR New Build ~$3000 for Tower, mostly complete, LOTS of questions - Updated 7/21

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Thanks- can I ask why you suggest this particular card? It’s not white but it is cheaper than both the aero and aorus master. Which card is this comparable to? Why this over aero or aorus master?
For me, it looks cool and it is supposed to offer better airflow. Air gets sucked in from the front and gets exhausted out the back on the flip side of the card. Fans at the top of the case would help to remove that hot air and that hot air would naturally move upwards through the case and out the top vents anyway if there are no fans..
 
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For me, it looks cool and it is supposed to offer better airflow. Air gets sucked in from the front and gets exhausted out the back on the flip side of the card. Fans at the top of the case would help to remove that hot air and that hot air would naturally move upwards through the case and out the top vents anyway if there are no fans..
hmm, its still a 2 fan solution...the aorus master supposedly has extremely good thermals with its 12 pipes and vapor chamber and 3 fans. im having trouble finding data to support one super card over the other, but really looking for a reason to get a white card instead of the aorus master...not sure i would go for the MSI card over the aorus at this point
 
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Just wanted to share an update - been slowly buying parts as prices/sales have happened still targeting end of august build.

hoping someone can still weigh in on the 4080 super question!

also, is it just my imagination, or are many parts costs rising? i could swear the CPU, memory, NVME, and PSU were all cheaper just a few days/weeks ago...

Anything that is 'purchased' includes tax in the cost of the price

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($383.54 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: EK EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB 72 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($163.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670E AORUS PRO X ATX AM5 Motherboard (Purchased For $298.54)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($319.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte AORUS MASTER GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ B&H)
Case: Lian Li O11D EVO RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $170.57)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - USB 64-bit (Purchased For $0.00)
Case Fan: Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 61.3 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (Purchased For $70.36)
Case Fan: Lian Li Uni Fan SL-Infinity 72.7 CFM 140 mm Fan (Purchased For $38.37)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI FAN TL 120 Reverse Blade 83.4 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (Purchased For $106.61)
Case Fan: Lian Li UNI FAN TL LCD 120 Reverse Blade 83.4 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack (Purchased For $147.94)
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G9 G93SC 49.0" 5120 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor (Purchased For $1067.87)
Keyboard: Razer Huntsman V3 Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard WHITE (Purchased For $208.44)
Mouse: Razer Basilisk V3 Pro Wired/Bluetooth/Wireless Optical Mouse (Purchased For $145.00)
Custom: AsiaHorse 12VHPWR Cable Extension Kit, 16AWG 16Pin PSU Cable Extension Kit Soft Braided Sleeved Cables for 24pin ATX /4+4pin EPS /12+4pin, 30CM Length with Cable Combs (White) (Purchased For $28.78)
Custom: Lian-Li Universal 4- Slots Vertical GPU kit (White, VG4-4-V2W) (Purchased For $81.90)
Total: $4821.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-30 14:09 EDT-0400
 
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There were definitely some deals for Amazon's Prime Day. Buying everything all at once is probably not optimal for the wallet. You can cherry pick deals as they come along; however you run the small risk of a DOA item that you can't return within 30 days so you'll have to go through the manufacturer for warranty replacement.

Instead of paying $170 for that PSU, you can get a nice Seasonic for $115:

 
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An idea. How about you get this? https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-003E-00CF7?Item=9SIB11NK4P4079

In November, replace the CPU with 9950X3D or 9800X3D and you save yourself some good money and still have a darn good gaming machine.
Im not sure this is a helpful suggestion - and im not sure that machine is limited by the CPU with a 4060ti.
i dont think it fits the aesthetic i chose, or fits the plan/requirements ive laid out, doesnt allow me choice over my parts, and overall really isnt anything close to what i am looking for.

7600/4060Ti for high performance flight simulator?
Doesnt seem to be what I want.

There were definitely some deals for Amazon's Prime Day. Buying everything all at once is probably not optimal for the wallet. You can cherry pick deals as they come along; however you run the small risk of a DOA item that you can't return within 30 days so you'll have to go through the manufacturer for warranty replacement.

Instead of paying $170 for that PSU, you can get a nice Seasonic for $115:

Yea - unfortunate to miss them.
Haha, ive been very careful about which parts im buying, and ensuring the arrival windows are going to be within the 30 day return for the build period. this is good advice though overall, which is why i guess im sort of playing the odds here and trying to 'time' the deals over the next 2-3 weeks. unfortunately the reality is ill win some and lose some and probably be +/- ~200 bucks give or take depending on how lucky or unlucky i am.

i had been back and forth about that PSU and the corsair multiple times actually, and its a good looking unit. i already bought https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4KCWLTC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 this extension kit. would it work the the seasonic power supply? if it does - then i will 'call an audible' on the day of purchase and get whichever one is cheaper at the time. the corsair was like 115$ just a few days ago
 

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Im not sure this is a helpful suggestion - and im not sure that machine is limited by the CPU with a 4060ti.
i dont think it fits the aesthetic i chose, or fits the plan/requirements ive laid out, doesnt allow me choice over my parts, and overall really isnt anything close to what i am looking for.


Doesnt seem to be what I want.


Yea - unfortunate to miss them.
Haha, ive been very careful about which parts im buying, and ensuring the arrival windows are going to be within the 30 day return for the build period. this is good advice though overall, which is why i guess im sort of playing the odds here and trying to 'time' the deals over the next 2-3 weeks. unfortunately the reality is ill win some and lose some and probably be +/- ~200 bucks give or take depending on how lucky or unlucky i am.

i had been back and forth about that PSU and the corsair multiple times actually, and its a good looking unit. i already bought https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C4KCWLTC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 this extension kit. would it work the the seasonic power supply? if it does - then i will 'call an audible' on the day of purchase and get whichever one is cheaper at the time. the corsair was like 115$ just a few days ago
The extension kits will work with any PSU since they attach at the component end of the cables.
 
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Im not sure this is a helpful suggestion - and im not sure that machine is limited by the CPU with a 4060ti.
I guess your mind is not processing how I'm trying to help you so here goes my reasoning:

A lot of the parts you are buying are near the end of their shelf life and soon to be superseded by better/faster products, some in a matter of a few months!

Unless you know a neat little trick to grow money out of thin air, I would buy that Newegg PC, try to have fun with it as much as possible and when better CPU/GPU/RAM become available, I upgrade the components without throwing away the PC. That's a better use of money, in my opinion.

7800X3D will look pale compared to the awesome 9800X3D.
DDR5-6000 will look stupid compared to DDR5-8000 EXPO RAM kits.
That 4080? What if the 5070 with 16GB makes you hate it, especially if Nvidia (and they most certainly will) introduce new DLSS functionality ONLY compatible with 5000 series?

At this point in time, you are throwing loads of cash on a PC whose parts will start feeling old pretty quickly, especially if you read reviews regularly.
 
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If my goal is to build a pc as a placeholder until I can swap every component of it out for the newer parts in the next months-year, then I would select parts for that purpose.

My goal is to build a top quality machine to play games two weeks from now.

Sure, I risk having feelings about wanting the next newest more powerful thing when it releases, and maybe that eventually requires a new motherboard, gpu, cpu, ram, whatever. Then I’ll upgrade when it feels like it won’t play what I want anymore. New gpu will need new PSU. What will I be saving? The case and the fans?

Also that pc doesn’t mention it specifically so I can’t confirm but likely using a b650 chipset not the x670e.
Will it even be able to take the new cpu? The new ram? The new gpu on pcie5? New ssd?

Or is it a stopgap to then create an entire new build for 3000+$ with the new toys?
 

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I guess your mind is not processing how I'm trying to help you so here goes my reasoning:

A lot of the parts you are buying are near the end of their shelf life and soon to be superseded by better/faster products, some in a matter of a few months!

Unless you know a neat little trick to grow money out of thin air, I would buy that Newegg PC, try to have fun with it as much as possible and when better CPU/GPU/RAM become available, I upgrade the components without throwing away the PC. That's a better use of money, in my opinion.

7800X3D will look pale compared to the awesome 9800X3D.
DDR5-6000 will look stupid compared to DDR5-8000 EXPO RAM kits.
That 4080? What if the 5070 with 16GB makes you hate it, especially if Nvidia (and they most certainly will) introduce new DLSS functionality ONLY compatible with 5000 series?

At this point in time, you are throwing loads of cash on a PC whose parts will start feeling old pretty quickly, especially if you read reviews regularly.
There's always something new right around the corner. If you buy things based on that mentality you would never buy anything.
 

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The extension kits will work with any PSU since they attach at the component end of the cables.
Can you explain to me whether this kit is "obsolete?" It has 12VHPWR cabling, but the standard is now 12V-2X6 ?

I know it'll still work, but I'd want the safer, updated cable. Esp. when it's some no-name brand from China?


I guess your mind is not processing how I'm trying to help you so here goes my reasoning:

A lot of the parts you are buying are near the end of their shelf life and soon to be superseded by better/faster products, some in a matter of a few months!

Unless you know a neat little trick to grow money out of thin air, I would buy that Newegg PC, try to have fun with it as much as possible and when better CPU/GPU/RAM become available, I upgrade the components without throwing away the PC. That's a better use of money, in my opinion.

7800X3D will look pale compared to the awesome 9800X3D.
DDR5-6000 will look stupid compared to DDR5-8000 EXPO RAM kits.
That 4080? What if the 5070 with 16GB makes you hate it, especially if Nvidia (and they most certainly will) introduce new DLSS functionality ONLY compatible with 5000 series?

At this point in time, you are throwing loads of cash on a PC whose parts will start feeling old pretty quickly, especially if you read reviews regularly.
Come on, this is always the case. If I can wait until next year, there will always be something better. OP is already ordering components with specific use cases in mind, so saving money on a cheaper pre-built isn't meeting his stated needs. You of all people know a 4060 Ti is a terrible idea anyway.

Just because Ryzen 9000 ships in 10 days doesn't make Ryzen 7800X3D obsolete.

The good news with AM5 is he will have some socket upgradability in 3 years; and he can also consider a new graphics card in 4-5 years. If he can afford this purchase, then he's gonna be happy in 2 weeks.
 

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Can you explain to me whether this kit is "obsolete?" It has 12VHPWR cabling, but the standard is now 12V-2X6 ?

I know it'll still work, but I'd want the safer, updated cable. Esp. when it's some no-name brand from China?
That may be the standard going forward, but neither the PSU nor the GPU that the OP is purchasing has the 12V-2x6. So in the future it is possible that different extensions may have to be purchased if a new component is purchased. You would only have to replace that cable though. The 24 pin and 8 pin cables would not need replacing.
 
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If he gets a Ryzen 9800X3D in November, he will have about 15 months to enjoy his brand new frickin' fast CPU because nothing else that will be faster will be available.

If he gets a 7800X3D, he either sells it at a loss to upgrade to 9800X3D later or he "suffers" with the lastgen CPU, pretending to stick to his decision to "not care" whatever else comes after he buys it.

In the latter case, he's just psychologically manipulating himself.
 
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Can you explain to me whether this kit is "obsolete?" It has 12VHPWR cabling, but the standard is now 12V-2X6 ?

I know it'll still work, but I'd want the safer, updated cable. Esp. when it's some no-name brand from China?



Come on, this is always the case. If I can wait until next year, there will always be something better. OP is already ordering components with specific use cases in mind, so saving money on a cheaper pre-built isn't meeting his stated needs. You of all people know a 4060 Ti is a terrible idea anyway.

Just because Ryzen 9000 ships in 10 days doesn't make Ryzen 7800X3D obsolete.

The good news with AM5 is he will have some socket upgradability in 3 years; and he can also consider a new graphics card in 4-5 years. If he can afford this purchase, then he's gonna be happy in 2 weeks.

That may be the standard going forward, but neither the PSU nor the GPU that the OP is purchasing has the 12V-2x6. So in the future it is possible that different extensions may have to be purchased if a new component is purchased. You would only have to replace that cable though. The 24 pin and 8 pin cables would not need replacing.

Okay so based on this discussion do I need to replace the extension cables now or these will be okay?
 

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If he gets a Ryzen 9800X3D in November, he will have about 15 months to enjoy his brand new frickin' fast CPU because nothing else that will be faster will be available.

If he gets a 7800X3D, he either sells it at a loss to upgrade to 9800X3D later or he "suffers" with the lastgen CPU, pretending to stick to his decision to "not care" whatever else comes after he buys it.

In the latter case, he's just psychologically manipulating himself.
Or, and hear me out on this one, he could enjoy his frickin fast 7800X3D. Did you sell your 12700 when the 13700 came out?

Based on the AM5 leaks and AMD's own presentation none of the new CPUs are going to be faster than the 7800X3D in gaming. So he would have the second fastest CPU when the 9800X3D comes out. Not to mention, AMD has never said when the release date is of this CPU will be.
 
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Did you sell your 12700 when the 13700 came out?
Coz 13700K/14700K even the 14900KS is a dud. Didn't seem to make sense. Looking forward to Bartlett Lake.

If I had gotten a 7800X3D about a year ago, I probably wouldn't feel the need to upgrade to the 9800X3D but I WOULD feel bad if after getting the 7800X3D, four or five months later the 9800X3D pops out onto the scene and I would feel like a total jackass for not waiting for it or pulling the trigger early.

My most expensive laptop purchase in my entire life was a Haswell ASUS with Geforce 750M. Six months later, that same model with an upgraded Geforce 850M appeared for $25 less than what I paid for mine! It wouldn't have stung me that hard if the 850M weren't TWICE the performance of the 750M. Never spent that much on a laptop again!
 

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Coz 13700K/14700K even the 14900KS is a dud. Didn't seem to make sense. Looking forward to Bartlett Lake.

If I had gotten a 7800X3D about a year ago, I probably wouldn't feel the need to upgrade to the 9800X3D but I WOULD feel bad if after getting the 7800X3D, four or five months later the 9800X3D pops out onto the scene and I would feel like a total jackass for not waiting for it or pulling the trigger early.

My most expensive laptop purchase in my entire life was a Haswell ASUS with Geforce 750M. Six months later, that same model with an upgraded Geforce 850M appeared for $25 less than what I paid for mine! It wouldn't have stung me that hard if the 850M weren't TWICE the performance of the 750M. Never spent that much on a laptop again!
Feel like a jackass all you want. I bought a 7700 just a month before the 7800x3d came out and I have no regrets. There's just not enough of a performance gap to matter. Besides the op has several years of potential upgrades since AMD is going to support AM5 through 2027 now.
 
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Feel like a jackass all you want. I bought a 7700 just a month before the 7800x3d came out and I have no regrets. There's just not enough of a performance gap to matter. Besides the op has several years of potential upgrades since AMD is going to support AM5 through 2027 now.
this is basically how i feel. the parts have started to arrive
 

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Based on today's reviews of the 9600X and 9700X it may be a good thing you didn't wait for the 9800X3D. The new CPUs show very little performance gains over last gen, especially for gaming. If the 9800X3D has the same issues the 7800X3D was the way to go!
I guess your mind is not processing how I'm trying to help you so here goes my reasoning:

A lot of the parts you are buying are near the end of their shelf life and soon to be superseded by better/faster products, some in a matter of a few months!

Unless you know a neat little trick to grow money out of thin air, I would buy that Newegg PC, try to have fun with it as much as possible and when better CPU/GPU/RAM become available, I upgrade the components without throwing away the PC. That's a better use of money, in my opinion.

7800X3D will look pale compared to the awesome 9800X3D.
DDR5-6000 will look stupid compared to DDR5-8000 EXPO RAM kits.
That 4080? What if the 5070 with 16GB makes you hate it, especially if Nvidia (and they most certainly will) introduce new DLSS functionality ONLY compatible with 5000 series?

At this point in time, you are throwing loads of cash on a PC whose parts will start feeling old pretty quickly, especially if you read reviews regularly.
Igor, still think the OP should have waited for 9800X3D?
 
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Well I will let you guys know soon - the parts have almost all arrived, pending the CPU, SSD, and RAM.

I am traveling and also moving so timing the orders so that parts arent sitting in mail rooms forever or getting lost has been challenging lol.

Targeting a build date around weekend of the 17th and the following week!

need to buy a desk first anyway
 

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Six months later, that same model with an upgraded Geforce 850M appeared for $25 less than what I paid for mine! It wouldn't have stung me that hard if the 850M weren't TWICE the performance
This is Moore's law in action. Unfortunately it isn't a smooth curve. You get no gain for a while and then a jump.

Your point is that we are close to the next jump.

9xxx seems to have the biggest gains in efficiency not raw power which is a bigger deal in mobile than the gaming laptop space.

Time will tell if the 9800x3d would have been worth the wait.
 
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Hi All - so build is in progress!!! running into a question-

the seasonic power supply i have is the focus GX 1000, and I have this cable extension kit - it has a 3 PCIe to 12VHPWR - but I need a 12VHPWR to 12VHPWR extension. Im not sure many extension kits exist, but this kit seems to just be a direct cable compatible with my PSU. Would the one I linked to below work? I know cablemod had a recall of their adapters, but my understanding is their cables are not affected by this. Thank you!


12VHPWR extension kit
 
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